From: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org (mad-mission-digest) To: mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Subject: mad-mission-digest V5 #162 Reply-To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sender: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * mad-mission-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Patty's tour dates, go to: * http://www.quackquack.net/pattyg * OR * go to http://www.amrecords.com * then click "tour" and fill in the blanks :) * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V4 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. mad-mission-digest Friday, July 13 2001 Volume 05 : Number 162 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: MM: Re: trouble [BLUEHEN@webtv.net] Re: MM: Re: talk about slow ["Karla Frisco" ] MM: unnecessary, totally ["Paul Russell" ] Re: MM: unnecessary, totally [dissident@mindspring.com] Re: MM: unnecessary, totally ["Corey Atkins" ] Re: MM: unnecessary, totally [ShmephSasso@aol.com] Re: MM: unnecessary, totally ["Lisa Zwick" ] MM: Patty in Annapolis [Femboty2k@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 02:04:53 -0400 (EDT) From: BLUEHEN@webtv.net Subject: Re: MM: Re: trouble GO GARY, GO!!!!!!!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 07:46:53 -0400 From: "Karla Frisco" Subject: Re: MM: Re: talk about slow Let me know if your going. Evil will buy you a beer. Now Mr. Evil Gary, you are going to lose your moniker if you continue being nice! If I go I will look for you. Peace, Karla - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 10:58:18 -0500 From: "Paul Russell" Subject: MM: unnecessary, totally Okay, I would have written earlier, but I've over-stepped my busy-boundaries. I've gone to the next level. I decided to start an MS in Gainesville while finishing up my MA here. I think I would have needed to plan that out more. Since I just applied, I'm thinking I'll just ask for my application to be for next year. Darn. The department is holding for my application, but too many moving processes to compute, too busy at work, and I still haven't found time to arrange all my transcripts to be sent. So it's like sweat-hot season down here in FLA. The days where you just have to accept the fact beads of sweat will be dripping down your face while making the trip from your front door to the car. The days where those without AC in the car wonder why they even have the car window open because it doesn't help. The days when dripping margaritas give reason for coasters. The days when sharks attack little kids...those bastards. But since there's no action going on here in the MMlist, I thought I'd try to find out about "Unnecessary". Is it just me? Or does the lyrics go something like "...sister brother, it's so hard to f*ck a mother..." um. ew. I usually try to give Ms. Griffin the benefit of the doubt and all, but um....yeah. Incest is not really my bag. Drinking beer and wearing lampshades is. So, I guess this particular song kind of falls to the bottom of my Patty Griffin recommendation list. Now if she wrote "...it's so hard to outdrink ten others..." ...BOING. Back up to the top. Way up there. Maybe even further than "How Many Mics" by The Fugees. Back to busy work and the Blue Angels show this weekend (I may be busy, but I still live a little). If you get a chance, see the Blue Angels show on a boat. It's relaxing, spaceous (unlike on the beach with shoulder-to-shoulder action), and you get more of a view. Paul ******************************************* * * * You're right. That's not a way to die. * * Your parachute not opening, now THAT'S * * a way to die. Getting stuck between * * the gears of a combine. Having your * * nuts bit off by a Lapplander. That's * * the way I wanna go. * * --Lt. Frank Drebbin * * from Naked Gun * ******************************************* _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 12:24:30 -0400 From: dissident@mindspring.com Subject: Re: MM: unnecessary, totally <<<>> I think you're misinterpreting the reference there. I haven't heard the song in awhile, but I remember interpreting that line as being a reference to the way the husband in the song has lost physical attraction to the wife now that she's become a mother, and the wife's feelings of being "unnecessary" as she's changed from being, in her mind, an exciting young girl to an underappreciated, aging mother with, as I believe the song says, "big thighs." That comment was directed at the man in the song who no longer shows the woman any kind of physical attention, not at a literal mother/son relationship. Actually, this song was one of the standouts for me on LFML. I've never heard one quite like it lyrically. www.thedissidents.com ********** ************ ************** **************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 11:54:07 -0600 From: "Corey Atkins" Subject: Re: MM: unnecessary, totally Now Paul - I know your analysis of "Unnecessary" is due to either heatstroke, alcohol, the innate wit and sarcasm for which we have all come to admire and fear you, or a dangerous combination of the above. I personally feel that is one of Patty's most touching and cutting songs, a heartwrenching commentary on society and roles - I think a lot of women find themselves in that situation: feeling they're no longer attractive (god forbid 'sexy') because they're now a Mother, which they feel puts them in a different category than 'Woman'. A Woman is sensual, beautiful, free, etc. etc., and a Mother is about duties, late nights and early mornings, putting herself second to the kids, etc. etc. And Paul, I know you know that guys want to have sex with a Woman, not a Mother, right...? (The previous sentence is written to be spoken/read with tongue in cheek.) Unless that guy is named Oedipus. (Ba dum bum *CHING*! Tip your waitress. I'll be here all weekend!) ...My 2 cents in the efforts to keep some posts going. All y'all who live in places where Patty actually goes (i.e. not Utah) are lucky fuckers. Hasta, - -CA _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 14:48:44 EDT From: ShmephSasso@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: unnecessary, totally I always thought it said, "It's so hard to fucking love her." But either way, I definitely think that word is in there, loud and clear. Harsh. Steph Sasso ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 15:55:25 -0400 From: "Lisa Zwick" Subject: Re: MM: unnecessary, totally either "a mother" or "another" is what i thought. - -XC - ----- - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 2:48 PM Subject: Re: MM: unnecessary, totally > I always thought it said, "It's so hard to fucking love her." But either > way, I definitely think that word is in there, loud and clear. Harsh. > Steph Sasso ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 17:31:07 EDT From: Femboty2k@aol.com Subject: MM: Patty in Annapolis Woo hoo! Patty will be in Annapolis 7/30. Haven't seen her in 3 years. Anyone out there going? Later, Tina ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V5 #162 *********************************