From: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org (mad-mission-digest) To: mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Subject: mad-mission-digest V2 #171 Reply-To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sender: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * If you wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * mad-mission-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Patty's tour dates, go to: * http://www.spectra.net/~ducksoup/pattyg/patttour.htm * OR * go to http://www.amrecords.com/road/index.html * and fill in the blanks :) * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V2 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. mad-mission-digest Friday, June 19 1998 Volume 02 : Number 171 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: MM: Discoveries [JohnRN23@aol.com] RE: Re[2]: MM: Re: give her some space -Reply -Reply -Reply [Mark Cicero ] MM: Discoveries -Reply [Mark Cicero ] [none] [mgillis@meditech.com] [none] ["Mike Gorecki" ] [none] [mgillis@meditech.com] MM: Internet stuff [Elaine Bean ] MM: RE: Discoveries [Jonathan Cooper ] [none] ["Mike Gorecki" ] Fwd: Re: MM: is she listening? -Reply [NGaccount@webtv.net] MM: Discoveries-Reply [JessiDenis@aol.com] MM: RE: Discoveries [Elaine Bean ] MM: Patty on KGSR 6/23 [hkoehler@admin.austin.isd.tenet.edu (Holly Burton] MM: Discoveries Cont'd [Amy_Emerman@time-inc.com] MM: Re: commercial music [Mooodeee@aol.com] Re: MM: Discoveries-Reply [Mooodeee@aol.com] Re: MM: Discoveries ["Allan M. Ayres" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 01:54:12 EDT From: JohnRN23@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: Discoveries Hi- I love doing this kind of thing. I am an "opening acts" fan, so I saw Peter Stuart open for Tori Amos (who I love) When Stuart came back to Toledo with his band DOG'S EYE VIEW, they were not as good as just Peter solo. (one reason I am wary of the band thing) Anyhoo, Patty was then opening for "him". I loved Patty not only because of her wonderful songs, but more simply because she bought a friend of mine (who was a huge fan at the time) a beer when she was done singing, just for telling her he was such a huge fan. I have loved her connection to her fans ever since. :-) John ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 07:41:39 -0500 From: Mark Cicero Subject: RE: Re[2]: MM: Re: give her some space -Reply -Reply -Reply Robert writes:" I've got enough other things moving me in that direction. How about giving me a push toward "contentedness" next time. ;) Mark Responds: Robert, I'll try to oblige. I agree with you on your points regarding the invasion of privacy. When I speak about a "public figure" and the scrutiny that goes with the territory, I mean that their public life (that which they choose to make public, is fair game. I, like you, draw the line at taking pictures through a bathroom window. So on this we agree. I believe what started this thread was someones comments regarding Patty's boyfriend. Since she has chosen to frequent public places with him, I didn't think it was out of line to comment on it. Regards, Mark Nashville,TN ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 08:28:45 -0500 From: Mark Cicero Subject: MM: Discoveries -Reply I discovered Patty's LWG - CD in Tower Records at one of their listening stations. They were selling the CD for $8.99. I thought, "She's looks pretty cute, lets see what she sounds like". I put the headphones on and was immediately blown away by the first cut, "Moses". I knew after the first cut that I was going to buy the CD so I thought I'd just listen to the next cut. Well I couldn't bring myself to take the headphones off and ended up listen to the whole CD, right there in the store. My only disappointment was that there weren't anymore songs on it. I even asked the clerk if she had any other CD's out only to find out that this was her debut release. BTW I also bought the tape, so I could listen to it on the way home. There are very few artists out there where my experience has been "love at first listen". More often than not, they have to grow on me. Patty, Paula Cole & Julia Fordham are part of a select few that have just blown me away on my first listen. A prerequisit for me is that they actually have to have a good, strong, and expressive voice that can carry a range of emotions. Patty has it! Regards, Mark Nashville,TN ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 09:50:29 -0500 From: mgillis@meditech.com Subject: [none] Mike wrote: I can't imagine the horror of what my life would be like if say a large auto company used a song like oh say Bob Seegers Like a Rock....Why life would be over. Art for commercial gain...not here in the USA......For now I have yet to hear any Patty Griffin song that might sell merchandise....but so what if it did.......for me it would be just another chance to hear her in another venue. But let's wait and see...maybe no marketing exec. will drool over poor man's house to sell siding. Ooh, do I detect a little sarcasm there, Mike? Have I touched a nerve? I won't ask what you do for a living. I've posted 3 opinions on this list, and each response I have received has missed my point. I may not be a great writer, but there is a communication problem here, people. OK, OK, time's short. But take a minute to read before you submit your knee-jerk reactions. Mike, the point is: What if the song or songs was CONCEIVED as a commercial. I see this happening. P.S. I'll be leaving this list soon after the record comes out. This is my first list, and probably my last. The PG info I gained notwithstanding, I find Internet communication a strange phenomenon. Nobody's really listening, but a lot of people are pontificating. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 10:36:30 -0700 From: "Mike Gorecki" Subject: [none] Back to Patty. I listened to Living with Ghosts again last night. What a wonderful piece of music. So simple in presentation yet very complex in structure and content. I wonder if any other offering will affect me as much. It is so easy to get lost in the poetry and content. It really is a refreshing and delightful mixture of heart-felt emotional gifts delivered in a very appealing package. I know this has all been said before, but it has been a while since I listened to Living with Ghosts and I wondered how a little passing of time and some new music might change my first impressions. It is still a wonderful emotional retreat... Mike Mike goreckime@cbpu.com Ps. for mgillis...sorry I ticked you off about the commercial use of music...I fell somewhat the same way you do..but you know art seems to always suffer in a free enterprise system....but alas it suffers everywhere. by the way I am a Commercial Photographer. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 10:41:56 -0500 From: mgillis@meditech.com Subject: [none] Thanks, Mike. My apologies for venting. But I've been fuming here for quite some time, and since I am leaving the list, I just HAD to leave with "my finger in the air", you know? Did I say pontificate? Stupid is as stupid does. Mike wrote: Ps. for mgillis...sorry I ticked you off about the commercial use of music...I fell somewhat the same way you do..but you know art seems to always suffer in a free enterprise system....but alas it suffers everywhere. by the way I am a Commercial Photographer. Now playing: XTC - Oranges and Lemons. Goodbye, cruel list! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 10:51:41 -0700 From: Elaine Bean Subject: MM: Internet stuff mgillis@meditech.com wrote: > > P.S. I'll be leaving this list soon after the record comes out. This is my first list, and probably my last. . . . I find Internet communication a strange phenomenon. - ----------------------------- Hey Matt, Don't leave - just don't take this stuff so seriously - it's not that important. So what if people have differences of opinion? You don't have to agree, or even listen to them. Internet Communication is indeed a lot different from "face to face" human interaction, and it's not intended to take the place of that crucial interaction - so just don't take it so seriously. I suspect that for a lot of people this is just a trivial but plesant diversion - it is for me anyway. The moment that the Internet takes priority over "real life" issues or interferes in any way with my life will be the day I get rid of my computer. I mean, who is in charge? You or the internet? I suspect that you probably don't want to bother with it, which is why you're leaving, but consider not taking this stuff seriously and stick around - enjoy it for what it is - the chance to meet some great people and gain exposure to different views, news, etc. By letting it get to you you are giving it power over you - don't let it have so much power. It's only an internet list. Ultimately though, you make your own decisions as to what you want to do, but . . . Elaine ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 08:00:35 -0700 From: Jonathan Cooper Subject: MM: RE: Discoveries In the Spring of '93 I shuffled into an auditorium with a bunch of other students and faculty members at Hamilton College. We were there to see Shawn Colvin, whom we all adored for her folk heart and soul. I don't even think we knew if she would have an opening act, but sure enough, who walked onto the stage first but a tall redhead by the name of Patty Griffin. Her performance was an opening act set of 6 or 7 songs that included my (soon to be) favorites, "Mary" and "Sweet Lorraine." She killed us with her powerful lyrics, graced us with her humble and sweet style, and amazed us with a soul that comes second to none. Shawn Colvin never came back to Hamilton in the time I was there; Patty came back twice more. In '94 I saw her in a small coffee shop performance (again at Hamilton) in front of 30 people or so. I remember her breaking a guitar string. She was left to her own devices as we all watched her restring it; speaking to us in that beautiful, soft voice, yet clearly uncomfortable without the music to dance around with her. I've carried her demo tape around with me for 5 years now. Most of those songs appeared on Living with Ghosts. Quite frankly I cannot wait for the new one. I don't care what anyone says. I will buy her albums until she stops making them. And I hope I never see that day. ******************************************** > Anyway, would be interested in hearing how other people first discovered > Patty.... > > Terry > ************************************* > I heard about Patty's phenomenal debut album on the Jackson Browne list > (everyman) two years ago. LWG leaves me speachless to this day. When I > saw Patty open for Shawn and Freedy, her performance blew me away but it > was of course way too short. I'm hoping that her and her band will appear > at my local concert hall again, Ventura Theatre. > > Darrel > (In FM radio wasteland) > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 11:53:59 -0700 From: "Mike Gorecki" Subject: [none] Jonathan...What a nice account of seeing Shawn and Patty...I will write about seeing her some other day when this stupid business diesn't get in the way...again..very nice ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 11:47:38 -0400 From: NGaccount@webtv.net Subject: Fwd: Re: MM: is she listening? -Reply - --WebTV-Mail-1052409792-454 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT - --WebTV-Mail-1052409792-454 Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT From: NGaccount@webtv.net Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 11:46:29 -0400 To: MC1@wallerlaw.com (Mark Cicero) Subject: Re: MM: is she listening? -Reply Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) I saw, and spoke with, Patty a few months ago. She says that she is not on the net. Her mother, however, is. She keeps Patty (somewhat) informed about what is happening. - --WebTV-Mail-1052409792-454-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 15:19:14 EDT From: JessiDenis@aol.com Subject: MM: Discoveries-Reply I first heard Patty on 107.1 in Austin 2 years ago...I heard the last few verses of "Let him fly". I drove home and immediately called the station asking who she was. They told me she would be singing at a free concert that weekend...what luck! I bought the cd promptly. I got there early and took my seat in the front row. I saw a red headed woman walking around in a leather jacket with a guitar on her back....and knew that was her. Then she got on stage to do a sound check....the sound check blew me away! She didn't even sing words....just sounds like hmmmm, ooooooo & ahhhhh....but I was hooked from that minute. My skin stayed on fire the whole night... I walked over to her afterward and she happily gave an autograph...she even seemed stunned that she was so well received. (standing screaming ovation) The rest is history....:-) Patty will always be my number #1. Peace...Jess PS...anyone know where I can get a copy of flaming red on the day it's released in Ann Arbor, MI? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 15:35:30 -0700 From: Elaine Bean Subject: MM: RE: Discoveries I think I'm losing it - I can't remember if I already responded to this thread or not - but here it is for the 1st or 2nd time :) First heard Patty on WBOS in Boston. They played "Every Little Bit" for a while - She blew me away. They announced who she was and the name of her CD, which I bought immediately after hearing her. They then got her to appear at the "Earth Day" concert in April (not this past April, but in 1997), which I unfortunately missed, but have a copy of thanks to some kind trader on the list. Elaine ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 15:29:22 -0500 From: hkoehler@admin.austin.isd.tenet.edu (Holly Burton Koehler) Subject: MM: Patty on KGSR 6/23 Hey everybody, I just heard on 107.1 in Austin that Patty will be celebrating the release of Flaming Read by dropping by the KGSR studio on 6/23 at 3:30. The station will also be playing the entire album at 11:00 p.m. on 6/22! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 16:30:20 -0400 From: Amy_Emerman@time-inc.com Subject: MM: Discoveries Cont'd - --------------- cc:Mail Forwarded --------------- From: Amy Emerman AT NYPBTWB1 Date: 06/19/98 04:29 PM To: abb@erols.com AT INTERNET Cc: Subject: Discoveries Cont'd I was introduced to Patty by my friend Abby, who first heard "Forgiveness" on a radio station in New York and immediately called up the station after hearing Patty's gorgeus voice and beautiful song. Later, she bought the CD and raved about...it wasn't for another year until I first heard Patty, when this friend invited me to the concert at the Fez, and I went. And I am juet delighted that I have her CD, and that she's a part of my musical repertoire...as a singer myself, she definitely has an impact on my singing style...she's a little livelier believe it or not then the usual folk stuff I listen to...She's got a certain groove...and I'm so happy to have discovered her! Cheers and good listening, Amy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 18:09:14 EDT From: Mooodeee@aol.com Subject: MM: Re: commercial music In a message dated 6/19/98 7:53:09 AM CST, mgillis@meditech.com writes: << What if the song or songs was CONCEIVED as a commercial. I see this happening.>> LOL!! You know, I think that stupid Alan Jackson song "Mercury" is a perfect example of that. hehehe Mimi Alidor Austin, TX ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 18:19:29 EDT From: Mooodeee@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: Discoveries-Reply In a message dated 6/19/98 1:22:54 PM CST, JessiDenis@aol.com writes: << I first heard Patty on 107.1 in Austin 2 years ago...I heard the last few verses of "Let him fly". I drove home and immediately called the station asking who she was. They told me she would be singing at a free concert that weekend...what luck! I bought the cd promptly. >> Hey Jess, Was that the free show at the Waterloo Brewing Company's annual birthday bash thingie outdoor concert? I think I was sitting right behind you, second row, a few seats stage left! hehehe. (are you the same Jess whom I met with her husband after one of the shows this past March at the Cactus Cafe? Small world;-) Mimi Alidor Austin, TX ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 20:17:42 -0700 From: "Allan M. Ayres" Subject: Re: MM: Discoveries There was a long incubation period in my getting clued in to Patty. I first heard Mad Mission when it was included on the summer '96 issue of the now-defunct Leak CD*Magazine, and, you know, that particular song didn't do a whole lot for me at the time. Don't get me wrong, I like the tune now, but I like it in the context of the record; on its own, it didn't serve as a very good sample of Living w/ Ghosts as a whole. In combination with the CD liner picture, which was plastered across the front of the magazine, the song made me think, OK, a cute folksinger with a cute song, and I wasn't compelled to go out and buy the CD. So a year and a half later, I kept coming across a big stack of used copies of Living w/ Ghosts in Amoeba Music, and one day I decided it was worth eight bucks to give a listen to someone I had liked but not been dazzled by initially. And after I popped the CD into the player and heard Let Him Fly and then Every Little Bit, I *was* dazzled. :-) I think if the Leak people had chosen any other tune from Living w/ Ghosts, I would've rushed out and bought the record in '96 ...just like I did with Peter Mulvey, another amazing singer/songwriter/guitarist whom I first encountered on a Leak magazine disc. I should add that that 'big stack of used copies' over at Amoeba has dwindled to about two as of this afternoon... I think word may be getting out. :-) - --Allan now playing: That's Fat, by JeepJazz Project, from the High Art soundtrack, on infinite repeat :-) ~~~~~~~~ Allan M. Ayres emdash@creative.net http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~ayres ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V2 #171 *********************************