From: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org (mad-mission-digest) To: mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Subject: mad-mission-digest V6 #166 Reply-To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sender: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * mad-mission-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Patty's tour dates, go to: * http://www.pattygriffin.net/PattyInConcert.html * OR * go to http://www.atorecords.com * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V6 #___ gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. mad-mission-digest Sunday, April 28 2002 Volume 06 : Number 166 Today's Subjects: ----------------- MM: Article from the Boston Herald ["Chris" ] MM: Patty in Women who Rock [Songbird22@aol.com] MM: Re: the top(?) 10 bands i can't stand ["Lisa Zwick" Subject: MM: Article from the Boston Herald A long way to the shelves: Patty Griffin's new CD had a rough trip by Daniel Gewertz Friday, April 26, 2002 Patty Griffin's new album, ``1000 Kisses,'' is not just an artistic achievement. It's a triumph that it was made at all. Before producing the new CD ``out of pocket,'' and selling it to Dave Matthews' label, ATO, Griffin endured painful and prolonged record label hassles. In 2000, for the second time in her short recording career, an album was fully produced, postponed and then never released. She doesn't take it personally. ``I don't think there's any female my age at a major record label right now who's having an easy time of it,'' said Griffin, 38. ``They've geared their efforts to a younger age group. And if you don't have platinum potential, forget it. They just don't do what I do anymore. The structure of the major labels changed while I was there. And so did I,'' said Griffin, who plays the Somerville Theatre tonight. The lost CD, ``Silver Bell,'' was produced at Daniel Lanois' Kingsway Studio in New Orleans. Griffin's label, A&M, taken over by Interscope by that time, neither accepted nor rejected the effort. They just dawdled. For a year. ``Then they brought me to L.A. to tell me they didn't like the record. They weren't specific. I think they didn't hear a hit. But they didn't drop me, they wanted me to record something else. At that time, I owed them a lot of money and was not in position to argue. So I did try to do more work for them for a little while,'' said Griffin, her small, shy voice little more than a mutter. The new recordings did not proceed well, however. ``So my manager managed to cut me a deal out of there,'' she said. In order to break her contract, Griffin was forbidden to release the recordings from New Orleans on another label. She can, however, re-record up to five of the lost album's songs. ``After five songs, for the privilege of re-recording my own work, I'll have to pay them. That's pretty standard and ridiculous record-contract bull,'' she said. The Maine native and current Austin, Texas, resident was originally signed by A&M in 1995, and recorded a heavily produced debut album. Neither she nor A&M were crazy about the results, so the label released Griffin's original demo tapes instead. With just voice and guitar, ``Living With Ghosts'' was raw, simple, emotionally naked and highly unusual for a big label. Griffin has always been treated better by fellow musicians than labels. In the late '80s, while living in Boston, she was so timid, she ``lacked the courage'' to audition for bands. ``I was really, really shy. I worked on my own, but I wasn't an active part of the scene,'' she said. Yet her guitar teacher, the esteemed John Curtis, thought so highly of her talent that he booked some gigs for her, backing her up on guitar. In recent years she has opened for Shawn Colvin, Lucinda Williams and Emmylou Harris, who seemed to take Griffin under her wing. She joined Harris for the ``Concerts for a Landmine Free World'' tour and album. Her songs have been recorded by Harris, Linda Ronstadt, Martina McBride, Reba McEntire, Bette Midler and Maura O'Connell. The Dixie Chicks' album ``Fly,'' which includes Griffin's ``Let Him Fly,'' sold 10 million records. Griffin has a fondness for down-home recording. ``Ghosts'' was recorded in a kitchen. The new ``1000 Kisses'' was made in the basement of producer Doug Lancio's Nashville house. The spare, acoustic, rootsy approach seems like an extension of her work on the Landmine Tour. The delicate, expressive sound brings out Griffin's intimate voice and writing beautifully. Yet Griffin contends the main reason for the CD's sound is economics. ``It was a cheap, quick way to do an album,'' she said. The use of guitar, accordion, bass and cello are not unusual, but why the vibes, an instrument known from jazz? ``Because we could get the vibes for cheap,'' she said. ``Someone owed the engineer, Giles Reaves, a favor, so he got some vibes for a week for next to nothing and he played them real well.'' Griffin's band tonight consists of Lancio on guitar, accordionist Michael Ramos and cellist Brian Standefer - the mainstays of the CD. Well-regarded veteran Texan songwriter Michael Fracasso opens. Patty Griffin, Somerville Theatre, tonight, 8 p.m. $20. Call 617-628-3390. http://www2.bostonherald.com/entertainment/music/grif04262002.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 20:25:40 EDT From: Songbird22@aol.com Subject: MM: Patty in Women who Rock Patty is featured in the spring 2002 issue of Women who Rock magazine (the one w/ Alanis on the cover). www.womenwhorockmag.com jessica www.jessicaweiser.com | www.aftersilence.net new album AFTER SILENCE available 5/15!! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 20:59:56 -0400 From: "Lisa Zwick" Subject: MM: Re: the top(?) 10 bands i can't stand hey, they're not all bad. there are ones that don't sound exactly the same as all the other stuff out there (like Mike Oldfield and Robert Miles) - -Lisa - ----- > 8. electronica/trance music. (but that's just because i prefer my music > pretty organic & with like, a soul.) > 10. enya/new age/'easy listening' stuff. (boooring!) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 21:15:24 -0400 From: "Lisa Zwick" Subject: MM: Re: RE: Non Patty Question: legality of compilation CDs What would be the use in cd-r's then? We wouldn't even be able to have trees such as LFML. We wouldn't be able to listen to rare, unbuyable music. And it would also take away people's rights to the cds they bought. If we were all still using tapes, we'd be able to record from the radio or cds and make a compilation onto it. All cd-r's do is take it to a new level. Obviously there are people who abuse it, but you can't take the rights away from people who paid good money for their cds to make mixes from them or copies for home/office/travel. - -Lisa - --- >They also lobbied for the Serial Copy > Management System (SCMS) to prevent more than one > generation of digital copying. This prevents "copies > of the copy" from being made, at least digitally. At > the moment, computer CDRs are exempt from both of > these. However, it's rumored some of the CD copying > softwares will eventually give in to pressure and make > future versions of their software observe SCMS. Also, > the RIAA and record companies have been working on a > system to make CDs unreadable by a computer, so they > can't be copied. I'm not so sure that the RIAA is > still all that concerned with me making a compilation > CD for my friend (or copying an entire CD) anymore. > They could very easily encode every CD sold with SCMS > so no digital copies could be made, but they don't. > It's only the copy that has copy protection on it. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 21:44:48 -0400 From: Amanda4865@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: Ha ha ha, my Ten Worst In a message dated Sat, 27 Apr 2002 11:33:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Richard Challen writes: > > A much better--and caustic--list would limit itself > to "serious" artists that we, as music-lovers, are supposed > to "like," but we still hate 'em. I mean, my list only > contains 4 acts who even bother to write their own songs! I've > got some ideas but I'm not going first.... > >--rICH > Heh. I can't believe I'm doing this. In no particular order, artists ("serious" and not) that make me scream, "Change the station! Change the station NOW!!" Steely Dan (it must be a neurological thing, cuz they just about give me seizures) The Eagles (thanks SO much, the seventies) The Doors (poetry. mm hmm. sure, whatever.) The Grateful Dead (meandering 20 minute guitar solo? um, gee, no thanks.) Tori Amos (go ahead, stone the heretic) Dave Matthews Band (music for the _sensitive_ frat boy) Sheryl Crow (never heard anyone so consistently write songs out of the range of their own voice) Jewel (http://modernhumorist.com/mh/0005/movies/songs.cfm http://modernhumorist.com/mh/0005/movies/mp3s/XMenTheme_Jewel.mp3) Jennifer Lopez (somewhere behind all that production is a really crappy voice) Charlotte Church (the android soprano) Mean and proud of it, Amanda ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 23:02:03 -0400 (EDT) From: MichaelMorris@webtv.net (Michael Morris) Subject: MM: Re: mad-mission-digest V6 #165 The new Wilco cd Rocks! Just thought i'd let you guys know.... mike ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V6 #166 *********************************