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A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V6 #___ gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. mad-mission-digest Wednesday, April 10 2002 Volume 06 : Number 126 Today's Subjects: ----------------- MM: Re: Re: Re: Joe's Pub April 9 ["Lisa Zwick" ] MM: 1000 Kisses ["Lisa Zwick" ] MM: Why Patty Rules [Gary Jacques ] MM: Re: RE: question ["zeeke5" ] MM: 1000 kisses [amber bass-patterson ] MM: hand movements [ShmephSasso@aol.com] MM: Re: Meaning of Long Ride Home ["Gary Jacques" ] Re: MM: Pets and Patty ["Sarah Stanley" ] Re: MM: CD Universe Order? ["Melissa Fisk" ] Re: MM: Pets and Patty ["Gary Jacques" ] MM: Jibberish ["Jamie Petta" ] Re: MM: Re: question [Danalee7@aol.com] Re: MM: Meaning of Long Ride Home [Danalee7@aol.com] MM: Amazon review of 1000 Kisses [Cynthia Courtney ] MM: Re: Pets and Patty ["Sean and Rebecca Courtney" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 15:06:18 -0400 From: "Lisa Zwick" Subject: MM: Re: Re: Re: Joe's Pub April 9 Well i don't remember exactly which songs she did it with, but it looked to me like she was flapping her wings...and at the time i thought it was very funny...butthis time it wasn't as awkward. Btw...am i the only one who likes the Reprise? - -Lisa - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 3:01 PM Subject: MM: Re: Re: Joe's Pub April 9 > Would the trying to fly thing be like the thing she did at the end of Blue > Sky during the Dixie Chicks shows? If it is, it did seem strange, but it > definitly made people pay some kind of attention to her, which is always a > good thing. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Lisa Zwick > To: mad-mission > Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 11:48 AM > Subject: MM: Re: Joe's Pub April 9 > > > > I also thought at first that it seemed strange...but then I remembered her > > trying to fly at the Dixie Chicks concert, and I figured it's just that > she > > needs something to do with her hands when she's not playing. It kinda grew > > on me tho. It showed that she wasn't just singing the words, but she was > > listening to them as well. > > > > And I guess what you saw as nervousness I saw as passion...I thought she'd > > pop a blood vessel the way she seemed to be so into it...but then again, I > > have nothing to compare it to. > > > > -Lisa > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 11:45 PM > > Subject: MM: Joe's Pub April 9 > > > > > Tony (I was SHOCKED when she started to play this) - Did anybody else > find > > > her movements a little awkward or out of character on this one. I was > > > thrilled to hear it live (I kind of never thought I would). ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 15:11:41 -0400 From: "Lisa Zwick" Subject: MM: 1000 Kisses Ok, after listening to the cd again, and not with headphones, it sounds VERY different. I do like it a lot more now. I just can't listen to it on my discman...her voice is way too powerful for it. Rain is still by far my favorite...no question about it. And Mil Besos, I enjoyed it a lot more at Joe's...it was more lively, and she seemed to be really enjoying herself playing around with her "torpedo." - -Lisa ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 10:39:14 -0400 From: Gary Jacques Subject: MM: Why Patty Rules May your dream you are dreaming in a warm soft bed May the voices inside you that fill you with dread Make the sounds of thousands of angels instead Tonight where you might be laying your head Nobodys Cryin' Patty Griffin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 16:29:04 -0700 From: "zeeke5" Subject: MM: Re: RE: question my store had at least 12 racked and displayed .... HMV in Toronto area zeeke ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 15:18:09 -0500 From: amber bass-patterson Subject: MM: 1000 kisses although it is too short (what do you expect for 6 days?), i am still loving 1000 kisses. my only complaint, and it's entirely my own fault, is that only 2 songs are really new to me. however, blu, my 3 yo daughter told me "i like the other patty jean (flaming red) better." what can i say, she likes her rock n roll! amber "Through Movement We Find Health" The Nia Technique ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 17:20:27 EDT From: ShmephSasso@aol.com Subject: MM: hand movements My impressions of those "flight-like" hand motions. At the Dixie Chicks she seemed to use that on Blue Sky, and particularly on Carry Me. I found them to be quite effective on those songs. Also, when I saw her at the Birchmere (this is the performance that spoiled me and made me more on the critical side of the Joe's performance) she was a lot less nervous, and I felt she committed more to the motions, so they worked better. I actually LOVE the arm flying thing on Carry Me. But, on some songs last night it just didn't work as well, plus her nervousness didn't help. The low point was on Tony. Those motions just had to go. Stephanie ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 17:38:54 -0400 From: "Gary Jacques" Subject: MM: Re: Meaning of Long Ride Home YES!!! Correct! It is about a man at his wife's funeral and home after the funeral. I think it says " we made ourselves the best of plans" Then again, maybe he got laid.I'm not sure. Evil Gary - ----- Original Message ----- From: Laura Taylor To: Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 1:04 PM Subject: MM: Meaning of Long Ride Home > I read in the article last week from an Austin newspaper that the > interviewer (and many people) automatically think "long ride home" is > about a wife at her husbands funeral. am i the only one who thinks > it's about a man at his wife funeral? > > "one day i took your tiny hand > put your finger in the wedding band > your daddy gave a piece of land > we laid ourselves the best of plans" > > and thoughts? > -lt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 18:32:23 -0400 From: "Lisa Zwick" Subject: MM: Pets and Patty Ok, i know I'm posting a bit much today...but... Earlier someone mentioned that their cat liked Patty. Well, I put 1000 Kisses on in the living room, and first I saw her standing on the couch, trying to stretch herself over to the stereo, then she went and lay down on the floor beneath it, and now she's sleeping, purring happily on the couch. I think she likes it ;) - -Lisa ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 19:04:58 -0400 From: "Sarah Stanley" Subject: Re: MM: Pets and Patty >Earlier someone mentioned that their cat liked Patty. :) yay! that was me (the cat comment) my cat also likes Frank Sinatra christmas collection, go figure. :) my only comment on the arm movement thing: i didn't see her yet this tour but i've seen her enough times in the past to catch the arm thing during Carry Me and Blue Sky (in particular). I think it's cool, although, it doesn't really matter what she does with her arms to me. It's what she does with her voice and her words that really get me. Really, anything she does is part of her whole presence, so i just love it all. It's like when Tori gets wacky with her piano and bench and all. People have always commented on how she gets those crazy cross-eyed looks and gyrates on the bench and stuff (okay, not the best parallel to patty's arms, but hey...). I just think these little nuances are what makes an artist THEM. and i, personally, love those little things. Peace, Sarah ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ "When I choose a friend, I choose one who loves truth, respects Life and me, one who hears Music and sees the Moon, one who loves to see me smiling." -- Renee Locks _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 16:23:04 -0700 From: "Melissa Fisk" Subject: Re: MM: CD Universe Order? I ordered mine from mymusic.com and it's still not here. I am dying. Tomorrow I hope. I feel ya, Chris...I feel your pain. Melissa - ---------------------------------------- "love I get so lost, sometimes days pass and this emptiness fills my heart when I want to run away I drive off in my car but whichever way I go I come back to the place you are..." Peter Gabriel...In Your Eyes - ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Chris" To: Subject: MM: CD Universe Order? Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 10:52:05 -0700 Did anyone else order 1000 Kisses from CD Universe and has still yet to get the CD, like me? - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 19:29:08 -0400 From: "Gary Jacques" Subject: Re: MM: Pets and Patty I played 1000 Kisses for my yellow lab "Harvey". He ate an antique table and a pair of socks. I think he liked it. Evil Gary ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 19:33:26 -0400 From: "Jamie Petta" Subject: MM: Jibberish This whole cd release thing is a whole new experience for me. I don't know about you (well, I kind of do), but I cannot believe all of the excitement that's been generated, all the energy I've exerted, over this cd! I cannot think of any artist that has ever moved me this way. I prepared my husband last night...when you come home, expect the music to be a-blasting, cuz' Patty's coming in the mail today. This morning, I rolled outta bed, and I couldn't wait to get in my car to listen to the cd...same thing when I left work. Isn't this sick? I'm going to Mt. Holyoke on the 27th to see her. I already know I'm going to cry when she sings "Rain". The only other time that's happened is when I saw Crowded House at SPAC. I cried all through "Weather with You". It's quite the phenomenon, I think, that certain music can move people so much. And it's not like she's telling my life story or anything...maybe it's just the story itself. I dunno. I'm going to have another beer and dance around the room to "Chief". "It's a helluva life, but it's somebody's life" [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 20:51:54 EDT From: Danalee7@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: Re: question In a message dated 4/10/02 9:57:30 AM, elena@pazazygeek.com writes: << > Did anybody get the new CD at a retail store (vs. through the mail)? >> I couldn't get down to Telegraph Ave yesterday, but today I did and found about 6 on the shelf at Amoeba and more at Rasputin's- both stores selling it for $13.99. I saw no posters or promotion for it tho. Amoeba had it in the folk section in a side room- several on the top rack and the rest in the file under her name. Rasputin did have it in a rack near the entrance with a load of other new rock releases. I looked for the Eliza Gilkyson Cd that Patty backed up on that was also supposedly released this week, but did not locate that one. I like Eliza Gilkyson's voice and music and am interested to hear what Patty did for backup for her. I decided to buy 1000 Kisses from a local store rather than online- support the locals in this college town. Use cash instead of a credit card too and no shipping and handling. {That works if it shows up on release day.} I had been gifted with a prerelease copy- but needed to get my own of course plus the art work is great. I listened to it straight thru twice again today- it really is a collection of good songs, very beautifully done. I miss a couple that didn't make it tho- never enough- I wish Florida and Falling Down had surfaced on this one. They would have been perfect on it, especially since it is a short Cd. Maybe next time- Patty certainly has a slew of unreleased songs - she could make another couple of these Cds in Doug's basement- no trouble. A live concert CD with songs from all 4 CDs would be great too. How about the Ark concert from last summer? Enjoy the concerts on the East Coast all you lucky ducks out there. Dana in Berkeley ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 20:53:32 EDT From: Danalee7@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: Meaning of Long Ride Home In a message dated 4/10/02 10:08:48 AM, taylorlw@pop.belmont.edu writes: << am i the only one who thinks it's about a man at his wife funeral? >> I have always heard it as a man at his wife's funeral too. Dana ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 21:32:10 -0400 From: Cynthia Courtney Subject: MM: Amazon review of 1000 Kisses "Since the breathtaking purity of her debut, Living with Ghosts, Patty Griffin has proven she can luxuriate in glamorous pop, rock like a biker, hold her own on stage with the Dixie Chicks, and write hit songs and singer-songwriter classics. What she hadn't done is craft an album as wholly exquisite and emotional as her talent. With the spare, acoustic 1,000 Kisses, she has done just that. In the basement of longtime guitarist Doug Lancio's Nashville home, Griffin takes a suite of intensely personal songs (and three covers, including a tingling version of Bruce Springsteen's "Stolen Car") into the close confidence of her airy but twang-shaded voice, and draws accordion, cello, mandolin, brushed drums, and even Emmylou Harris into a candid and rare musical space. After a four-year wait, 1,000 Kisses is more than reason to celebrate Griffin's return--it's a guileless, glowing masterpiece. - --Roy Kasten" It's ranked #11 in sales at Amazon! In addition, Amazon's weekly e-mail announcing New and Future music Releases says: "This is an exceptional week for major new releases. Neil Young leads the way with "Are You Passionate?," a diverse musical offering featuring Booker T. & the MGs and longtime collaborators Crazy Horse. Bonnie Raitt lives up to expectations with "Silver Lining," a highly polished collection of solid material. The Goo Goo Dolls follow up 1998's "Dizzy Up the Girl" with "Gutterflower," another hook-laden pop gem. Other highlights this week include new CDs from Patty Griffin..." Patty mentioned in nearly the same breath as Neil Young and Bonnie Raitt! Yippee! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 19:38:21 -0500 From: "Sean and Rebecca Courtney" Subject: MM: Re: Pets and Patty Why do I feel like I am in a Jean Teasedale Twilight Zone? Sean np -what else? - ----- Original Message ----- From: Lisa Zwick > Earlier someone mentioned that their cat liked Patty. > Well, I put 1000 Kisses on in the living room, and first I saw her standing > on the couch, trying to stretch herself over to the stereo, then she went > and lay down on the floor beneath it, and now she's sleeping, purring > happily on the couch. I think she likes it ;) > > -Lisa ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 22:36:50 EDT From: Rongrittz@aol.com Subject: MM: The quality-quantity thing. >> I agree that it's much too short. 39+ minutes and only 10 songs is a bit of a disappointment. It's really only 9 songs considering the last song "Reprise" is an instrumental and only 1:20 long. I wonder why this is the case? One more 4-5 minute song would have made a more complete disc. Oh well, I would much rather have quality over quantity. << Me too . . . but after Tuesday night's Joe's Pub show . . . the whole quantity vs. quality thing became underscored for me. I mean . . . the show was wonderful wonderful wonderful and all . . . but she only performed 12 songs. That's all? For $25? Again, don't get me wrong, I loved it, but I felt a little shorted. And then same thing with the CD. I'm absolutely blown away by it. "Rain" and "Be Careful" rock my world, and are two of the most beautiful songs I've ever heard. But I don't understand something. Ten songs. One of 'em is the instrumental. Three of them are covers . . . one of which ("Stolen Car") she's been doing for five years. Two other songs ("Long Ride Home" and "Nobody's Crying") which are also from the pre-FR era. So actually, the CD boils down to four "new" Patty songs: "Rain," "Chief," "Making Pies" (which itself has actually been around for a while) and "Be Careful." For God's sake . . . "Flaming Red" was released in 1998. Patty clearly had four year's worth of material (certainly enough to have put together the much longer "Silver Bell"), so it's not like she would have had to throw something on just for "filler's sake." So why do we really only get four new Patty Griffin songs? Like I said, I love the CD, and I hate to be looking a gift horse in the mouth. I mean, ANY music from Patty Griffin is a cause for celebration. I'm just very disappointed that after all this time, we didn't get more of it. RG ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 23:56:16 -0400 From: "Lisa Zwick" Subject: MM: Re: The quality-quantity thing. Yeah, i don't get it either. There's so many songs out there that she's done live...I haven't even heard all of them yet. I'm betting (but I may be wrong) that she has more unreleased songs than she does that are released. A bunch of my favorite songs were on Silverbell, so that part's not her fault...but there are still so many out there. I guess I'm just gonna have to collect more live stuff. Good to know I'm not the only one who's hard to please... Nevertheless, I've still been listening to it all nite, and had Rain on repeat for an hr or so... - -Lisa - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 10:36 PM Subject: MM: The quality-quantity thing. > Me too . . . but after Tuesday night's Joe's Pub show . . . the whole > quantity vs. quality thing became underscored for me. I mean . . . the show > was wonderful wonderful wonderful and all . . . but she only performed 12 > songs. That's all? For $25? Again, don't get me wrong, I loved it, but I > felt a little shorted. > > And then same thing with the CD. I'm absolutely blown away by it. "Rain" > and "Be Careful" rock my world, and are two of the most beautiful songs I've > ever heard. > > But I don't understand something. Ten songs. One of 'em is the > instrumental. Three of them are covers . . . one of which ("Stolen Car") > she's been doing for five years. Two other songs ("Long Ride Home" and > "Nobody's Crying") which are also from the pre-FR era. So actually, the CD > boils down to four "new" Patty songs: "Rain," "Chief," "Making Pies" (which > itself has actually been around for a while) and "Be Careful." For God's > sake . . . "Flaming Red" was released in 1998. Patty clearly had four year's > worth of material (certainly enough to have put together the much longer > "Silver Bell"), so it's not like she would have had to throw something on > just for "filler's sake." So why do we really only get four new Patty > Griffin songs? > > Like I said, I love the CD, and I hate to be looking a gift horse in the > mouth. I mean, ANY music from Patty Griffin is a cause for celebration. I'm > just very disappointed that after all this time, we didn't get more of it. > > RG ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V6 #126 *********************************