From: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org (mad-mission-digest) To: mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Subject: mad-mission-digest V2 #96 Reply-To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sender: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * If you wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * mad-mission-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Patty's tour dates, go to: * http://www.spectra.net/~ducksoup/pattyg/patttour.htm * OR * go to http://www.amrecords.com/road/index.html * and fill in the blanks :) * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V2 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. mad-mission-digest Tuesday, April 14 1998 Volume 02 : Number 096 Today's Subjects: ----------------- MM: Cain and IWTB lyrics [Elaine Bean ] MM: Lisa Sanders and Joy Eden Harrison 4/26 LRT ["Larry S. Greenfield" ] MM: Flaming Red [Jane A Rothchild ] MM: Flaming Red -Reply [Mark Cicero ] MM: rarities [Mystchif1 ] Re: MM: Flaming Red [ZIAD_TOUBASSY@bm.com] Re: MM: Flaming Red [petersns@whidbey.com (Petersons family)] MM: Flaming Red -Reply [Mark Cicero ] MM: ATTN: LIVING ROOM CONCERT, MAY 2, 1998 [kartalst@HUGSE1.HARVARD.EDU] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 09:27:05 -0700 From: Elaine Bean Subject: MM: Cain and IWTB lyrics Hi, Two things; 1. Does anyone have the lyrics for "I Write The Book"? I couldn't find it on the lyric archives page, which BTW is great. Thanks Rachel. 2. Does anyone know the story behind "Cain"? I know it was written about 2 boys in Wisconsin, but that's all I know. Can anyone elaborate? Sorry for asking if this has been discussed before - if it has, I must have missed it. I'd appreciate any help. Thanks, Elaine ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 09:38:41 -0700 From: "Larry S. Greenfield" Subject: MM: Lisa Sanders and Joy Eden Harrison 4/26 LRT Helloooo Music Lovers! I'm delighted to announce the appearance of Lisa Sanders and Joy Eden Harrison at a Living Room Tour in Los Angeles, CA on Sunday, April 26, 1998. The show will take place at my house, and will start at 3 p.m. I hope to see all who can make it, as this promises to be a lot of fun. Suggested contribution for the performers will be 10 dollars per person attending. Please email me for location and directions if you are planning to attend. Seeya! -=-Larry-=- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 13:28:09 EDT From: KRAMER 076 Subject: MM: Flaming Red If anyone who has picked up a copy of Flaming Red would be willing to tape it for me drop me a line. THANX JIM ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 13:59:01 -0400 From: Jane A Rothchild Subject: MM: Flaming Red I don't know if this issue has come up before so please forgive me if I'm beating an already-dead horse. Over the last few days there have been a number of posts about obtaining used copies of "Flaming Red" from stores that may have obtained promo copies of it, and about obtaining tapes of the album. Since we all are on this list because we like Patty and her music, doesn't anyone have any qualms about the fact that both these methods prevent Patty from earning a dime from these copies of her new cd? Just wondering. - --Jane ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 13:12:11 -0500 From: Mark Cicero Subject: MM: Flaming Red -Reply Boy aren't we impatient! I am pretty much enjoying the wait. All that anticipation, speculation, longing, wanting, needing. Just imagine how you'll feel on June 22nd knowing that it's only one more day till you can get your hands on her (new cd). The day finially arrives. Money is no object. You're trembling as you open the plastic wrapper. You've made sure that you wouldn't be disturbed by those who don't understand or who even ridicule your relationship. There's a part of you that's really anxious, wondering if you'll be disappointed. You dim the lights......... you press the right buttons....... the music begins, your in heaven. Carried there by the voice of an angel. ********************* Be patient, good things come to those that wait. Regards, Mark (just have'n a little fun) Cicero Nashville, TN PS: If you get an advanced copy I want one too ;-) >>> KRAMER 076 04/14/98 12:28pm >>> If anyone who has picked up a copy of Flaming Red would be willing to tape it for me drop me a line. THANX JIM ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 15:12:29 EDT From: Mystchif1 Subject: MM: rarities Hey everyone! This is my first time posting even though I've been on the list a couple of months now. Just wanted to say hi to everyone and ask a little question. From what I gather there are a lot of unheard Patty songs. Has anyone ever made a compilation tape of these songs? I'm also interested in trading for her shows. I've got lots of Angelfood (Jewel) and tons of Ani Difranco. E- mail me if you're interested. :-) Thanks! Jen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 14:29:32 -0400 From: ZIAD_TOUBASSY@bm.com Subject: Re: MM: Flaming Red - --IMA.Boundary.167185298 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part My response to this, as with similar issues on other lists involving trading tapes of unreleased material, is that most of us (if not all) will buy the officially released CD when it comes out anyway. Promo copies tend not to contain the same liner notes (or any liner notes at all) and the covers, etc are normally not the final art...most die-hard fans appreciate these almost as much as the music and wouldn't want to do without. I think that many of us are anxious to hear the new album now but will still rush out on June 24th (is that the right date?) and pay our $12 to purchase Flaming Rdd -- this may be backwards logic, but I certainly think it's true. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: MM: Flaming Red Author: Jane A Rothchild at Internet Date: 4/14/98 1:59 PM I don't know if this issue has come up before so please forgive me if I'm beating an already-dead horse. Over the last few days there have been a number of posts about obtaining used copies of "Flaming Red" from stores that may have obtained promo copies of it, and about obtaining tapes of the album. Since we all are on this list because we like Patty and her music, doesn't anyone have any qualms about the fact that both these methods prevent Patty from earning a dime from these copies of her new cd? Just wondering. - --Jane - --IMA.Boundary.167185298 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="RFC822 message headers" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Content-Disposition: inline; filename="RFC822 message headers" Received: from yandr-bh.yr.com (206.33.89.129) by smtp1.yr.com with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange 2.12 Enterprise) id 00399F61; Tue, 14 Apr 98 14:19:13 - -0400 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by yandr-bh.yr.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) id OAA17693 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 14:19:09 -0400 Received: from cambridge-mail-router2.netops.gte.com by yandr-bh.yr.com via smap (3.2) id xma017452; Tue, 14 Apr 98 14:18:56 -0400 Received: from mermaid.shore.net (mermaid.shore.net [207.244.124.6]) by netops.gte.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA02566 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 14:18:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smoe.org [204.167.97.154] (root) by mermaid.shore.net with esmtp (Exim) id 0yPAGi-0005m5-00; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 14:17:16 -0400 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) with SMTP id OAA26913; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 14:03:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Tue, 14 Apr 1998 14:03:13 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) id NAA26824 for mad-mission-outgoing; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 13:59:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailhost.iconn.net (root@mailhost.iconn.net [207.171.128.7]) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-relay2) with ESMTP id NAA26815 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 13:59:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jarstar (hd-ts00-03.iconn.net [207.171.130.103]) by mailhost.iconn.net (8.8.8/19980309) with SMTP id NAA15556 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 13:56:56 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980414135901.007a0510@mailhost.iconn.net> X-Sender: jarstar@mailhost.iconn.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 13:59:01 -0400 To: mad-mission@smoe.org From: Jane A Rothchild Subject: MM: Flaming Red Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-mad-mission@smoe.org Precedence: bulk - --IMA.Boundary.167185298-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 12:45:43 -0700 (PDT) From: petersns@whidbey.com (Petersons family) Subject: Re: MM: Flaming Red I don't know about you all, but a lot of times I make a tape copy of an album from a friend's version or from the local library system. When I have the money, if it's still an album I really like, I'll buy it on CD anyway (much better sound quality than library tapes). So, yes, it does cut back some on how much I spend on music, but then, I know I'm putting my money into something that's worth it. And I definately think Patty is worth it. --Anna (of the Anna and Lindsey conglomerate (We've only been lurking here for a couple weeks, so most of you have no idea what the conglomerate is. Some (Greetings, BigHair) may already know. I think I'll leave it a mystery.) P.S.-- We are interested in advance copies, too. We have some Shawn Colvin bootlegs, if anyone wants to trade. >I don't know if this issue has come up before so please forgive me if I'm >beating an already-dead horse. > >Over the last few days there have been a number of posts about obtaining >used copies of "Flaming Red" from stores that may have obtained promo >copies of it, and about obtaining tapes of the album. Since we all are on >this list because we like Patty and her music, doesn't anyone have any >qualms about the fact that both these methods prevent Patty from earning a >dime from these copies of her new cd? > >Just wondering. > >--Jane ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 13:23:03 -0500 From: Mark Cicero Subject: MM: Flaming Red -Reply Jane, Even If I did come upon an advanced copy (tape) of "Flaming Red" I would still go out and buy the CD and the Tape (for my car). So far I've have purchased over 10 copies of the "Living With Ghosts" and have given them as gifts. A true fan, who respects the artist, can do more for that artist by spreading the music around. The only thing I am TOTALLY against (that I find unethical) is bootlegging for a profit. IMHO, the trading of tapes, I believe helps the artist in the long run. Let me give you another example. Very recently someone sent me a tape of "Dar Williams". I had heard of her but never really heard much of her stuff. I was so impressed with what I heard I went out and bought all the CD's I could find. As I said earlier, I believe that it is unethical to profit from the trading of tapes. This is how I feel on the subject and I don't/can't speak for anyone else. Take care, Mark Cicero Nashville, TN >>> Jane A Rothchild 04/14/98 12:59pm >>> I don't know if this issue has come up before so please forgive me if I'm beating an already-dead horse. Over the last few days there have been a number of posts about obtaining used copies of "Flaming Red" from stores that may have obtained promo copies of it, and about obtaining tapes of the album. Since we all are on this list because we like Patty and her music, doesn't anyone have any qualms about the fact that both these methods prevent Patty from earning a dime from these copies of her new cd? Just wondering. - --Jane ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 10:40:55 -0400 (EDT) From: kartalst@HUGSE1.HARVARD.EDU Subject: MM: ATTN: LIVING ROOM CONCERT, MAY 2, 1998 Hear ye, Hear ye!!!!! I posted about this a couple weeks ago, but... We all know the wonder of what brings us, especially these email list-communities, so close together. A big part of it is the music we share with each other, not only the main interest in the musician around whom the list is built, but the musicians we share with each other. It seems pretty amazing, to me, that within the past few years (MMers and ITWers, I say "past few years" since the Jewel list is a few years old...), we have turned each other on to The Rugburns, Steve Poltz, Gregory Page, Lisa Sanders, Mary Dolan, Elizabeth Hummel, Cindy Lee Berryhill, Joy Eden Harrison, Sarah Slean, Patty Griffin, Tara MacLean, Emm Gryner, Dayna Manning, The Devlins, Jann Arden, Chantal Kreviazuk, Ellis Paul, Jonatha Brooke, and the list continues into what seems like a musically blissful eternity. That's a lot of music to absorb in the short time that things have been "up and running" (thank you so much to the amazing people like Justin, Mike Connel, and Jeff Wasilko who own and manage these lists...), and it seems like, in general, there is so much music and so little time to experience it all. But, about a year ago, something happened which changed all that. Who knew that two musicians stranded in Boston who said "hey let's play for some people since we can't play at our scheduled and now cancelled concert" would start something so amazing. Who knew that these two omen, Cindy Lee Berryhill and Elizabeth Hummel, through the amazing hospitality of The Snyder Family, would stir such an uproar and such an excitement that whole living room tours have been organized and produced all over this country. The funny thing about it all, well, is that it all makes sense. In a time when musicians have such fierce competition, it makes sense to bring the music to the people. It makes sense to share, so openly, your art with a bunch of people who care about music so much that they turn each other on to new artists (seemingly) every single day. These people are the fans the musicians want...the ones who care, the ones who will spread the word, the ones who are loyal, the ones who undertand the ultimate importance of doing what you *love* and who want to listen to a musician not because he or she is on the stage cuz he or she happened to be lucky enough to stuff the venue so much that he/she is allowed to play there, but because this musician is doing what is so important that it makes the person animated...and alive. These are the fans the musicians want. This is the honesty that the fans seek in the musicians, the stuff that gives a particular musician an edge over the rest of the bunch that is trying to "make it big." This is the tradition which is continuing and continuing. This is what I share with you. On May 2, just one week after Chris Snyder's Living Room concert, I am holding one in my own beautiful comfortable living room. The tradition continues. The energy created by the tradition has filled my air, and all I can say...wel...is that I love it! The tradition has a twist, though. This past year, the "pioneers" of the Living Room Concert tradition have been those many beloved San Diego artists. Now, I want to give you all a taste of East Coast music. The future of musical folklore is not only of San Diego, it's of the whole world! I feel very honoured. Two amazing women and incredible musicians, Jody Blackwell of the Boston Scene and Jenny Bruce of the New York scene, will be in my house, performing for all of you. Their voices are amazing, and their music is so touching...it's like you listen to them and some sort of a vocal fairy dust is sprinkled all over your soul. Please, come check it out! I am still trying to see if a couple more musicians can come so I can share with you some of the music I love so much. =) Well, this has been a lot to read, so here is the low-down... What: Living Room Concert Where: My house, 76 Boston Avenue, West Medford, MA When: Saturday, May 2, 1998 Time: TBA, but most likely around 7 PM/8 PM Who Invited: All of you! And plase do no feel shy to bring friends Admission: There is a MINIMUM suggested donation of $10, all proceeds go DIRECTLY to the musicians who split it all equally RSVP: ASAP!!!!! =)) (781) 483-1796 kartalst@hugse1.harvard.edu poetchyck@yahoo.com ***This is a DRY/ALCOHOL FREE event*** PLEASE remember to bring extra money. Remember, if you like what you hear so much, you can always slip in some extra cash into the Admission jar... ...or, even better, you can buy Jody's and Jenny's (and if anyone else comes, whoever else's) CD! Jody's 6 song EP is called Volcano and is absolutely incredible. Jenny's 10 song LP is self-titled and touches one of the most beautiful spots inside me. Come and listen to both, and you will understand why it's so hard to choose a favourite that both have to play at the same concert! AND, sleeping space in my house is *INCREDIBLY* limited, and many spots have already been taken (first dibs went to musicians, YAY, and right after my last posting, floor space has more or less been taken...), so this is the time to buddy up with your Boston friends/acquaintances and snag some floor space with them! I hope that as many of you as can posibly come will come. The music is incredible, and the combination of music and good friends is so incredibly worth it. Y'all stay beautiful... love you all Stephanie Stephanie Maria Kartalopoulos We should be very greatful to have a kartalst@hugse1.harvard.edu limited body...like mine or like The Greek Poet Chyck yours. If you had a limitless life it would be a real problem for you. What makes a desert beautiful is -Shunryu Suzuki that soemwhere it hides a well. -Exupery ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V2 #96 ********************************