From: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org (mad-mission-digest) To: mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Subject: mad-mission-digest V6 #127 Reply-To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sender: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * mad-mission-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Patty's tour dates, go to: * http://www.pattygriffin.net/PattyInConcert.html * OR * go to http://www.atorecords.com * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V6 #___ gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. mad-mission-digest Thursday, April 11 2002 Volume 06 : Number 127 Today's Subjects: ----------------- MM: one day i'll catch up... [adamk@zoom.co.uk] Re: MM: one day i'll catch up... [aadler@juno.com] MM: Conan [Amy Leonard ] MM: The Quality-Quantity of David Tumbarello [m waldman ] MM: 1000 kisses on headphones/conan show [RbSayre@aol.com] MM: Christmas in April? ["Sanders" ] Re: MM: Christmas in April? [LouAnn Muhm ] MM: Attention all - from the list manager - RE: Christmas in April? ["Con] MM: new to list ["will" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 08:18:00 +0100 (BST) From: adamk@zoom.co.uk Subject: MM: one day i'll catch up... Just ordered 10,000 Kisses yesterday, so in the meantime I have noooo idea what everybody has been talking about (have never seen her live, either, which also doesn't help). I also ordered the new Eliza Gilkyson, because her last one, Hard Times in Babylon, was absolutely beautiful, one of my faves of the year -- Patty singing on it is an unexpected bonus! Oh, and I've never gotten into mp3's (with no broadband, a 56k connection takes hours to download a single song, making it somewhat prohibitive) so if a Silver Bells tree ever gets going, sign me up! Looking forward to a good time, adam k. Get your own zoom email - click here - http://www.zoom.co.uk/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 00:25:45 -0700 From: aadler@juno.com Subject: Re: MM: one day i'll catch up... What? Adam gets 9000 more kisses than the rest of us? What gives? Is there some sort of currency conversion I'm not aware of where 1 American kiss equals 10 British ones? Just curious.... ; P Aaron On Thu, 11 Apr 2002 08:18:00 +0100 (BST) adamk@zoom.co.uk writes: > Just ordered 10,000 Kisses yesterday, so in the meantime I > have noooo idea what everybody has been talking about (have > never seen her live, either, which also doesn't help). I > also ordered the new Eliza Gilkyson, because her last one, > Hard Times in Babylon, was absolutely beautiful, one of my > faves of the year -- Patty singing on it is an unexpected > bonus! > > Oh, and I've never gotten into mp3's (with no broadband, a > 56k connection takes hours to download a single song, > making it somewhat prohibitive) so if a Silver Bells tree > ever gets going, sign me up! > > Looking forward to a good time, > > adam k. > > Get your own zoom email - click here - http://www.zoom.co.uk/ > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 01:37:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Amy Leonard Subject: MM: Conan Hey, Amazing job done by Patty on Conan!!! Rain was just beautiful! Vary rare you can hear a pin drop on one of these shows, but you could during this song--great stuff! God those guys can play and Patty's voice was awesome! God I wish she'd come to the West Coast! And, sheesh, Patty looks hot! Oh I'm in awe! Later, Amy Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 01:51:41 -0700 From: m waldman Subject: MM: The Quality-Quantity of David Tumbarello The various interpretive threads (my hat's off to David T. for his lucid interpretation of "Top of the World") are wonderful. If music is not inspirational, what's the real point? Some are inspired to write about the music, some of us will sing along, others will reflect on the parallels b/w the song and their own life, and on and on. The exception, of course, is music that inspires us to turn off the radio, shut a door on the offending noise, stuff a sock in the mouth of an awful warbler. So, that's really not an exception at all, for the music has inspired us to take action, even if it means shutting it down. Nevertheless, I like the tunes I can carry with me, not the music that abrades. Now, as for a seemingly abbreviated album, PG recorded it in, what, six days? I can't believe she was able to record 39 minutes of music in such a short time. Here's the deal: Do you like those 39 minutes? When you see her live, do you enjoy those 12 songs? Me, I would throw down the cost of an album for just three or four of her songs. I would drive fifty miles and pay for parking and a theater ticket to see her perform those same few songs live. Instead, I feel grateful for the fifty plus songs she has given this world. Also, I'm tired of filler music. I don't need 31 more minutes of material just to fill a CD to capacity. Let us accept the present reality of the situation and try to enjoy what we've been given thus far. There are reasons, I'm sure, for "only" 39 minutes of music. Read thru the threads: PG has, unwittingly or not, given more since Flaming Red than the material on 1000 Kisses. Silver Bell is out there; live boots are out there. This is music that cost PG something; it hardly costs us anything but material costs, which are minimal. And, none of that money is going back to her. Maybe Silver Bell she just left in the past and took from it what remained useful to her. It ain't any fun to be dropped by a label --- it's a vote of no confidence and shouts out to the musicians that their label doesn't get them and can't make money off the music. That, my friends, is the entertainment business: music, TV, movies, internet. Perhaps we can look forward to an ATO library built up by artists we like or at least respect. Quality: you wouldn't be reading this if you didn't think the world of PG. Quantity: I'd rather have 39 minutes of aural pleasure, than 70 to 80 minutes of mediocre pap. What pleases me most is that she didn't fade, give up, retire. That would have made for "a whole lot of singing That's never gonna be heard Disappearing every day Without so much as a word". Eh, Mr. Tumbarello? By the way, Living With Ghosts clocks in at just over 38 minutes. Now, with that one, I feel cheated. ...kidding .... just kidding. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 05:22:00 -0400 From: Amanda4865@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: Interpretation of Top of the World I seem to recall Patty saying that this song was about her grandfather when I saw her touring for Flaming Red. Has anyone else heard this or am I remembering incorrectly? amanda ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 05:32:42 -0400 From: Amanda4865@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: Conan She was terrific (the band, too). Conan seemed very impressed. For anyone who missed it, most NBC affiliates rerun The Tonight Show and Late Night in the overnight time period, only delayed a week. So next Wednesday (Thursday a.m.) at 3:35 EST you should be able to catch the show again. She'll probably come on around 4:25-4:30. amanda Amy Leonard writes: > >Amazing job done by Patty on Conan!!! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 11:47:33 +0100 (BST) From: "=?iso-8859-1?q?Ma'eee?=" Subject: Fwd: Re: MM: Silver Bell Tree?? B***T##D telecom! Note: forwarded message attached. Ditto about possible silver bell tree. I'm on a single channel ISDN (64K) at home. BT want 8p a minute to run at 128K and they don't do ADSL in my area, just everywhere outside a half mile radius from our house! They should rename themselves Bastard Telecom EM Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: mantabirostrisuk@yahoo.co.uk via web13101.mail.yahoo.com; 11 Apr 2002 00:29:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Track: 1: 40 Return-Path: Received: from jane.smoe.org (EHLO smoe.org) (66.89.201.78) by mta301.mail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Apr 2002 00:29:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smoe.org (ident-user@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smoe.org (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g3B7T1VU005502 for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2002 03:29:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by smoe.org (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g3B7T0fM005499 for mad-mission-outgoing; Thu, 11 Apr 2002 03:29:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m10.boston.juno.com (m10.boston.juno.com [64.136.24.73]) by smoe.org (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g3B7SwVU002236 for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2002 03:28:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cookie.juno.com by cookie.juno.com for <"/VTfJlBbaT+43/vfKPu+0aEeVcYcq7xlnTG8xMe7lPqz6p/cP88acA=="> Received: (from aadler@juno.com) by m10.boston.juno.com (jqueuemail) id GX4MRHQQ; Thu, 11 Apr 2002 03:24:17 EDT To: mad-mission@smoe.org Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 00:25:45 -0700 Subject: Re: MM: one day i'll catch up... X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.33 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: aadler@juno.com Sender: owner-mad-mission@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 741 What? Adam gets 9000 more kisses than the rest of us? What gives? Is there some sort of currency conversion I'm not aware of where 1 American kiss equals 10 British ones? Just curious.... ; P Aaron On Thu, 11 Apr 2002 08:18:00 +0100 (BST) adamk@zoom.co.uk writes: > Just ordered 10,000 Kisses yesterday, so in the meantime I > have noooo idea what everybody has been talking about (have > never seen her live, either, which also doesn't help). I > also ordered the new Eliza Gilkyson, because her last one, > Hard Times in Babylon, was absolutely beautiful, one of my > faves of the year -- Patty singing on it is an unexpected > bonus! > > Oh, and I've never gotten into mp3's (with no broadband, a > 56k connection takes hours to download a single song, > making it somewhat prohibitive) so if a Silver Bells tree > ever gets going, sign me up! > > Looking forward to a good time, > > adam k. > > Get your own zoom email - click here - http://www.zoom.co.uk/ > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 22:31:46 -0700 From: Pamela Pollock Subject: MM: 1000 kisses Today I got heartbreaking news about a loved one. When I got home from work, there was 1000 Kisses in my mailbox. I've been listening to the CD all evening. Patty's song-her voice-have brought a measure of comfort to me. The power of music her is amazing. 1000 Kisses is gorgeous. Thank you, Patty! P.S. 1000 Kisses is #11 on Amazon's top sellers list. Way to go! - -- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 01:44:24 EDT From: RbSayre@aol.com Subject: MM: 1000 kisses on headphones/conan show Lisa writes: << Ok, after listening to the cd again, and not with headphones, it sounds VERY different. I do like it a lot more now. I just can't listen to it on my discman...her voice is way too powerful for it. >> This is really interesting to me. I've been hearing 1000 Kisses for the last 2 weeks or so over the speakers at my work & when I bought the album yesterday and heard it on my headphones, I was really much more blown away than I had been before. There's something about Patty's music (particularly Living with Ghosts & apparently now with 1000 Kisses) that is so beautiful & intimate that I prefer to hear it on my headphones & really become enveloped by the music. Gosh that sounded really new agey & spacy, but I'll go the Drew Barrymore route & say that I'm finding 1000 Kisses "beautiful" and "magical"! I just saw Patty on Conan & I am *so* happy I stayed up late for it. It's the first time that I've seen Patty outside of her album photos- She's so striking, the song is wonderful & I am all the more disappointed that, living in the cultural black hole that is Miami, I will probably not get to see her play live anytime soon! And on a shallow note? The cello player is really cute. Time for me to go to bed. :) I'm enjoying everyone's show stories! peace, rick *in youth it was a way i had to do my best to please, and change with every passing lad, to suit his theories. but now i know the things i know & do the things i do; and if you do not like me so, to hell, my love, with you!* -dorothy parker let's face it kids... rick's webpage ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 07:08:38 -0500 From: "Sanders" Subject: MM: Christmas in April? To Whom It May Concern: I just made a copy of "Silver Bell" for somebody I met at the recent Nashville show who was dying for a copy. Anyway, I got on a burning frenzy while I was at it, and I burned 10 copies. So, if you do not have a copy of Silver Bell and would like one, email me a mailing address, and the first ten people I hear from will have a copy in the mail heading there way. Take care and have a good day. - - Sanders ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 07:22:41 -0500 From: LouAnn Muhm Subject: Re: MM: Christmas in April? Sanders--my email to you bounced back. so sorrry to all on the list but ZI am sending this to mad mission in hopes that you will get it. Thanks. Wow! LouAnn Muhm PO Box 405 Park Rapids, MN 56470 Hope I get one! Thanks!!! > From: "Sanders" > Organization: dtpx design > Reply-To: > Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 07:08:38 -0500 > To: > Subject: MM: Christmas in April? > > To Whom It May Concern: > > I just made a copy of "Silver Bell" for somebody I met at the recent > Nashville show who was dying for a copy. Anyway, I got on a burning > frenzy while I was at it, and I burned 10 copies. So, if you do not have > a copy of Silver Bell and would like one, email me a mailing address, > and the first ten people I hear from will have a copy in the mail > heading there way. Take care and have a good day. > > - Sanders ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 08:44:39 -0400 From: "Connell, Michael P" Subject: MM: Attention all - from the list manager - RE: Christmas in April? > I just made a copy of "Silver Bell" for somebody I met at the recent > Nashville show who was dying for a copy. Anyway, I got on a burning > frenzy while I was at it, and I burned 10 copies. So, if you do not have > a copy of Silver Bell and would like one, email me a mailing address, > and the first ten people I hear from will have a copy in the mail > heading there way. As I had said before, assuming this is an advance copy of THE Silver Bell, list members CANNOT offer copies on this list. Doing so is pirating and a MAJOR copyright violation that the record companies, artists and their management are very much so on the warpath about. This falls into a very different category than the normal trading lists do of audience recordings, broadcasts etc. This is the illegal distributing of an actual album. This would include the promo of Silver Bell. However, if this offer is a "pseudo Silver Bell", same songs culled from audience recording, broadcasts etc, then it is OK, but again, if it is a clone of THE Silver Bell, DO NOT OFFER COPIES ON THIS LIST. Period. I hate to be an "ogre", but believe me, based on my experiences running other lists where the management and record companies were on the list, and based on my actual telephone conversations with the RIAA, this is for the protection of this list, its' members, and our relationship with Patty's management. Mike - MM list manager (from my work email address) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 09:26:33 -0400 From: "will" Subject: MM: new to list Hi all, Well I've been trying to not add yet another music or trade list to my activities, but with Patty's upcoming show at Calvin College, I couldn't resist. Hi, my name is Will and I'm in Michigan. Looking forward to Patty's show next week friday at Calvin. I saw her there two years ago in a wonderful but too short a set...but then I'm selfish that way :-) Honestly, I think the venue had technical difficulties with a speaker and had to repair it between the opening and Patty's set, causing a late start and shorter appearance perhaps. I was pleased to learn my recording of that show was circulated here. I thought it turned out well and am glad to share it with those that would appreciate it. In anticipation of the show I've been listening to a lot of PG this past week or so. The Calvin 2000 show, Ark 2001 (thanks Dana) and Living with Ghosts...I must listen to that more often! I first discovered Patty while strolling through a local Best Buy store. I don't recall the date or year even, but it must have been shortly after the release of LWG. They had new CDs displayed with headphones for listening. I'll admit to being drawn by the attractive woman on the cover. I was awestruck while listening...and wondered, why haven't I heard of her before? Yesterday I picked up 1,000 Kisses at Circuit City and listened to it on the drive home, then once again on the home system to give it proper justice. I think it's just beautiful. On the Patty/pets thread...while listening to it at home I opened the windows to allow some long overdue warm air in, and no joke, immediately after "Nobody's Crying" the neighbor's dog begins to howl. What does Patty's band consist of on this tour? What instruments? A taper likes to know these things in advance ;-) Glad to be a part of the group and look forward to reading your thoughts, insights and reviews. Take good care, Will ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V6 #127 *********************************