From: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org (mad-mission-digest) To: mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Subject: mad-mission-digest V2 #57 Reply-To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sender: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * If you wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * mad-mission-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Patty's tour dates, go to: * http://www.spectra.net/~ducksoup/pattyg/patttour.htm * OR * go to http://www.amrecords.com/road/index.html * and fill in the blanks :) * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V2 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. mad-mission-digest Tuesday, March 3 1998 Volume 02 : Number 057 Today's Subjects: ----------------- MM: chicago show [Steven Hart ] MM: delurking ["Luca, Joseph" ] MM: pg ["Sean P. Palen, AB, HMA" ] MM: "Flaming Red" [ZIAD_TOUBASSY@bm.com] MM: LJ Booth ["LB" ] MM: Steve Poltz ["David Lee" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 10:18:43 -0500 From: Steven Hart Subject: MM: chicago show My name is Steve and I have posted before but it has been a while so I will go through the introductions again. I live in Chicago and have been lucky enough to see Patty on 2 occasions prior to the Chicago show. The first time was about a year ago in Raleigh when she opened for Shawn Colvin and the second time was her Lilith appearance in Columbus, OH. I was surprised and disappointed to hear when the Chicago show sold out so quickly, although happy for Patty, I didn't really expect that to happen. Needless to say, I had been beating myself up ever since, thinking that I wouldn't get into the show. I went with my girlfriend anyway and we got to Schuba's really early to wait in line for any extra tickets. Well by some stroke of luck, my girlfriend ran into an old friend who was with a date who knew the guys working the door. So to cut the story short, we got in, even got seats in what I can only call a "very" intimate performance hall. I think it held about 150-200 people with not a bad seat. Patty played an amazing set and really had the crowd in the palm of her hand. She even had everyone cracking up when she completely drew a blank on the lyrics to the song about her Mama. She tried to mumble a few lines and then gave up and said "I feel so bad for my mama..." or something like that. I really don't know what else to say about the show, I too am speechless. She has the voice of an angel. I did the best that I could with remembering the setlist. I am not familiar with the new material so I am sure that a few names are wrong. I also can't remember the exact order but here goes: Cain Poor Man's House Sweet Loraine Mama song (well, half of it at least) Mad Mission Every Little Bit Change Forgiveness Flaming Red EmyLou Harris Cover (I can't remember the name) Moses Christina Moon Song (Goofy little song she wrote for her Valentine) Encore Not Alone Crazy Mary That is all that I have, but I would love to hear from any others on the list who saw the Chicago show. Steve ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 10:20:26 -0500 From: "Luca, Joseph" Subject: MM: delurking Howdy, everyone! My first post, and I'll try to keep it brief. I finally saw Patty for the first time in Providence a couple of weeks ago; she was, as expected, awe-inspiring. She was also quite friendly and accessible after the show. After raving to her, I said, "I have three words for you: Living Room Tour." She said that she had heard that rumor from her manager, but that she herself hadn't started the rumor. As for whether it would happen, she said, "We'll see." So we can still hope. It was nice meeting Ted, and his sister, and his friend. Y'all were very friendly. Not so nice was the venue: The voluminous smoke was disgusting. I guess I've gotten spoiled by smoke-free coffeehouses, but it was so bad my wife and friends left an hour before Troy came on. It was only Patty that kept me there. Anyhow, I remember early on on this list that we were discussing the "queer" line in "Moses," and Patty mentioned that we were thinking too much. But when she played "Tony," I wondered if the debates would start anew. They haven't here, but I'm attaching a post that I saw on the Dar-list that I thought you might find interesting. I am not including the poster's name and address, since I didn't seek permission for reprinting the attached. Anyhow, have a great day. Waiting for a Patty/Dar tour, Joe __________________________ Well, as expected, Patty Griffin was truly amazing at The Ark in Ann Arbor. I was there for the 7:00 pm show. (My first visit to Ann Arbor - - -- what a great town!) Troy Campbell opened for her and I found his voice and lyrics captivating. I actually met Patty on a street corner about 2 hours before the show and we chatted briefly. She seemed awkward/shy in our interaction. Very different than her stage presence. She sang a number of songs I had never heard before: Flaming Red Shoes (and she had a great pair on!); a song entitled "Tony" I think. The show ran late, so those folks in line for the 9:00 show had to wait out in the cold. One troubling thing for me with Patty's music is her gay content. In "Moses" she talks about her best friend being "queer" and then goes on to describe a very narcissistic man (a gay stereotype). In "Tony" (song about a high school acquaintance who is gay who kills himself) she uses the words "faggot" and "fag". I interpret the song to be that she identifies with Tony in his isolation and aloneness and that she wishes that they had both found ways to reach out across that gulf to connect with one another. But I am still left wondering and slightly disturbed. While the use of slurs is very hard-hitting and gripping, I'm am still left with a knot in my stomach when they are not tied directly to a strong social justice message. (As in, Jewel's "Pieces of You".) Maybe its just another level of my own internalized heterosexism. My prayers are that Patty's intentions are positive and healing for our world. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 10:52:10 -0500 (EST) From: "Sean P. Palen, AB, HMA" Subject: MM: pg PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE say this worked sts ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 13:35:35 -0500 From: ZIAD_TOUBASSY@bm.com Subject: MM: "Flaming Red" New listee (or is that "lister"?) here... This may have already been covered, but do we have a list of tracks that are to appear on "Flaming Red" yet? Saw Patty at NYC's Fez a couple of weeks ago and was blown away by the non-"Living with Ghosts" material -- wasn't sure if it was all from the new album or not. Particularly loved "Tony" and "Christina". Any help much appreciated. Oh, and what's our stand on tape trading around here? Ziad ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 16:36:07 -0500 From: "LB" Subject: MM: LJ Booth Hey, all. I've only been on the list for less than a week, so forgive me if this covers an old topic. I saw Patty a couple of years ago as an opener, and I don't think I would've known she existed without that experience. Now there's someone else I'm crazy about, but this time the cd isn't as readily available as Patty's was. Has anyone seen/heard LJ Booth? I saw him open for David Wilcox a little over a month ago and was blown away, even though he only performed four or five songs. I should've grabbed a cd at the show, I know, but as soon as he was finished, the crowd loved him so much that they swarmed his table, and the line didn't recede before Wilcox came on. Now, of course, I can't find any of his cds for sale. Anyone have an idea where I can score one? I think at least one of them is on Agua Azul Records from Texas, and another is from a label in Minnesota/Wisconsin (?). Help! Thanks! Lori ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 23:52:56 -0800 From: "David Lee" Subject: MM: Steve Poltz This isn't really a Patty G. contribution, but rather a Jewel one. Since I'm not on the Jewel mail list, I thought those EDAs on this list might enjoy hearing about Steve Poltz if they haven't already. Steve was on the World Cafe radio show last Friday and he was amazing! Apparently Jewel and him colloborate a bit in their songwriting, he told a few funny gems about their experiences before and after Jewel hit the bigtime. Just the thought of both of these major, major talents working together is incredible. He even sang the song he co-wrote "You Were Meant For Me" solo and he was definitely up to the task. If you like Jewels singing, you'll probably like this guy Steve Poltz, I think his cd came out already. From the poor man's house... David ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V2 #57 ********************************