From: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org (mad-mission-digest) To: mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Subject: mad-mission-digest V6 #24 Reply-To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sender: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * mad-mission-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Patty's tour dates, go to: * http://www.quackquack.net/pattyg * OR * go to http://www.amrecords.com * then click "tour" and fill in the blanks :) * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V4 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. mad-mission-digest Saturday, January 26 2002 Volume 06 : Number 024 Today's Subjects: ----------------- MM: OT: Ryan Adams suggestions [Stephen Golato ] Re: MM: RE: OT: Ryan Adams specifics [CalLioness@aol.com] MM: Patty on Upcoming Soundtrack (sort of) ["Jennie Church" Subject: MM: OT: Ryan Adams suggestions I've been hearing a lot about Ryan Adams. I know some of you on the list have recommended him. Since I know you have incredible taste and a sound musical ear (since you're fans of Patty!), I wanted to ask which CD I should get. I think it's "Gold" that is the most recent and is doing well. But some of you said his earlier stuff is better. Has his sound changed from CD to CD? Or are they all basically the same sound. What would you recommend to someone who doesn't have any of his stuff? Can you give any indication of the sound of the records? I'm thrilled Patty signed with Dave Matthew's label. He had another artist on his label, David Gray, tour with him last year. What a concert that would be for me if she opened up for Dave M. Or maybe go on tour with him for any of his more intimate solo gigs. Can't wait for the new Patty CD this April. How many years have I been waiting for another CD?! :-) I remember marking down on my calendar at least twice the release date for Silver Bells. I'm not writing anything on my calendar this time. Don't want to jinx it. :-) Thanks. Riff "Don' t just exist. Live." *************************************************************************** This electronic mail transmission contains confidential and/or privileged information intended only for the person(s) named. Any use, distribution, copying or disclosure by another person is strictly prohibited. *************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 10:01:51 -0700 From: "Howes, Meghan" Subject: MM: RE: OT: Ryan Adams suggestions Ryan Adams. Well, his first album, Heartbreaker, is more subtle, more agonizing, more stripped down than Gold. I find myself returning to Heartbreaker more than Gold, but that's my melancholic side emerging, I guess. The fact is, there's no "come Pick Me Up" or "My Winding Wheel" or "Damn SAm (I love a woman that rains)" or "Don't Ask for the Water" on Gold, but that doesn't make it any less of an album. It's like trying to compare LWG to Flaming Red. They're both brilliant but OH so different. Personally, I'd start with Heartbreaker. Go back to the beginning-hear the origins and influences. Then, if you like what you hear, get Gold. Another Fine Morning with the inimitable Lori McKenna. If only she'd come West. * sigh * Oh, and for all you Paul fans--he's alive and well. Busy, but still a drinkin', hilarious, lovely fool. Meghan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 12:29:08 EST From: Tricia9999@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: RE: OT: Ryan Adams suggestions I agree that I would start with Heartbreaker. But I would also highly recommend Whiskeytown, his band. Tricia ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 13:03:47 -0500 From: Sean Subject: Re: MM: RE: OT: Ryan Adams suggestions Absolutely. If you want to fully appreciate Ryan, you MUST start at the beginning: Whiskeytown. Although it was a combined effort (with Caitlin Cary, who, by the way, has an her inaugural solo release coming out in April on Yep Roc records which will include feloow Whiskeytown alum and Caitlyn's spouse, Skillet Gilmore), the band's three full length CDs are a great primer, as Ryan's influence is clearly evident. Of the three (Stranger's Almanac '97, Faithless Street [reissue] '98, and Pneumonia '01) I would suggest Faithless Street to start with (if you can find the out-of-print 1997 version grab it as it is better than the reissue). Ryan and Whiskeytown were most frequently compared to Gram Parsons, the Rolling Stones, and as the alt.country Nirvana (with Gram Parsons being a very good comparison of their sound, with a little Stones thrown in and the Nirvana attitude). Sean Tricia9999@aol.com wrote: > I agree that I would start with Heartbreaker. But I would also highly > recommend Whiskeytown, his band. > > Tricia ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 14:48:25 EST From: CalLioness@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: RE: OT: Ryan Adams specifics I would agree with anyone who suggested starting with Heartbreaker. It's rough around the edges, but that's where the beauty lies...in the edges.. so to speak. I reviewed both albums and have been a long-time fan of the now defunct Whiskeytown. I would actually suggest starting with Whiskeytown's "Stranger's Almanac." It is truly Ryan and the band's masterpiece. It has a duet with Alejandro Escovedo, who is an amazing songwriter and singer in his own right. Stranger's Almanac may be a little too country for some of the more pop-oriented folks on this list, however, if that is the case than Heartbreaker may be too stripped down and unpolished. In that case I'd stear one towards Gold. Although Ryan isn't likely to ever make another record like Gold, it is a ...umm...nice record. I did gice "Gold" mediocre reviews, but that's pobably because I expected so much from him. It is kinda middle of the road. Yet there are some heartbreakingly beautiful tunes like "La Cienega Just Smiled" and "Harder Now That It's Ove r." Anyhoo... I hardly ever pop in Gold because it just seems kinda...fake. I t hink my headline for the review was "Adams mines Gold, comes up with pennies." Man I love that kid though. He's truly capable of great things. I'm just sitting back and waiting for his solo masterpeice to arrive. VR ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 15:12:06 -0500 From: "Jennie Church" Subject: MM: Patty on Upcoming Soundtrack (sort of) Forgive me if this has been posted already, I'm on digest. http://www.vh1.com/thewire/content/news/1451925.jhtml On the upcoming "We Were Soldiers" soundtrack, Mary Chapin Carpenter evidently performs a Patty-penned tune. By the way, the soundtrack also features a duet between Johnny Cash and Dave Matthews. "The "We Were Soldiers" soundtrack will also feature a duet between Michael McDonald (Doobie Brothers, Steely Dan) and Jamie O'Neal called "Not So Distant Day"; a cut by Mary Chapin Carpenter called "My Dear Old Friend," which was written by Patty Griffin; and a tune by Christian rock band Jars of Clay." "Cause when you live in a world Well, it gets into who you thought you'd be, And now I laugh at how the world changed me" ~Dar Williams, "After All" _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V6 #24 ********************************