From: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org (mad-mission-digest) To: mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Subject: mad-mission-digest V2 #22 Reply-To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sender: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * If you wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * mad-mission-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Patty's tour dates, go to: * http://www.spectra.net/~ducksoup/pattyg/patttour.htm * OR * go to http://www.amrecords.com/road/index.html * and fill in the blanks :) * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V2 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. mad-mission-digest Saturday, January 24 1998 Volume 02 : Number 022 Today's Subjects: ----------------- MM: upcoming shows...what's the deal? [wdb@obl.bidmc.harvard.edu (William] MM: Patty in boston [lgrady@lnmta.bentley.edu] MM: Patty Changes [ABershaw ] MM: New Member [Elaine Bean ] Re: MM: upcoming shows...what's the deal? [JessiDenis ] MM: Patty News [Glennia Campbell ] MM: song called "Mary" ["Terry D. Kline" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 14:05:42 -0500 From: wdb@obl.bidmc.harvard.edu (William D. Bartholomew) Subject: MM: upcoming shows...what's the deal? since it's clear the upcoming cd is of different format than we are all used to (patty alone with her guitar), will the shows on this tour reflect this change? ie: will she have an accompanying band? it would be nice if she didn't. sorry, but i heard the alternate version of "let him fly," and frankly, i'm scared to hear the new cd. especially at the iron horse show. it's small and intimate, it would be nice if it were simply patty, and nobody else. the somerville theatre is bigger, and more atune to a band atmosphere. whatever. anyone have a preference/opinion? it's the solemn nature of lwg that attracted me to pg's music (the front table seat the day i first heard/saw her didn't hurt, tho). i wish it could stay that way. but it doesn't look like that's gonna happen, eh? oh wells, bill b ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 14:54:27 -0500 From: lgrady@lnmta.bentley.edu Subject: MM: Patty in boston Hi All! I'm behind in my reading and responses....sorry! Saucy - I got your message - I think you're right - I may be confused about which song I was hearing on the radio...one of my friends is a music critic so I'll see if he can get his hands on that dj-only item... Dana - wasn't that Eli Whiney Barn show GREAT?!?!?! I wish that you all could have been there - A beautiful warm evening with the huge lilac bushes around the barn in full bloom....Patty did a fantastic job (as usual!!) For everyone going to the Somerville Theatre show - I talked to the guy at songstreet productions - he said that Patty and ellis are playing separate sets and together! A friend forwarded this article along.... "ELLIS PAUL WINS SEVENTH BOSTON MUSIC AWARD In a town known as one of the top Folk scenes in the nation, Ellis Paul has won his 7th Boston Music Award for Outstanding Contemporary Folk Act. Other nominees for this competitive award were Martin Sexton, Patty Larkin, Peter Mulvey, Don White, and Merrie Amsterburg. Ellis will return to the Boston area on February 21 for a special concert at the Somerville (Mass.) Theater, where he will preview his upcoming Rounder Records release in this beautiful 900-seat historic venue. Patty Griffin will be joining Ellis on the bill to promote her upcoming A&M Records release. This February 21st show is the first time Ellis and Patty will be sharing a bill in the Boston area. For further information and tickets, call Songstreet Productions at 617-628-3390. Ellis is presently completing the recording of his next Rounder-Philo release in Woodstock, NY. Jerry Marotta will be playing drums and producing, Tony Levin is on bass, and Bill Dillon on guitar. Release date is tentatively scheduled for June 9. For further information, check out www.ellispaul.com." I have another question for the list - when I went to the Eli Whitney Barn show, I took two friends who had never heard of Patty before - they were horrified that knowing what a moving and talented performer she is, how few people came to see her. They felt that she should be much more popular....my response was mixed - I'd love for Patty to be immensely successful, but I would be so frustrated to have to vie for tickets and have to put up with endless one-hit fans who talked through the rest of the show. (this is what I imagine it must be like for you jewel fans) I love seeing Patty in small venues - I'd hate having to try to pick her out in a stadium show... What do y'all feel about this? I know I'm selfish, but surely some of you agree... The LRTs sound fantastic! Let me know if I can help with a Boston leg! - -Laurel ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 15:23:47 EST From: ABershaw Subject: MM: Patty Changes Hi all, I usually just observe "opinionated threads" on mailing lists but there's one here I feel compelled to join in on. I notice a fair quantity of folks here are somewhat fearful of the fact that Patty's 2nd album will not be a solo acoustic affair like the 1st one. I've worked with musicians, many very successful ones, most of my life. One thing I've repeatedly seen when any musician or band has a popular release, is the fact that a large portion of thier fanbase prefers to hear the same "style" again & again. In other words, their fan base resists them changing. This is a very distructive. There's very few musicians who enjoy being associated with any "one thing". It's a drag because it's limiting. I'm highly anticipating Patty's work as she goes through these changes! Anyone creative absolutely has to keep moving on. In it's simplest terms, staying the same is boring & change is interesting, so Patty (or any musician, for that matter) has to change in order to keep their work inspired. I totally understand how much the "fearful folks" love "Living With Ghosts". Personally, it was my favorite release of 1996. However, in my opinion, being resistant to change does nobody any good. I look forward to meeting more of you in Somerville & Noho as well as seeing lotsa old friends! Alan "God Bless The Living Room Tour!" -Cindy Lee Berryhill 11/97 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 15:20:20 -0800 From: Elaine Bean Subject: MM: New Member Hi, I just joined the list yesterday at the suggestion of a friend (Hi Dana) and want to briefly introduce myself. My name is Elaine, and I live in Watertown, MA, and I'm very happy to say that I will be going to the concert at the Somerville Theatre in Feb. Any pre-concert parties in the planning stages? Elaine ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 15:44:12 EST From: JessiDenis Subject: Re: MM: upcoming shows...what's the deal? Bill, I too am a little disappointed that Patty's music is going to change. What sets her apart from the rest is the purity of her vocals, and the passion she she stirs up while she sings. When I describe her to friends it's "just her and her guitar"~ I'm hoping for the best though, she know's what is right for her career...hopefully the band will enhance her beautiful talent, not dominate it. Jess~ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 16:33:34 -0500 From: "Thorne, Robert (NREPC, DEP)" Subject: MM: RE: upcoming shows...what's the deal? I agree that I would still like to see her do a lot of solo material in concert. I loved Patty's solo/acoustic format too much to imagine it getting any better, but I'm not against her changing her style a bit. I'm even looking forward to hearing her new stuff with a band, but I hope she still solos on most of her LWG material. I saw her with some accompaniment at her last show in Louisville. It was just one guy, and he was pretty good when he played guitar or mandolin. (Especially considering they had no formal rehearsal.) But when he got on steel guitar, he often took away from the simple beauty of the songs. It sounded like cows were being slaughtered on "Every Little Bit." Just my two cents. ROB >---------- >From: wdb@obl.bidmc.harvard.edu[SMTP:wdb@obl.bidmc.harvard.edu] >Sent: Friday, January 23, 1998 2:05 PM >To: mad-mission@smoe.org >Subject: MM: upcoming shows...what's the deal? > > >since it's clear the upcoming cd is of different >format than we are all used to (patty alone with >her guitar), will the shows on this tour reflect >this change? ie: will she have an accompanying >band? it would be nice if she didn't. sorry, >but i heard the alternate version of "let him fly," >and frankly, i'm scared to hear the new cd. > >especially at the iron horse show. it's small and >intimate, it would be nice if it were simply patty, >and nobody else. the somerville theatre is bigger, >and more atune to a band atmosphere. whatever. >anyone have a preference/opinion? > >it's the solemn nature of lwg that attracted me to >pg's music (the front table seat the day i first >heard/saw her didn't hurt, tho). i wish it could >stay that way. but it doesn't look like that's >gonna happen, eh? > >oh wells, >bill b > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 18:11:14 -0500 From: owner-mad-mission@smoe.org Subject: [none] with ESMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1.1); Fri, 23 Jan 1998 15:06:06 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 15:06:01 -0800 To: Patty Griffin List From: Glennia Campbell Subject: MM: Patty News content-length: 976 Sender: owner-mad-mission@smoe.org Precedence: bulk I just heard that Patty is in LA now recording a song for "The Newton Boys" soundtrack. I think that's Richard Linklater's latest film, starring Matthew McConaghey and Ethan Hawke, due out soon. The song is not one of Patty's originals, but one the producers chose for the movie. Also, Emmy Lou Harris has recorded a duet with Patty on a new song for Patty's upcoming album. I think it's a song called "Mary"--has anyone out there heard Patty perform that one live? I can't wait to hear it! Also, my brother Troy (my reliable source of the above info) said he will be opening for Patty on most of the Feb. - March tour, except in D.C. and Boston. Troy will definitely be in Syracuse, Cleveland, Louisville and Providence. Be sure to say "Hi" to him for me if you see him. I previously told him all about this group, and he passed along the information to Patty. He said she was quite pleased and said, "I have the best fans in the whole world!" Cheers, Glennia ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 20:29:01 -0800 From: ewend Subject: Re: MM: upcoming shows...what's the deal? William D. Bartholomew wrote: > > since it's clear the upcoming cd is of different > format than we are all used to (patty alone with > her guitar), will the shows on this tour reflect > this change? ie: will she have an accompanying > band? it would be nice if she didn't. sorry, > but i heard the alternate version of "let him fly," > and frankly, i'm scared to hear the new cd. > > especially at the iron horse show. it's small and > intimate, it would be nice if it were simply patty, > and nobody else. the somerville theatre is bigger, > and more atune to a band atmosphere. whatever. > anyone have a preference/opinion? > > it's the solemn nature of lwg that attracted me to > pg's music (the front table seat the day i first > heard/saw her didn't hurt, tho). i wish it could > stay that way. but it doesn't look like that's > gonna happen, eh? > > oh wells, > bill b Please don't judge Patty's new non-acoustic CD by the latter re-release of "Let Him Fly" or "Every Little Bit". I believe these versions were "massaged" by her manager, possibly without Patty's full support. I believe Patty has been working with the band "Iodine" on her new release. Expect Patty to rock! Keep Listening Eugene ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 15:06:01 -0800 From: Glennia Campbell Subject: MM: Patty News I just heard that Patty is in LA now recording a song for "The Newton Boys" soundtrack. I think that's Richard Linklater's latest film, starring Matthew McConaghey and Ethan Hawke, due out soon. The song is not one of Patty's originals, but one the producers chose for the movie. Also, Emmy Lou Harris has recorded a duet with Patty on a new song for Patty's upcoming album. I think it's a song called "Mary"--has anyone out there heard Patty perform that one live? I can't wait to hear it! Also, my brother Troy (my reliable source of the above info) said he will be opening for Patty on most of the Feb. - March tour, except in D.C. and Boston. Troy will definitely be in Syracuse, Cleveland, Louisville and Providence. Be sure to say "Hi" to him for me if you see him. I previously told him all about this group, and he passed along the information to Patty. He said she was quite pleased and said, "I have the best fans in the whole world!" Cheers, Glennia ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 04:22:42 +0000 From: "Terry D. Kline" Subject: MM: song called "Mary" > >Also, Emmy Lou Harris has recorded a duet with Patty on a new song for >Patty's upcoming album. I think it's a song called "Mary"--has anyone out >there heard Patty perform that one live? I can't wait to hear it! > Glennia, Yes I have heard Patty perform this one. It was a great song and I am pretty sure she introduced it by saying that Mary was her sister. I'm glad this in one of the songs she is putting on her new CD. Terry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 23:44:18 -0500 From: Gwen and Jon Cummings Subject: MM: Hi! Just an introductory note and first comment. I'm new on the list; my = name is Jon, I live outside Washington, DC, and I, like probably all of = you, have Living With Ghosts seared into my head from endless plays. = Thank God for the listening posts at Borders, where I first heard = Patty's voice right after the album came out. My favorite concert moment of recent years is one that probably has been = hashed over on the list before: last March, at the 9:30 Club in DC, = where Patty opened for Shawn Colvin and tore the place up. In a story = that my wife has heard more times than she ever wanted to (she stayed = home with our baby boy while I went to the show with a friend), Patty = launched into "Every Little Bit" late in her set and proceeded to break = at least two, and possibly three, guitar strings as she blasted her way = through the song. (Maybe someone out there can refresh my memory on the = exact number.) I'd bet that few people in that audience had heard of = Patty before that show, and some people around me thought I was nuts = shouting the lyrics along with her, but she made a lot of new fans that = night. Speaking of the Patty/Shawn connection, I wanted to throw my two cents = in on the solo acoustic vs. band debate that seems to be raging on the = list. It's reminiscent of the debate that Shawn's fans have had for = years: is she better as a solo with just her guitar, or with a band? A = lot of folks who loved Shawn as a solo folkie back when she was unsigned = in the '80s were thrown off by the band arrangements on her debut album, = and from some comments I've read on her "Few Small Repairs" list, some = of them have never gotten over it. I've heard Shawn play live probably 20 times over the past decade, in = every format she's tried, and I refuse to take a side. There are = qualities in her voice and musicianship that come through better as a = solo than in a band setting, but some of her songs are made immeasurably = more powerful by a full band--including some that she performed for = years as a soloist before she got a record contract. Like everyone who will read this missive, I have been riveted over the = past two years by Patty's power and emotional intimacy as a soloist--her = guitar style, in particular, is like no one I've heard before. Will = that be diluted by the presence of a band on her new album? Probably. = Is that necessarily a bad thing? No--and in fact, it might be exactly = the right setting for her new songs. I'll keep an open mind until I = hear the new album. The best thing we can all hope for is that Patty will have a long enough = (and successful enough) career that we'll have plenty of chances to hear = her songs in both solo and band formats. Then we can make judgments = (and so can she) based on hindsight. Myself, I'm craving Patty's new = album, and I don't care if she's got the Chipmunks singing backup. I look forward to participating in the list. ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V2 #22 ********************************