From: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org (mad-mission-digest) To: mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Subject: mad-mission-digest V2 #160 Reply-To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sender: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * If you wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * mad-mission-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Patty's tour dates, go to: * http://www.spectra.net/~ducksoup/pattyg/patttour.htm * OR * go to http://www.amrecords.com/road/index.html * and fill in the blanks :) * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V2 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. mad-mission-digest Saturday, June 13 1998 Volume 02 : Number 160 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: MM: Patty's Band Personel & new MM'er -Reply [Mark Cicero ] Re: MM: Niagra, Niagra soundtrack [JohnRN23@aol.com] Re: MM: Niagra, Niagra soundtrack -Reply [Mark Cicero ] Re: MM: Niagra, Niagra soundtrack [Amy_Emerman@time-inc.com] MM: Real Audio [JohnRN23@aol.com] MM: help ["Mike Gorecki" ] Re: MM: Niagra, Niagra soundtrack [Robin Hall ] Re: MM: help [Heidi ] MM: One Big Love on NYC 102.7 [CornflkGl@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 08:17:54 -0500 From: Mark Cicero Subject: Re: MM: Patty's Band Personel & new MM'er -Reply Greg, Is it possible that you are rushing to judgement??? I can think of many CD's that I disliked (for a number of reasons) when I first heard them; for example Alanis Morrisette, Joan Osborn, Tori Amos. But, in time, after numerous listens the genious of each artist was able to penitrate whatever mental filters I happen to be listening through at the time. Give it time and a few more listens before rushing to judgment. Also, welcome to the list. Regards, Mark Nashville, TN >>> 06/11/98 08:47pm >>> Hi all, I'm a new lister to MM. I've been a huge Patty fan since I heard of Lw/G from the Dar Williams and Nanci Griffith lists. I've been sooo jacked about Flaming Red coming out that I've been combing used CD stores for the FR advance CD. I finally found one & I really am sorry to say that I was VERY dissapointed. I'd heard OBL on the radio, & could'nt get it out of my head & thought the rest of the CD would be equally as great or better, but it was not to be. While there a few good things on it, overall it sounds to me like A&M won in the fight to put out a radio friendly piece of product. This sounds way over produced, especially considering the production style of Lw/G. Now I like a good (even overly) produced record, but this was really dissapointing to me. I even liked the production on Dar's TEOS when so many people thought it was too much. The guitars & drums were SO out front of Patty that it sounded just like any other thing one might hear when scanning the radio dial. It turned what I'm sure are great Patty songs into ordinary pop product. I'm still a big Patty fan, but I think I'll just have to wait for her 3rd release when she'll undoubtedly find a little balance and more of her own voice production wise. I'm really sorry to have to introduce myself & throw so much cold water. I can't tell you how much I was looking forward to Flaming Red. I still love her stuff & will go see her anytime ... I think the lead guitar is Doug Lancio, lead guitarist from the (now on hiatus) Blue Moon Orchestra, Nanci Griffith's knockout band. Greg St. Martin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 13:52:44 -0500 From: Mark Cicero Subject: MM: Niagra, Niagra soundtrack Does anybody on the list know if the tracks from "Niagra, Niagra" are also on "Flaming Red"??? Regards. Mark Nashville, TN ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 15:13:11 EDT From: JohnRN23@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: Niagra, Niagra soundtrack I think that "Regarding Mary" is, but I don't know, because I haven't found any of those advanced CDs. I live in Toledo...the closest "Patty" station is 93.9 in Detroit and I've only heard the 2nd half of OBL once on there, though they do play her version of Crazy occasionally. Missing out in Toledo, John ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 14:32:38 -0500 From: Mark Cicero Subject: Re: MM: Niagra, Niagra soundtrack -Reply So I guess I've got to go out and buy "Niagra, Niagra". Regards, Mark >>> Robin Hall 06/12/98 03:23pm >>> "Regarding Mary" is not on Flaming Red. A song called "Mary" is, but it's not the same. (They're both great.) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 15:50:39 -0400 From: Amy_Emerman@time-inc.com Subject: Re: MM: Niagra, Niagra soundtrack - --------------- cc:Mail Forwarded --------------- From: JohnRN23@aol.com AT TIME_INC Date: 06/12/98 03:13 PM To: MC1@wallerlaw.com AT TIME_INCmad-mission@smoe.org AT TIME_INC Cc: Subject: Re: MM: Niagra, Niagra soundtrack My understanding is that none of the Patty tracks on Niagra Niagra are on Flaming Red. There is a different and very beautiful song called "Mary" about her grandmother that I have heard only in concert and can't wait to hear on the album, and "You Are Not Alone" is on Living With Ghosts, and is also a great song. Amy ______________________________ Forward Header _____________________________ _____ Subject: Re: MM: Niagra, Niagra soundtrack Author: JohnRN23@aol.com at TIME_INC Date: 6/12/98 3:13 PM I think that "Regarding Mary" is, but I don't know, because I haven't found any of those advanced CDs. I live in Toledo...the closest "Patty" station is 93.9 in Detroit and I've only heard the 2nd half of OBL once on there, though they do play her version of Crazy occasionally. Missing out in Toledo, John ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 16:10:08 EDT From: JohnRN23@aol.com Subject: MM: Real Audio Okay, I don't want to ruffle feathers here, but I heard some of FR on real audio, and it sounds really "pop". I'm not saying it won't sink in, but I have seen her play songs like Tony and Flaming Red only acoustically so far, and the words have so much more meaning (at least to me) when it is just her and us, and not bang bang bang from a drummer or several other instruments. To me it's sort of like taking a song like Silent All These Years by Tori Amos, and having the Bangles cover it. Ah well...I'm having these illustrious dreams of A&M giving Patty the freedom to do an acoustic version of FR. Que sera sera. :-) John ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 11:18:38 -0700 From: "Mike Gorecki" Subject: MM: help Help....I can't stop listening to Mary..........I need to hear the rest of Flaming Red...but I can't stop myself from rewinding to that song....does anyone have an answer? Mike goreckime@cbpu.com ------------------------------ Date: 12 Jun 98 12:23:18 -0800 From: Robin Hall Subject: Re: MM: Niagra, Niagra soundtrack "Regarding Mary" is not on Flaming Red. A song called "Mary" is, but it's not the same. (They're both great.) JohnRN23 wrote: >I think that "Regarding Mary" is, but I don't know, because I haven't found >any of those advanced CDs. I live in Toledo...the closest "Patty" station is >93.9 in Detroit and I've only heard the 2nd half of OBL once on there, though >they do play her version of Crazy occasionally. >Missing out in Toledo, >John > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 15:23:54 -0700 From: Heidi Subject: Re: MM: help I am having the same problem! Except you can lump Peter Pan into that category. I can't stop listening to those songs! It's funny that you mentioned that because yesterday while driving in my car, I finally made myself turn that darn tape over and at least listen to some of the other side. I eventually gave in though and turned it over again....... Heidi Mike Gorecki wrote: > > Help....I can't stop listening to Mary..........I need to hear the rest of > Flaming Red...but I can't stop myself from rewinding to that song....does > anyone have an answer? > > Mike > > goreckime@cbpu.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 23:50:55 EDT From: CornflkGl@aol.com Subject: MM: One Big Love on NYC 102.7 I was driving along in New York tonight ( well actually my boyfriend Tom was driving, but whatever ) and I was flipping around radio stations ( ok, so HE was flipping radio stations ) when I heard Patty ! I flipped out, grabbed his arm, and yelled, " THAT'S PATTY GRIFFIN !" Heh. Ok, so. It was around 11:00, and apparently 102.7 is a rock station ( "where rock lives" ). It was kind of funny, because after the song the announcer said "That was Patty Griffin from her album Flaming Red- and yes, she sure is ! She's from Old Town, Maine, which of course would explain all the references to the seashore." Oh well :). It was almost scary to hear it on the radio, but I'm proud of her :) Rachel :D ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V2 #160 *********************************