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A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V6 #___ gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. mad-mission-digest Thursday, April 18 2002 Volume 06 : Number 144 Today's Subjects: ----------------- MM: Borders/Park West [MactheMutt@aol.com] MM: Re: Borders/Park West ["Jon Crouse" ] Re: MM: Long time, no post! [fotographix ] MM: RE: Borders/Park West ["Jason & Jennifer Burton" ] MM: Louisville ["Don Henn" ] MM: Patty article in Chicago Sun-Times [Balmoon@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 02:10:05 EDT From: MactheMutt@aol.com Subject: MM: Borders/Park West Saw Patty today at Borders and at the Park West. Her voice is just awesome..no other way to describe it, she is flawless. I enjoyed the Borders performance of "Making Pies" so much I got goosebumbs. That's my fave song off 1M Kisses...."You can cry or die...or just make pies all day"....I love that line. "Mil Besos" at PW was very cool and got, probably the most enthusiastic response from the crowd and as Dave mentioned..Waits' "Ruby's Arms" was beautiful. She also did Stolen Car, Chief, Rain, Long Ride Home and (encore) Tommorrow Night off the new CD. I was dissapointed not to hear..."Reprise" (hee hee) Patty was gorgeous and charming. Her band on the other hand seemed to be kind of ...not clicking, not near as tight as they were on ACL or West54th...and please somebody...get that girl a drummer. Doug Lancio was doing his best The Edge (U2) impersonation, his style sounds so much like 80's U2 it's scary...but for a band that's been playing together as long as they have been...they seemed to be a little "off". "Mary" did not sound a whole lot like "Mary"...'cept for the lyrics. On one song, Lancio and the Cello player Brian Standefer (BTW Brian..."killer boots man") seemed to simultaneously break into a solo at the same time. (redundant?) Ramos..the Accordian/Keyboardist ran out of juice in his accordian and had to borrow a battery from Doug in the middle of a song and worst of all....Patty broke the high E string on her Gibson towards the beginning of the show, and used another guitar the rest of the night. PLUS, I coulda used a couple more Flaming Red songs, altho I gotta admit..."Flaming Red" without drums wasn't near as good. Sounds like I'm complaining...but really...my wife and I both enjoyed the day. First time I've seen her live and MAN..is she LITTLE! I love it when a little woman like that can just BELT out the songs. That girl has some pipes. Oh yeah, my wife told me the band sounded fine to her. At Borders I tried to get one of those 1M Kisses Posters off the wall but the INFO girl said I couldn't have one...then some guy walked by with a cardboard folder full of them, pulled one out and handed it to a young girl.....so I say, "Hey, what chance do I have to get one of those from you?" and he says..."Oh no, I need all these. Sorry". Butthead...so I didn't get ANYTHING signed. Then at Park West they were selling them for 10 bucks...10 BUCKS!..I dont think so. We met a couple girls from this list there, but didn't get their names. Oh yeah..the opening act, Mike Fiasco (whatever his last name is) has a great voice but wasn't too good solo. I was sitting front row and could hear as much of the audience talking as I could hear him playing. People were a little rude and I was waiting for him to tell everybody to shut-up but he never did....probably like you all want me to shut up now. So I will. Randy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 07:23:09 -0500 From: "Jon Crouse" Subject: MM: Re: Borders/Park West Pan the performance all you want but I don't think he deserves to have his name butchered... F-r-a-c-a-s-s-o - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 1:10 AM Subject: MM: Borders/Park West > Saw Patty today at Borders and at the Park West. Her voice is just > awesome..no other way to describe it, she is flawless. I enjoyed the Borders > performance of "Making Pies" so much I got goosebumbs. That's my fave song > off 1M Kisses...."You can cry or die...or just make pies all day"....I love > that line. "Mil Besos" at PW was very cool and got, probably the most > enthusiastic response from the crowd and as Dave mentioned..Waits' "Ruby's > Arms" was beautiful. She also did Stolen Car, Chief, Rain, Long Ride Home and > (encore) Tommorrow Night off the new CD. I was dissapointed not to > hear..."Reprise" (hee hee) Patty was gorgeous and charming. > Her band on the other hand seemed to be kind of ...not clicking, not near as > tight as they were on ACL or West54th...and please somebody...get that girl a > drummer. Doug Lancio was doing his best The Edge (U2) impersonation, his > style sounds so much like 80's U2 it's scary...but for a band that's been > playing together as long as they have been...they seemed to be a little > "off". "Mary" did not sound a whole lot like "Mary"...'cept for the lyrics. > On one song, Lancio and the Cello player Brian Standefer (BTW Brian..."killer > boots man") seemed to simultaneously break into a solo at the same time. > (redundant?) Ramos..the Accordian/Keyboardist ran out of juice in his > accordian and had to borrow a battery from Doug in the middle of a song and > worst of all....Patty broke the high E string on her Gibson towards the > beginning of the show, and used another guitar the rest of the night. PLUS, I > coulda used a couple more Flaming Red songs, altho I gotta admit..."Flaming > Red" without drums wasn't near as good. > Sounds like I'm complaining...but really...my wife and I both enjoyed the > day. First time I've seen her live and MAN..is she LITTLE! I love it when a > little woman like that can just BELT out the songs. That girl has some pipes. > Oh yeah, my wife told me the band sounded fine to her. > At Borders I tried to get one of those 1M Kisses Posters off the wall but the > INFO girl said I couldn't have one...then some guy walked by with a cardboard > folder full of them, pulled one out and handed it to a young girl.....so I > say, "Hey, what chance do I have to get one of those from you?" and he > says..."Oh no, I need all these. Sorry". Butthead...so I didn't get ANYTHING > signed. Then at Park West they were selling them for 10 bucks...10 BUCKS!..I > dont think so. > We met a couple girls from this list there, but didn't get their names. > Oh yeah..the opening act, Mike Fiasco (whatever his last name is) has a great > voice but wasn't too good solo. I was sitting front row and could hear as > much of the audience talking as I could hear him playing. People were a > little rude and I was waiting for him to tell everybody to shut-up but he > never did....probably like you all want me to shut up now. So I will. > Randy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 07:20:15 -0700 (PDT) From: fotographix Subject: Re: MM: Long time, no post! ... she isn't THE Christina, is she? that would be pretty neat. - -foto Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 11:00:40 -0500 From: "Jason & Jennifer Burton" Subject: MM: RE: Borders/Park West <> I was having the exact same thought last night. At one point I honestly thought he was launching into "Sunday Bloody Sunday". <> No way! I thought they did just fine without one. <<.Patty broke the high E string on her Gibson towards the beginning of the show, and used another guitar the rest of the night.>> Yeah...I was a little surprised there was no one in the wings to change a guitar string for her?? <<"Flaming Red" without drums wasn't near as good.>>\ Once again I must disagree. I thought it gained a new intensity. It takes a great artist to not have to hide behind a rhythm section for "fast" songs, and Patty pulled it off beautifully. I enjoyed everything, but hearing the LWG songs reminded me of what attracted me to Patty initially. "Poor Man's House" is still amazing...I was close to tears. Ditto "Sweet Lorraine". Here's the set list in no particular order: Chief Making Pies Rain Long Ride Home Stolen Car Flaming Red Poor Man's House You Never Get What You Want Ruby's Arms Carry Me Mary Sweet Lorraine Let Him Fly Mad Mission Mil Besos Tomorrow Night An awesome show all in all! Jason www.creekdipping.com - Victoria Williams & Mark Olson www.singlecollector.com - Hard to find CDs - -----Original Message----- From: owner-mad-mission@smoe.org [mailto:owner-mad-mission@smoe.org]On Behalf Of MactheMutt@aol.com Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 1:10 AM To: mad-mission@smoe.org Subject: MM: Borders/Park West Saw Patty today at Borders and at the Park West. Her voice is just awesome..no other way to describe it, she is flawless. I enjoyed the Borders performance of "Making Pies" so much I got goosebumbs. That's my fave song off 1M Kisses...."You can cry or die...or just make pies all day"....I love that line. "Mil Besos" at PW was very cool and got, probably the most enthusiastic response from the crowd and as Dave mentioned..Waits' "Ruby's Arms" was beautiful. She also did Stolen Car, Chief, Rain, Long Ride Home and (encore) Tommorrow Night off the new CD. I was dissapointed not to hear..."Reprise" (hee hee) Patty was gorgeous and charming. Her band on the other hand seemed to be kind of ...not clicking, not near as tight as they were on ACL or West54th...and please somebody...get that girl a drummer. Doug Lancio was doing his best The Edge (U2) impersonation, his style sounds so much like 80's U2 it's scary...but for a band that's been playing together as long as they have been...they seemed to be a little "off". "Mary" did not sound a whole lot like "Mary"...'cept for the lyrics. On one song, Lancio and the Cello player Brian Standefer (BTW Brian..."killer boots man") seemed to simultaneously break into a solo at the same time. (redundant?) Ramos..the Accordian/Keyboardist ran out of juice in his accordian and had to borrow a battery from Doug in the middle of a song and worst of all....Patty broke the high E string on her Gibson towards the beginning of the show, and used another guitar the rest of the night. PLUS, I coulda used a couple more Flaming Red songs, altho I gotta admit..."Flaming Red" without drums wasn't near as good. Sounds like I'm complaining...but really...my wife and I both enjoyed the day. First time I've seen her live and MAN..is she LITTLE! I love it when a little woman like that can just BELT out the songs. That girl has some pipes. Oh yeah, my wife told me the band sounded fine to her. At Borders I tried to get one of those 1M Kisses Posters off the wall but the INFO girl said I couldn't have one...then some guy walked by with a cardboard folder full of them, pulled one out and handed it to a young girl.....so I say, "Hey, what chance do I have to get one of those from you?" and he says..."Oh no, I need all these. Sorry". Butthead...so I didn't get ANYTHING signed. Then at Park West they were selling them for 10 bucks...10 BUCKS!..I dont think so. We met a couple girls from this list there, but didn't get their names. Oh yeah..the opening act, Mike Fiasco (whatever his last name is) has a great voice but wasn't too good solo. I was sitting front row and could hear as much of the audience talking as I could hear him playing. People were a little rude and I was waiting for him to tell everybody to shut-up but he never did....probably like you all want me to shut up now. So I will. Randy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 09:37:16 -0700 From: "Marc Hertz" Subject: MM: Patty on the Billboard Album list Just wanted to let everyone know that 1000 Kisses is 101 on the most recent Billboard 200 list, and, perhaps more impressively, Patty's secured the 7th spot on the Internet Sales list for the week, finishing right behind the Goo Goo Dolls' new release. Here's the link: http://www.billboard.com/billboard/charts/internet.jsp Way to go, Patty! Marc _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 12:33:55 -0400 From: "Jennifer Caputo" Subject: MM: message for patty Hey guys, i don't know what happened to the message for patty forum but it got seriously corrupted. I'm sorry but if you could all repost your messages that would be great. I've salvaged about the first 10 to post (with help from Sanders) and whatever is still there now is ok too but if you think you were in between that somehow please repost your message in the new message for Patty forum by Saturday night!! - Thanks jen http://www.pattygriffin.net/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=gener ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 13:24:12 -0400 From: "Don Henn" Subject: MM: Louisville MMers , Headliners Music Hall is no "listening room". At first glance it looks like a party room. When the crowd was filling the place up it sounded like a party room. And when Patty launched into "Mad- Mission" , it WAS a party room , with about 5 of Patty's female fans singing & doing a line dance in front of me. Thanks to Sanders for the set list. I was feeling pretty punk , due to lack of (sleep , that is : ) , so I sat on the soundboard platform about halfway back. Didn't see much of the stage action , & missed the moment Sanders described when Doug raised his guitar. At one point , I was looking at the floor , listening , & a woman nearby remarked to me ; "oh , she is really good ! " I believe she thought that I wasn't paying attention , & was trying to draw me into the music. I looked up & said ; "oh no , she's MUCH better than that". Patty announced that the show was the OFFICIAL START OF THE TOUR , so the party mood was definitely appropriate. The first 3 were pretty consistent with what Patty's been doing. They've been played often at the concerts & in-store appearances. Vocals & music excellent , & complementary. The music for "Chief" & "Rain" have been growing on me by leaps & bounds , & Patty's vocals on "Rain" always have that trademark intensity of hers."Long Ride Home" was excellent , but still had me longing for the old arrangement.The vocals were outstanding on "Stolen Car" but I'm hooked on the sound Doug created at Rams Head , with the guitar being slow , low to medium volume , & haunting. This time it was faster & louder , with the haunting sound overpowered. The main thing I remember about "Flaming Red" is that she ended it with higher notes , instead of trailing off with a whisper. Sounded good. As it used to happen when she played with the band (as opposed to "ensemble" ) , things seem to pick up when she goes into her solo set. "You Never Get What You Want" was great , & with FR , picked up the party atmosphere again. "Poor Man's House" was powerful , & reminded all what a great stand-alone act Patty is. Great vocals on "Goodbye" , but another of Patty's songs where I think , the less music , the better. The music was very different for "Tony" than what I've heard before. I preferred the old arrangement for the most part , but there were a few places where I would describe Doug's guitar rhythms as "urgent" , & thought that the sound fit the song like a glove. As Sanders mentioned , things seemed to change after Patty broke her string , & said it's all about having fun. She seemed more relaxed , & it also seemed to be the cue for the audience to break out in full party mode when "Mad-Mission" started. The line dancers were just the most obvious , it was party time throughout. During MM , I noticed that every one seemed to be having fun but me. I'm sitting there intellectualizing - what do i like ? what don't I like ? what's good ? what's bad ? what's right ? what's wrong ? -makes me nuts ! So I decided I was making it all too important , & relaxed into my old mode of enjoying the music , & noticing only the impressions that came to me unprompted. Patty's vocals seemed to be even better through the finish , & the high point of the night for me was "Ruby's Arms" & "Sweet Lorraine". A new Patty song always gets my rapt attention , & I stood up for "Ruby's Arms". Sensual & beautiful , right up Patty's alley. I was hoping it was a new Patty composition , but it was Tom Waits , who Patty also covers on "Take it With Me". From there , she showed her incredible ability to shift range on a dime , going into as powerful a version of "Sweet Lorraine" as I can recall. Funny thing. I didn't get any while I was there (sleep that is :) , but I felt a lot better when I left. Ain't nothing left at all In the end of being proud Patty Griffin "Long Ride Home" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 13:54:32 -0400 From: Balmoon@aol.com Subject: MM: Patty article in Chicago Sun-Times Just came across this online article: http://www.suntimes.com/output/music/cst-ftr-patty17.html Patty Griffin gets past rough spots April 17, 2002 BY BOBBY REED Patty Griffin refers to her experiences with record labels as a "trail of fire.'' It's an apt description. Though her work has been consistently splendid, she has had to travel along some treacherous paths to get her albums released. Her third disc, "1,000 Kisses'' (ATO), which arrived in stores Tuesday, features all of Griffin's hallmarks: finely wrought tales of compelling characters, emotionally charged vocals and memorable melodies. While her first two albums consisted solely of original songs, Griffin breaks the pattern here. In addition to the traditional song "Tomorrow Night,'' she also covers the Spanish-language standard "Mil Besos,'' which, via an English translation, provides the album's title. Griffin also delivers a brutally austere rendition of Bruce Springsteen's 1980 ballad "Stolen Car.'' Interviewed during a tour stop last week in Boston, Griffin described her decision to include other artists' songs. "In my mind, I'm first and foremost a singer,'' she said. "I've been singing other people's songs my whole life. There are certain places you can go--through the melodic ideas and lyrical ideas that other people present--which I just don't get to naturally. The space and simplicity of 'Stolen Car' are difficult things to achieve in songwriting. It's just wonderful to get to sing something like that.'' Tonight, her tour brings her to the Park West (she also will do an in-store performance at 12:30 p.m. today at Borders, 830 N. Michigan). In concert, she will be joined by three backing musicians who carry sparkling resumes: longtime guitarist Doug Lancio (who played with Steve Earle and Nanci Griffith), keyboardist Michael Ramos (Joe Ely, Paul Simon) and cellist Brian Standefer (Alejandro Escovedo). Griffin's own songwriting has landed her some high-powered fans. Her work has been recorded by Mary Chapin Carpenter, Emmylou Harris, Martina McBride, Reba McEntire, Bette Midler and the Dixie Chicks, who had a huge hit with "Let Him Fly.'' Hefty royalty checks, combined with touring, have allowed the 38-year-old Griffin to make a comfortable living. Still, the native of Old Town, Maine, would like to raise her profile. With a self-deprecating laugh, she admitted, "It would be nice to sell some records.'' In the mid-1990s, Griffin was signed to the major label A&M on the basis of a spare, soulful demo tape. At the label's request, she recorded a high-budget debut, but staffers "hated'' it. Dejected and exhausted, Griffin asked A&M to release her solo acoustic demos as the finished album. The result was the critically acclaimed 1996 gem "Living With Ghosts.'' Griffin eventually established a great rapport with A&M, which released her textured, full-band album "Flaming Red'' in 1998. Around this time, the label entered a chaotic period of corporate reshuffling, which hindered the marketing of her second disc. More bad luck came when Polygram, parent label of A&M, merged with Universal, effectively eliminating A&M. In 2000, Griffin recorded another album, "Silver Bell,'' but it remains unreleased. She has since parted ways with Universal, leaving that album in legal limbo. The disc contains "The Top of the World,'' which is one of Griffin's finest works and a highlight of her concerts. After these ordeals, it's easy to see why Griffin would be drawn to ATO, an artist-friendly label run by singer Dave Matthews that includes David Gray, Gov't Mule and Chris Whitley on its roster. Griffin is ecstatic about her new label and remains clear-eyed about her experience with Universal. "The money that's being output there is so enormous that there's just no room for risk-taking or artist development. There's no possibility for it. They need their little test marketers and that sort of thing. I don't know what it's like to be under the weight of that [amount of] debt, so I couldn't say that I wouldn't be acting the same way that they're acting.'' Free-lance writer Bobby Reed covers country and roots music for the Sun-Times. 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