From: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org (mad-mission-digest) To: mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Subject: mad-mission-digest V6 #167 Reply-To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sender: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * mad-mission-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Patty's tour dates, go to: * http://www.pattygriffin.net/PattyInConcert.html * OR * go to http://www.atorecords.com * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V6 #___ gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. mad-mission-digest Monday, April 29 2002 Volume 06 : Number 167 Today's Subjects: ----------------- MM: DMB [diamondmask@juno.com] Re: MM: DMB ["Melissa Fisk" ] MM: DMB [] MM: Re: DMB & recent threads ["Sean and Rebecca Courtney" ] MM: RE: Charlotte show moved ["Keith Johnson" ] MM: Dave Matthews, Julie Miller, Patty and ACLimits [MactheMutt@aol.com] MM: Somerville theater review [Danalee7@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 08:02:07 -0700 From: diamondmask@juno.com Subject: MM: DMB When I saw Dave Matthews at the Gorge here in WA, he came up to a fence not far from me and was shaking hands and signing stuff until security made him leave because of the crowd he was gathering. He's living in the Seattle area while his wife finishes school. There is a story of these two guys moving. They need help with a couch, and this guy is sitting on a bench nearby in a park. They ask him if he could give him a hand, and he does so. When they get up into the apartment, one of the guys helping the other two move, recognizes Dave Matthews immediately. When asked about the story, Dave said it was a very heavy couch. You can catch artists on their bad days as well as their good ones. I seem to remember that WS '99 didn't end on a high note, and I would bet there was some level of stress for the bands. Probably shouldn't judge him on one instance. I'm not sure he's a fad. This is his 4th year playing the Gorge, and he sold out all 3 days in about 20 minutes. As a guitar player, what he does on the guitar is refreshing and different. He's not a whiz by any means, but the rhythms and fills really grab me. I knew that when he signed Patty, she was in very good company. I think she'll do very well with his label. ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 10:01:17 -0700 From: "Melissa Fisk" Subject: Re: MM: DMB Amen to Diamondmask for sticking up for Dave Matthews!! Thank you! There is so much ripping going on in the list this past week it makes it kind of hard to feel like this is much of a friendly crowd, even though I know it is. I absolutely believe everyone's opinion is valuable, but I also feel some people can just get rude and snippy. Personally, I listen to whatever catches my ear whether it's considered trendy or old school. I don't get worried about people thinking I am following a fad by listening to DMB or Fiona Apple or Alanis. I know what I like and it's never been because something has been popular. This is the way most on the list feel about their music, I have a feeling. Diamondmask is also absolutely right when he says artisits are entitled to bad days like the rest of us. In no way am I saying that Dave Matthews is a saint, but give the guy a break. I am sure I am being blasphemous when I say this, but everyone has bad days, which even *gasp* surely includes Patty! Enough preaching. I love this list, especially how free everyone is to express themselves, so don't stop! The power of having one's own opinion is a wonderful thing, as well as being willing to stick up for that opinion. Thanks to Mike for providing us with a forum where we can be unafraid to speak out minds. Flame on, MMers! Melissa - ---------------------------------------- "It's hard to give, It's hard to get It's hard to live still I think it's the best bet It's hard to give and I'm never gonna forget But everybody needs a little forgiveness Everybody needs a little forgiveness..." Patty Griffin - Forgiveness - ----Original Message Follows---- From: diamondmask@juno.com To: mad-mission@smoe.org Subject: MM: DMB Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 08:02:07 -0700 When I saw Dave Matthews at the Gorge here in WA, he came up to a fence not far from me and was shaking hands and signing stuff until security made him leave because of the crowd he was gathering. He's living in the Seattle area while his wife finishes school. There is a story of these two guys moving. They need help with a couch, and this guy is sitting on a bench nearby in a park. They ask him if he could give him a hand, and he does so. When they get up into the apartment, one of the guys helping the other two move, recognizes Dave Matthews immediately. When asked about the story, Dave said it was a very heavy couch. You can catch artists on their bad days as well as their good ones. I seem to remember that WS '99 didn't end on a high note, and I would bet there was some level of stress for the bands. Probably shouldn't judge him on one instance. I'm not sure he's a fad. This is his 4th year playing the Gorge, and he sold out all 3 days in about 20 minutes. As a guitar player, what he does on the guitar is refreshing and different. He's not a whiz by any means, but the rhythms and fills really grab me. I knew that when he signed Patty, she was in very good company. I think she'll do very well with his label. ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: Click Here ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 15:09:44 -0700 From: Subject: MM: DMB DMB has to be one of the most boring bands around. I just don't see the intrigue... He's a little better by himself... CC ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 16:18:46 -0500 From: "Sean and Rebecca Courtney" Subject: MM: Re: DMB & recent threads First of all, let me say these most recent "least likable" threads have been refreshing. It's a nice break from the norm. Now, my take on DMB. I was a huge DMB fan in 92 and continued to love them until just recently. Before anyone asks, it was not one of those, "Well they got too big and I'm to hip to listen to a band that is on TRL" because it wasn't. I liked Crash. I even liked Before These Crowded Streets, though not as much as each preceding album, the highlight of the catalog being Under the Table. I saw him in concert numerous times between 92 and about 98 or so and thought each concert was fantastic. I didn't see them again until summer or spring of 2000, and I don't know if it was the fact that it was the biggest place I had ever seen them in (the Memphis Pyramid vs. clubs and theaters) or what, but the concert was horrible. It was uninspired, slow-moving, and everything that the shows in 93 were not. I also realize that the first four or five times I saw him, you had to be 18 or 21 to get into the show, and the Pyramid looked like perhaps NYSNC was opening, so I could not even hear the band that well but for the screaming, hip-hugging, youngsters. Anyway, I heard the most recent studio album, and really did not like it at all. It made me think of Jewel. I think it was the Glen Ballard factor, but I was not even that impressed with the Steve Lillywhite album either (which I read will see official release soon). Anyway, take it for what it's worth, one self-important listener's opinion. Sean np - Cary Hudson (best album of the year so far?) Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 5:09 PM Subject: MM: DMB > DMB has to be one of the most boring bands around. I just don't see the > intrigue... He's a little better by himself... > > CC ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 16:15:44 -0700 (PDT) From: fotographix Subject: MM: Charlotte show moved i called the stella center in Charlotte and they said Patty has been moved to the Visual Light (sp?). they can be reached at 704-358-9200. peace! foto Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 20:11:47 -0400 From: "Keith Johnson" Subject: MM: RE: Charlotte show moved Good luck getting tickets. According to their website( http://visulite.com ), you have to register to become a member ($2). You can register online and they're supposed to have the card ready for you at the door. I would like to go ahead and get tickets, but can't figure out the best way to do it. When you call their phone #, they say "for advance tickets, leave us a message and we'll get back to you (apparently, they're not available throught Tickemaster). I spoke with someone at the theater over a week ago and they have yet to call me back. Do any of you Charlotte residents have any tips on the best method to pick up a pair of tickets to this place? Thanks, Keith > i called the stella center in Charlotte and they said > Patty has been moved to the Visual Light (sp?). they > can be reached at 704-358-9200. peace! > foto ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 00:43:23 EDT From: MactheMutt@aol.com Subject: MM: Dave Matthews, Julie Miller, Patty and ACLimits I also was not a big Dave fan untill the Austin City Limits show...not that I am now, but somehow that show made me more accepting of him. A friend of mine made me listen to a couple of his songs awhile back...too many words and too much going on in them for my little brain to keep up with. Something like that anyway. But....I really liked that song...."Bartender Please, fill my glass for me...with the wine you gave Jesus after three days in the ground", as well as the cover of the Johnny Cash song.."She Walks These Hills" or something like that. I thought he seemed more down to earth on ACL. Then after hearing he was involved in getting Patty a record my opinion of him took off. By the way....the best part of the ACL show (IMHO) was Julie Millers song "I Still Cry" with Patty singing background. That has gotta be one of the prettiest songs ever written. I can't do anything while that song is playing except sit there and listen. One more thing.... Ever notice when Patty is singing "Mary", she always SMILES on the line...."Mary stays behind and starts cleaning up the place"? She did on ACL and at the Park West in Chicago a few weeks ago. Must be fond memories. Later Randy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 01:14:47 EDT From: Danalee7@aol.com Subject: MM: Somerville theater review Songstress Griffin bares her soul Music Review/by Daniel Gewertz Patty Griffin, with Michael Fracasso, at the Somerville Theatre, Friday night. Patty Griffin opened her show on Friday with a wild card: a song in Spanish, ``Mil Besos,'' from the new ``1000 Kisses'' CD. With the sultry accordion, the romance language, the swaying, cabaret sound and Griffin's yearning tone, the spirit of another small woman with a huge, hearty voice was summoned: Edith Piaf. Nothing else in Griffin's superlative 85-minute, sold-out show was sung in a foreign tongue, and the sound, with cello, was more like some beautiful new breed of alt-rock chamber music than cabaret. But Piaf's soul-baring magic, her rare gift of heart-to-heart communication, hung over the night. Griffin's voice has grown more expressive and her art has matured remarkably in the years since she was a Bostonian. The gorgeous new CD is a mellow affair, and tender ballads such as ``Rain'' and ``Be Careful'' duplicated the album's hush. But she exhibited her full, exciting range by night's end, including some rocking torch and twang, achieved with just her guitar and Doug Lancio's dark-hued slide guitar. ``Flaming Red'' was a desperate locomotive of a song. ``You Never Get What You Want,'' ``Poor Man's House'' and Bruce Springsteen's ``Racing In The Street,'' deepened the emotive intensity, which grew almost operatic at times. Among the new songs, ``Long Ride Home'' and ``Making Pies'' were both potent, the latter flowing pensively along on the scattered thoughts and memories of an old woman employed by Table Talk. Griffin chatted humorously about her own workaday life in Harvard Square, as a waitress at Pizzeria Uno. ``Where's my beer?'' one fan yelled. To which Griffin replied: ``I'm very happy to say I don't know.'' The singer seemed as unaffected as when she used to perform at the Somerville Theatre in group shows in the mid-'90s, but she now has the grace and stage-savvy of a star. Of the encores, ``Mary'' stuck in the mind like glue. Opener Michael Fracasso, a veteran singer whose reputation exceeds his appeal, sang for 45 very long minutes. He possesses a fair share of singer-songwriter tools, but his act has too much affect, not enough heart. He simply fails to communicate. ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V6 #167 *********************************