From: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org (mad-mission-digest) To: mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Subject: mad-mission-digest V6 #178 Reply-To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sender: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * mad-mission-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Patty's tour dates, go to: * http://www.pattygriffin.net/PattyInConcert.html * OR * go to http://www.atorecords.com * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V6 #___ gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. mad-mission-digest Saturday, May 4 2002 Volume 06 : Number 178 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: MM: Non-Album Songs ["Carl Kremer" ] Re: MM: Non-Album Songs-Shells [Danalee7@aol.com] MM: perceptions ["Charlie Sweeney" ] Re: MM: Non-Album Songs-Shells [ShinesUpNice@aol.com] Re: MM: RE: Not on the album [Danalee7@aol.com] MM: Who is Margaret? [Jon Schneider ] MM: Keswick show....Wow. [Stephen Golato ] MM: Re: [Patty Griffin] Patti Griffin Official Online Store ["Don Henn" <] MM: Re: Patty in S.F.--yippeeee ["Don Henn" ] MM: Mean Patty ["Don Henn" ] MM: Patty on Pollstar.com [FlamingRed74@aol.com] MM: Patty article [Jon Schneider ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 13:30:01 -0400 From: "Carl Kremer" Subject: Re: MM: Non-Album Songs Oh boy. >From: David Tumbarello >To: Aaron J Adler , mad-mission@smoe.org >Subject: Re: MM: Non-Album Songs >Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 07:56:52 -0700 (PDT) > > >ridiculous 'war' we're in and the > > idiotic violence in the > > Middle East? > > > > >Aaron, > This rediculous war is to prevent another sicko in >Afghanastan from running planes into our buildings. >This rediculous war is to prevent school children in >Afghanastan from being taught and brainwashed about >who to hate. This rediculous war is to retailiate >against what happened on 9/11 and put fear in any >party that would ever consider doing this to America >again. > Are you serious? Do you really expect us to stand >by and not respond when 3000+ Americans have been >murdered by a specific party in Afghanastan? > >DT >Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness >http://health.yahoo.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: Click Here ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 13:40:50 EDT From: Danalee7@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: Non-Album Songs-Shells In a message dated 5/3/02 7:25:54 AM, aadler@juno.com writes: << Does anyone else think 'Shells' would be the perfect opener for an album protesting this ridiculous 'war' we're in and the idiotic violence in the Middle East? I'm sure Patty's too shy to spearhead something like this, but I was somewhat amazed that she didn't play the song during the Concerts for A Landmine Free World, or at least she didn't at the one I attended. Just a thought... >> Yes- It would make a good anti-war theme song- at one of the landmine concerts in Santa Rosa I actually sent up a note at intermission and asked for this song. She came out and said that she got the note, and that it would be a good song for the Landmine concerts but that she was not going to do it. I also got to speak to her for a few minutes after the Slims concert and again I asked her to start doing Shells and she simply said she couldn't do that song anymore. I should have asked her why. Maybe it is from too long ago. It is so beautiful. I think and have said a few times, that an exceptional video could be done from Shells that would really make the point of the innocents harmed in these war things. It is one of my FAVE fave Patty songs- a "Major Song" I call those songs. Dana in Berkeley ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 13:49:45 -0400 (EDT) From: "Charlie Sweeney" Subject: MM: perceptions Randy wrote: >so if anyone will be so kind as to send me a copy i will return blans, postage, first child or whatever---------THANKS!! I don't have a copy to help you out with, but if you would *take* my first born (m/18 yrs) I'd be happy to search the world for a copy for you :-) As I read the commentary re: the accordion on 1kK I wonder how much the system it's being played on affects the perception of this particular instrument. There are lots of CD's that i own that sound like sh!t on the computer, not very good on the boombox, barely acceptable in the car and OMYGAWD THAT'S AWESOME on the livingroom system with all the bells and whistles. 1kK falls a little more towards the acceptable end of the scale in all modes, but i do notice on the computer and boombox, the accordiaon is somewhat accentuated, probably because the speakers resonate naturally at the frequencies of the accordion. Just a thought. Charlie (=}===# http://somethingblack.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 14:11:07 EDT From: ShinesUpNice@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: Non-Album Songs-Shells SHELLS RULES ONE OF TOP 5 PATTY SONGS OTHERS BEING TRUTH #2 RAIN LONG RIDE HOME TONY CARRY ME ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 14:11:25 EDT From: Danalee7@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: RE: Not on the album In a message dated 5/2/02 12:48:42 PM, Gregory.Willms@qwest.com writes: << 1 - Time of the Dance 2 - No More Illusions 3 - Heart of the Wound 4 - Under These Clouds 5 - I Write the Book 6 - Calling Me Home 7 - Let Your Freedom Ring 8 - You Don't Have Me 9 - Florida (which some people may list under another name, but I downloaded this song and "Florida" is my best guess for a title) 10 - Off You Go >> All of the above would make a good album-Patty has soooo many good songs that most of us will never hear without LFML. I was thinking about a similar idea last night- if I could have added several more songs to 1000 Kisses- I would have added: We Are Water Falling Down Florida Truth #2 Top Of the World Little God as the finale The last 3 from Silver Bell CD. I love both Silver Bell CD and 1000 Kisses- I listened to 1000 Kisses straight thru again on a commute Tues and I really like every one of those songs so much. No skipping. Mil Besos and Tomorrow Night are not my style, but she does them beautifully. All of the rest of those songs are exactly the kind of style I love of Patty's. My first reaction when I heard the Cd was that I liked the concert versions better than the CD versions, but I have gotten over that. Someone mentioned Standing the other day. When Don played it for me a couple of years ago from the sampler, I was not too impressed, as gospel is also not my style of preference, but listening to it on Silver Bell, it has really grown on me. It is really perfect. Even Sorry and Sad, I did not get the first few times around, but now I am even getting into that. At first I thought it sounded like a 12 yr old wrote it, but it is making sense now. { Surprise} Sooner Or Later could have been a hit I think- She should pull that one out again too. Same with Perfect White Girls. She'll probably move on to other stuff as she seems to be a prolific writer, but I hope she gets those Silver Bell songs out one way or another. If I won the lottery, I would buy the rights to them all and give them to her. LOL, no chance of that, but the thought is there. It is a great collection of songs and really shows her versatility, not just my IMHO. True! Dana in Berkeley ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 18:39:05 GMT From: Jon Schneider Subject: MM: Who is Margaret? Does anybody know who "Margaret" is. Patty dedicates 1000 Kisses to her grandfathers and to Margaret. I also noticed the artwork on the last page of credits with Maggie on it. Just wondering. By the way I totally agree with the comments about the recording varying depending on what system its being played on. I have a tape for my car (still no cd player for the car) and its sound is noticeably worse. Its even worse in our van than in the sedan. That may account for some of the accordion comments. Long live Patty ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 16:46:04 -0400 From: Stephen Golato Subject: MM: Keswick show....Wow. Patty was incredible at the Keswick last night. I was mesmerized from the moment she walked on stage. I was so excited that she played Florida. But no Top of the World or Nobody's Crying. But, still, I have no complaints about the show. It's so hard to choose which song to play when there is such a vault of fantastic songs. And I don't know what the heck all this about her stage presence, arms waving, accordion, etc is all about. Everything seemed just fine for me. She seemed relaxed, enjoying being there, and she was funny talking between some songs too. This was definitely a show to record. I hope someone did. I would love to get a copy of some show with the ensemble this tour. Email me, please, if you could help out. She really performs the studio songs live so well, sometimes better than the studio recordings. Although, I did miss the bongos at the beginning of Mil Besos. She seems to express the emotions and phrase the lyrics more when performing live. Really creates more of an affect when she gets softer or louder, more instruments or less instruments through the song, and dramatic pauses. She started out with Chief. After she performed Mary as an encore she left the stage. She suddenly came back when she realized she forgot to play Mil Besos. She said she could not leave without playing the title cut from her CD. The night went by so fast. It was over before I knew it. And I was amazed how emotional some members of the audience got there. She really touches many people. I could have sat there all evening into morning, and then just go straight into work. I couldn't fall asleep afterwards. I was still on my Patty high. Steve "Don't just exist. Live." *************************************************************************** This electronic mail transmission contains confidential and/or privileged information intended only for the person(s) named. Any use, distribution, copying or disclosure by another person is strictly prohibited. *************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 19:52:36 -0400 From: "Don Henn" Subject: MM: Re: [Patty Griffin] Patti Griffin Official Online Store GO MIKE !!!! > >Hey- Patti Griffin has her new online store up and running at > >http://stores.musictoday,com/pattigriffin > >The site right now features Patti's CD, as well as shirts, posters, > >and other accessories. The stores helps out Patti as well as her ************************************************* > > It's not Patty's store and it does not help her one bit. It's YOUR store. > If it was Patty's store, the email announcing it and the web-address to the > store would SPELL HER FIRST NAME RIGHT. > > So, quit wasting my time with your making money off someone else's name. > > Mike ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 20:12:54 -0400 From: "Don Henn" Subject: MM: Re: Patty in S.F.--yippeeee At the moment , I'm not planning on making the west coast , but if you can clear that scenario with Patty , I'll make a special effort : ) Don > > Now the big question is whether Don will drag his ass here. Maybe we can > get him drunk and get him invited by Patty to sing with her on stage. Now, > that would be something to behold. > > Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 21:06:51 -0400 From: "Don Henn" Subject: MM: Mean Patty MMers , I find it hard to believe that Patty would be so mean to her biggest audience of the tour , at the Keswick , that she would deprive them all of the opportunity to hear "Ruby's Arms". Probably won't have time for reviews , (stop that cheering ! ) but I have to give Patty's performances of the song it's just praise. I don't feel deprived b/c I've heard it 7 or 8 times , & due to my unsavory connections with the criminal element , I bagged a copy to listen to on the way home. The only coherent thing I could say about the song before was that it is REALLY GREAT ! , & it's sensual & beautiful , right up Patty's alley. After hearing it another 10 or 20 times , I could stand back & give it some critical thought. Couldn't find anything to criticize , though. On this song , anyway , Patty's ensemble was up to the standard that her vocals set. Michael's delicate touch on the piano , the rich melancholy sound of Brian's cello , that is so appropriate to Patty's sound , & the spare , but haunting guitar of Doug , who put the cherry on top of this masterpiece with a few lingering , haunting notes at the end. "Stage presence ? " Does the quality of the music have anything to do with it ? Anyone ever hear of Joe Cocker ? From my point of view , Patty's stage presence when she is performing is commanding. When she's not , I can't imagine anyone who's presence is more delightfully charming. What more do you want ? Maybe you can find a stage where Charlton Heston & Merle Streep perform soliloquies from Shakespeare. I've always equated stage presence with actors , with whom it's very important to project a persona , never with musicians or comedians who depend on their music or comedy for audience approval. As for the way Patty moves when she's performing , the most creative people emote freely , & if Patty starts becoming self-conscious about her movements on stage , that will be the first bar on a creativity-stifling prison. She can dance like Elaine on Seinfeld for all I care , as long as that great music keeps coming out. I saw Joe Cocker once , & was a little weirded out with his spastic , disjointed movements. But as soon as he opened his mouth , & that great voice came out , everything was fine. I have this strange desire when I go to a concert. All I want to do is watch & hear great music being performed. Sister bluebird Flying high above Shine your wings Forward to the sun Jon Anderson "Starship Trooper" Performed by Yes Don ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 23:13:18 EDT From: FlamingRed74@aol.com Subject: MM: Patty on Pollstar.com Hey guys, There is a short piece on Patty, and the new tour up on Pollstar.com right now. Go to this address to check it out. :-) http://www.pollstar.com/news/viewnews.pl?NewsID=1791 Boy, she's popping up all over the place lately! Dave (Keswick review, STILL to come) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 04:03:47 GMT From: Jon Schneider Subject: MM: Patty article Here's another piece about Patty: http://www.nashvillerage.com/music/cds/cds2002/050202-pattygriffin.shtml ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V6 #178 *********************************