From: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org (mad-mission-digest) To: mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Subject: mad-mission-digest V6 #156 Reply-To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sender: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * mad-mission-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Patty's tour dates, go to: * http://www.pattygriffin.net/PattyInConcert.html * OR * go to http://www.atorecords.com * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V6 #___ gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. mad-mission-digest Wednesday, April 24 2002 Volume 06 : Number 156 Today's Subjects: ----------------- MM: Cleveland ["Don Henn" ] MM: Patty, Bonnie Raitt & Commercial Success ["Marc Hertz" ] Re: MM: The Ark [FlamingRed74@aol.com] MM: PattyGriffinQuestion [Cathy Wise ] MM: Tabs? [Diane Aylsworth ] Re: MM: The Ark [Jynx419@aol.com] MM: Patty shows [FoxDugal@aol.com] MM: NPC this friday & other amy emerman gigs new york, NY ["Amy Emerman" ] MM: sorry! ["Jessica Boyer" ] MM: Patty Griffin and Ben Kweller Live Radio Interviews and Performances 4/26!! [Mike Connell ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 01:22:12 -0400 From: "Don Henn" Subject: MM: Cleveland MMers , Arrived early , & went ot the Odean to find out what time the doors opened. The doors were open ! Went in & Patty & the band were doing sound check. No one seemed disturbed by my presence , & if I were more anonymous , I probably would have tried to take a seat , but I think Patty & the band might be tired of seeing me all the time. I know what it's like to have someone up your ass every time you turn around , & it's not pleasant. I stood near the door for awhile , but felt like I was spying , so I left & had dinner. Met Mark & Priscilla as soon as we got in. We did a lot of talking , so I don't have a lot of notes. Set list: Making Pies Chief Rain Long Ride Home Be Careful Flaming Red / Patty & Doug You Never Get What You Want / solo Poor Man's House / solo Ballad of Hollis Brown Tony Mad Mission Ruby's Arms Mil Besos Sweet Lorraine Encore Tomorrow Night Let Him Fly Top of the World To be honest , the only strong memory I have of the set , was when I got off of my bar stool , & headed for a closer spot when Patty went into "Ruby's Arms". That song just grows stronger every time I hear it. Cleveland doesn't seem to be a strong town for Patty.The Odean had a balcony , but didn't open it. I think it was the smallest crowd yet in a venue that wasn't sold out.Read a review that panned Cleveland b/c a 3 time Grammy winner was treated rudely by a small inebriated crowd at another venue. They were slow to warm up to Patty , but by the time she hit her solo set , they were all into it. I have to leave soon , so I can't sit here hoping the memories start flowing. I felt compelled to offer a ride to Mark & Priscilla when they spent their cab money on a Patty poster , in spite of it being cold & windy , & they not being dressed for it. Quite a tribute to the power of Patty & her music. Ain't nothing left at all In the end of being proud Patty Griffin "Long Ride Home" Don ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 23:45:49 -0700 From: "Marc Hertz" Subject: MM: Patty, Bonnie Raitt & Commercial Success Huh?, you're saying. Believe me, they're all (marginally) related. I was just reading the review of Patty's Calvin College performance and when I read that Patty was 38, it got me wondering when Bonnie Raitt made her commercial breakthrough (no, I don't understand how my mind works either), thinking she was probably around the same age. Well, she was 40 when Nick of Time was released. Admittedly, she had a lot more albums out prior to that in comparison to Patty, but I still found it interesting, especially noting that Nick of Time was her first album at Capitol after switching over from Warner Bros (another interesting similarity). And what really broke Bonnie at that time commercially (at least in my estimation)? Her video for Thing Called Love. MTV and VH1's influence is obviously different now than it was back then, and I know the topic of how cool it would be for Patty to have a music video has been discussed before, but... I mean how cool would it be to see a video for Rain? Patty sitting in a quiet house with windows on all sides, playing her guitar, as we see it pouring outside through the windows, and a guy standing outside getting drenched, pleading with her to let him in, intercut with black-and-white video of past moments in their relationship. Okay, back to my screenplay... Marc _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 01:55:15 -0500 From: "Dave Short" Subject: MM: RE: Patty, Bonnie Raitt & Commercial Success Admittedly, Bonnie got her rise to MAJOR fame with the release of Nick of Time and all the Grammy success, but that was really a second wind for a stellar career than began in her TEENS. Bonnie was an apprentice to a lot of the old-time bluesmen, and was probably one of the first white women to break into what had previously been a predominantly African-American men's club. She was, and continues, to be a trailblazer. Her new release, Silver Lining, is a nod to those roots and in an incredible effort. It think it's apples and oranges to try to compare Patty and Bonnie's career trajectories. But thank God for them both! Dave - -----Original Message----- From: owner-mad-mission@smoe.org [mailto:owner-mad-mission@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Marc Hertz Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 1:46 AM To: mad-mission@smoe.org Subject: MM: Patty, Bonnie Raitt & Commercial Success Huh?, you're saying. Believe me, they're all (marginally) related. I was just reading the review of Patty's Calvin College performance and when I read that Patty was 38, it got me wondering when Bonnie Raitt made her commercial breakthrough (no, I don't understand how my mind works either), thinking she was probably around the same age. Well, she was 40 when Nick of Time was released. Admittedly, she had a lot more albums out prior to that in comparison to Patty, but I still found it interesting, especially noting that Nick of Time was her first album at Capitol after switching over from Warner Bros (another interesting similarity). And what really broke Bonnie at that time commercially (at least in my estimation)? Her video for Thing Called Love. MTV and VH1's influence is obviously different now than it was back then, and I know the topic of how cool it would be for Patty to have a music video has been discussed before, but... I mean how cool would it be to see a video for Rain? Patty sitting in a quiet house with windows on all sides, playing her guitar, as we see it pouring outside through the windows, and a guy standing outside getting drenched, pleading with her to let him in, intercut with black-and-white video of past moments in their relationship. Okay, back to my screenplay... Marc _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 02:23:13 -0400 From: "Don Henn" Subject: MM: The Ark MMers , Cold & windy in Ann Arbor. Jen , Ed , & I were sitting in the warm Irish pub , O'Neil's , when we decided to check every 15 minutes to see if the line was starting. Jen was anxious to be first. At 5:00 , we checked for the first time , & there were 4 people waiting already. By the time we got out there , we ended up being about 20th in line. Another tribute to the power of Patty & her music. Doors didn't open till 7 , and IT WAS COLD !! Ed & I made one stop back in the pub for some Cinnamon schnapps , also called firewater. I had a light jacket & short sleeve shirt on b/c it was almost 90 degrees when I left Pgh 6 days earlier. Fortunately , lister Pam just couldn't stand to see me shivering , & due to her maternal , protective instincts , INSISTED on putting her downy coat around my shoulders , while I watched HER shiver. What a gem that Pam is : ) Set list: Mil Besos Chief Rain Long Ride Home Making Pies Stolen Car Flaming Red / Patty & Doug Poor Man's House / solo You Never Get What You Want Ballad of Hollis Brown Ruby's Arms Be Careful Mad Mission Nobody's Crying Encore Let Him Fly / Patty & Doug Sweet Lorraine Mary The opening songs were changed a bit with "Mil Besos" opening , & "Making Pies" moved from first to 5th. I think "Mil Besos" works better if it's done after the crowd is warmed up , but it was up to the usual standard. "Stolen Car" & "Flaming Red" were excellent , but during FR , I got the impression that Patty was a little fatigued from the tour. She mentioned at one point during the set that Doug had that "I need a day off look". I imagine they all needed one by then. All I have to do is show up , & I sure needed one. When she did YNGWYW it seemed to me that she was tired , b/c it didn't have the energy level I saw in previous versions. I 'm sure the rest of the audience didn't notice though , b/c it was still a very high-energy performance. I was concerned that the rest of the set might be affected , but Patty bounced right back for "Ballad of Hollis Brown" . Vocals , & music , especially Doug on the guitar were outstanding. Best version of the song in it's short history with Patty & the ensemble. Next up ; "Ruby's Arms". I live for that song since I first heard it. "Be Careful" & "Mad Mission" were fine. Then , in another moment that seemed to be indicative of fatigue , Patty said it was great that the fans came out on a Saturday night. Same thing I heard in Cleveland the night before : ) Fortunately , I was familiar with Patty's introduction to "Nobody's Crying" , so I could give Jen early warning , & she wouldn't geek out too much. She seems to be as captured by it , as I am by RA. It's also one of my favorites , & it was as good a version as I've heard. Again , the encore was anticlimactic after RA & NC , but they were fine. Met too many listers to mention on the trip. Mainly b/c I was around Jen as they all flocked to her. I was heartened by the number who said they like my narrative reviews , so I'll take the naysayers with a grain of salt , & continue on. Too long , and/or too critical , quite a few have said. My name's on every one , so they DO have the delete option. And for those who want to live in their "100 % wonderful" world , I would suggest that Barney the Dinosaur , & the Teletubbies are still available on TV. Ain't nothing left at all In the end of being proud Patty Griffin "Long Ride Home" Don ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 06:49:08 EDT From: FlamingRed74@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: The Ark In a message dated 4/24/2002 3:02:58 AM Eastern Daylight Time, donhenn@msn.com writes: >> I'll take the naysayers with a grain of salt , & > >continue on. Too long , and/or too critical , quite a > >few have said>> Umm, who in their right mind would want someone to do a half-assed review, sacrificing the details, all in the name of making it short?? I agree, size does not ALWAYS matter.. LOL but when you consider that Don's reviews are always quality content, and give so many great little details.. I can't imagine someone would have the gall to complain about the LENGTH of his reviews! C'mon people, get a life! I CAN understand the people who say they're too critical, but when you take into account that Don goes to every show.. he hears Patty's material much better than Patty is hearing it herself. I personally love every part of his reviews. If EVERYTHING was positive, it would get dull wouldn't it? Knowing many musicians, I'm sure Patty has plenty of negative things to say about every one of her performances. That's what makes her continually strive to get better & better, and it's what makes her such an amazing/intense live performer. Dave ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 05:52:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Cathy Wise Subject: MM: PattyGriffinQuestion I have heard about 2 bootleg Patty CD's. If anyone could make me a copy, I'd love to have it. I'm willing to trade if I have anything that interests you. I can trade some rare Tori Amos, Ryan Adams, Belle & Sebastian...and some others. Please e-mail me at cathywise2000@yahoo.com if interested. Thanks, Cathy Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more http://games.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 09:36:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Diane Aylsworth Subject: MM: Tabs? I've found Patty's guitar tabs from her other albums and a few of her songs from 1000 Kisses. I'm still looking for tabs for "Rain," "Be Careful," and "Chief." Can anyone help me? If the rest of you are looking for tabs... here is where I found most of them... http://www.pattygriffin.net/PattyTabs.html or http://members.tripod.com/~Lifey/patty.html Thanks, D Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 13:30:28 EDT From: Jynx419@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: The Ark Don wrote: I had a light jacket & short sleeve shirt on b/c it was almost 90 degrees when I left Pgh 6 days earlier. Fortunately , lister Pam just couldn't stand to see me shivering , & due to her maternal , protective instincts , INSISTED on putting her downy coat around my shoulders , while I watched HER shiver. What a gem that Pam is : ) Don neglected to mention that I took back the coat when I started shivering and left the poor guy with just a scarf. Guess self-preservation was wrestling with my maternal instincts ;). ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 13:33:25 EDT From: FoxDugal@aol.com Subject: MM: Patty shows Has anyone been taping lately? I'm itching for some recent shows... Russ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 18:23:25 +0000 From: "Amy Emerman" Subject: MM: NPC this friday & other amy emerman gigs new york, NY Dear Peeples, I am playing a great show this Friday with three talented singer/songwriters, all with their own unique styles. If you want to come out and support/enjoy the music, please do! It should be a lot of fun. FRIDAY, APRIL 26th @8PM SUN MUSIC COMPANY 340 East 71st St between 1st & 2nd Aves $10 ticket NEW VOICES SHOW w/ Amy Emerman, Elisa Korenne, Kevin Paul & Dylan Nirvana each performer will play a half hour set http://www.sunmusicompany.com SUNDAY, MAY 5th, 7pm CB'S GALLERY Amy Emerman will play an acoustic 40 minute set This is my first time there and the more people who come out, the more likely I will be invited back for a good slot! So, please come to this gig if you can! :-))))))))) $5 cover TUESDAY, JUNE 4th, 7:30 pm C-NOTE, OPEN MIKE FEATURE Amy Emerman will play a half hour set Come early, stay late. If you want to sign up to play at the open mike, come around 5pmish. That's all for now, folks. Hope to see ya at some or all of the shows! _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 15:01:37 -0500 From: "Jessica Boyer" Subject: MM: sorry! would Shelly Johnsons email me please? i think i lost your email address... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 20:39:41 -0400 From: Mike Connell Subject: MM: Patty Griffin and Ben Kweller Live Radio Interviews and Performances 4/26!! The following is the text from the latest ATO Records Street Team e-Newsletter. - Mike :-) Hello Everyone! We wanted to let you know that prior to her sold out performance at the Somerville Theater in Somerville, MA, this Friday, April 26, Patty Griffin will be on 92.5 FM WXRV "The River", at 2:30pm EST. Patty will perform live and be interviewed by Bob Stewart. You may listen to this broadcast from anywhere in the world via the internet by visiting the WXRV website at http://www.wxrv.com/ or http://www.92.5theriver.com/ Also on Friday, Ben Kweller will be on Q101.1 FM WKQX, Chicago at 12:00pm noon CST. Ben will perform live and be interviewed by Nikki. BK supports Dave Matthews Band Friday and Saturday night at The Allstate Arena in Rosemont, IL. Both shows are sold out. We thank you for your continuing support. Please write us with any questions or comments you may have, at streetteam@atorecords.com All the best, Team ATO ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 18:37:18 -0700 From: "Trent Smith" Subject: MM: Greetings/intro Greetings everybody, let me introduce myself. Name: Trent, age: 20-something, location: Los Angeles; I've loved 'Living With Ghosts' since I bought it back in '96 (thank you jewel-list) but haven't at all kept up with Patty's music or career since 'Flaming Red' (which I wasn't too crazy about, alas), until I picked up '1000 Kisses' more or less on a whim a couple weeks ago (it was both sale-priced and prominently displayed at the local Virgin Megastore, and I'm pretty much of a record-buying sucker anyway). So, coming in blind with no foreknowledge and precious few expectations: what a great record! I daresay I'm liking it even better than LWG, and 'Be Careful' is surely one of the prettiest songs I've heard in a long while. This is definitely one of my top releases of 2002 to date (perhaps a little behind 'Princess Superstar Is,' but that's a post for a whole other list ;-)). Anyhow, after having already managed to inadvertently kill off the Jewel list in the past 48 hours (I imagine listdad Mike C. is cringeing to see my name pop up here as well) I'm planning to keep a low profile and hopefully avoid exposing my ignorance any more than necessary -- lurk listen & learn, so to speak. But I do have a couple of minor questions: 1) 'Tomorrow Night' is a cover of the same standard that Elvis recorded back in his very early days, right? Why then is there no writer/publisher info in the liner notes? Has the song become PD? I only notice this from vague professional-related interest, since I'm currently working in the music publishing/licensing biz. 2) Does anybody else find it wicked f**king hard to refold the CD booklet into its original shape, or am I the only one anal-retentive enough to even try? Trent n/p: Patty Griffin, "1000 Kisses," natch' P.S. 'Reprise' reminds me somehow of the soundtrack music from Hal Hartley's movies (especially 'Simple Men'). Has anyone else noticed this, or am I just imagining things? ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V6 #156 *********************************