From: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org (mad-mission-digest) To: mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Subject: mad-mission-digest V5 #144 Reply-To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sender: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * mad-mission-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Patty's tour dates, go to: * http://www.quackquack.net/pattyg * OR * go to http://www.amrecords.com * then click "tour" and fill in the blanks :) * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V4 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. mad-mission-digest Friday, June 15 2001 Volume 05 : Number 144 Today's Subjects: ----------------- MM: if you like cowpunk [lwtaylor@ziggycom.net] MM: LFML, etc. [adamk@zoom.co.uk] Re: MM: LFML, etc. [Matt Fotter ] MM: Patty Dates ! ["donhenn" ] MM: Patty on Ebay [Scubagrrl@aol.com] Re: MM: LFML, etc. [Bernie Filipski ] Re: MM: Patty on Ebay [EveryLittleBit@aol.com] MM: Re: Patty on Ebay and stuff [Scubagrrl@aol.com] MM: howdy and hello ["Jennifer Ford" ] Re: Fw: Re: MM: patty not really dropped? [=?iso-8859-1?q?Matthew=20Smith] Re: Fw: Re: MM: patty not really dropped? [Songbird22@aol.com] NPC: Sacred Cows - Was Re: Fw: Re: MM: patty not really dropped? [Matt Fo] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 00:48:57 -0500 From: lwtaylor@ziggycom.net Subject: MM: if you like cowpunk If you like non-stereotypical punk, or in other words, the song "Flaming Red" fronted by a strong voice, go get "This World is Not My Home" by Lone Justice. This is the former band of the amazing Maria McKee. And if you like that, please get "You Gotta Sin to Get Saved" by Maria. Heck, get ALL her solo stuff. She also has a cd out called "Ultimate Collection" if you want to cheat. - -lt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:58:48 +0100 (BST) From: adamk@zoom.co.uk Subject: MM: LFML, etc. Hi -- just listening to LFML, and many thanks to everyone involved -- it's lovely. Especially big thanks to john higgins and his amazing artwork (okay, so I still can't fit it into my cd case, but it's lovely) and his superb liner notes. It was interesting to see the name Pousette Dart Band again --- what a trip down memory lane! Are they still around? At my first ever concert, Yes in 1976 (or thereabouts) they were the opening act. I don't remember much more about them than the name and seeing their album around (a mime-looking type, if I'm not mistaken) which I came across in a second-hand record shop in London only a couple of months ago. Someone mentioned Bob Mould. I kind of lost track of the context of the arguement, but Bob Mould is superb -- one of the few male artists of unflinching honesty and beautiful anger, passion and power. I've mentioned him before on another list as one of the rare male singer/songwriters who come close to female ones in terms of such honesty, and he's much missed (anyone know if he's recording again? It's been over two years!) someone mentioned the Kinks, as well, citing them up to 1975. I saw them in Chicago in 1978, expected a nostalgia fest, a going through of the motions, but they were absolutely brilliant. Sure, their heyday was the 60's and early 70's, but they still turned out some brilliant stuff afterwards ("Better Days", in 1980, springs to mind) and Ray Davies was cited as a major influence on the Britpop movement in the mid-90's (Blur's Damon Albarn even duetting with Ray on tv). He still tours, does readings from his autobiog and turns up on tv frequently -- he's aged amazingly well, although he always looks slightly pissed off whenever I see him. None of this has much to do with anything, of course. Oh well, back to LFML.... adam k. Get your own zoom email - click here - http://www.zoom.co.uk/ ------------------------------ Date: 14 Jun 2001 06:23:23 -0400 From: Matt Fotter Subject: Re: MM: LFML, etc. On 14 Jun 2001 09:58:48 +0100, adamk@zoom.co.uk wrote: . > > Someone mentioned Bob Mould. I kind of lost track of the > context of the arguement, but Bob Mould is superb Yes he is. There's times when I listen to Workbook and I almost fall over. > he's much missed (anyone know if he's recording again? > It's been over two years!) He did a small solo tour in 99 and 00. Other than that not I a peep I am aware of. m- - -- matthew s. fotter matt@fotter.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 12:21:51 -0400 From: "donhenn" Subject: MM: Patty Dates ! MMers , Pollstar has Patty at the Ark , in Ann Arbor , MI , August 17. The Ark site didn't have info , but said tix are available thru Ticketmaster. When I went to Ticketmaster , the Ark show wasn't there , but shows at the Birchmere , & Rams Head were. I ordered tix for Birchmere , but the Rams Head info said they weren't on sale yet. I tried the phone # , & got tix there. For the Birchmere show , Ticketmaster had a comment about high demand. I don't know if that was a standard comment , or if Patty's selling fast. The Birchmere - Alexandria , VA Sunday , July 29 , 7:30 Tix available online thru Ticketmaster General Admission Rams Head Tavern - Annapolis , MD Monday , July 30 , 8:30 Tix available at 410-481-SEAT Reserved The Ark - Ann Arbor , MI Friday , August 17 Tickets not on sale yet. Will be available thru Ticketmaster On the road again Just can't wait to get On the road again Willie Nelson "On the Road Again" Don ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:59:42 EDT From: Scubagrrl@aol.com Subject: MM: Patty on Ebay Hey, what's the deal with Patty's Nashville performance being sold on ebay? Has anyone else seen this? It's a VHS tape of the show back on the 7th that sold for about 32 bucks. Now there's another one listed with a "buy it now" option for 35 bucks. I don't know as much about the "business" as most of the musical people on this list, but is this legal? Don't get me wrong, I'd sell my own grandma for a copy of this thing, but seems to me that Patty is getting robbed from this deal. Any thoughts on this? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:12:22 -0400 From: Bernie Filipski Subject: Re: MM: LFML, etc. Last I heard, Bob was permanently retiring from touring. But he said nothing about recording new material. A Patty-Bob Mould dream show--- a dream of mine anyway. Bernie - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Fotter" To: Cc: Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 6:23 AM Subject: Re: MM: LFML, etc. > On 14 Jun 2001 09:58:48 +0100, adamk@zoom.co.uk wrote: > . > > > > Someone mentioned Bob Mould. I kind of lost track of the > > context of the arguement, but Bob Mould is superb > > Yes he is. There's times when I listen to Workbook and I almost fall > over. > > > he's much missed (anyone know if he's recording again? > > It's been over two years!) > > He did a small solo tour in 99 and 00. Other than that not I a peep I > am aware of. > > m- > -- > matthew s. fotter > matt@fotter.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:20:16 EDT From: EveryLittleBit@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: Patty on Ebay I checked ebay's rules, and oh yeah, it's illegal to sell that video. I tried to report the video to ebay's service police (or whatever the heck they're called) and found out someone else also had a pending complaint about it. Apparently there are a lot of us that would rather see Patty make money than sell our own grandmothers :) Rachel :D ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:08:40 EDT From: Scubagrrl@aol.com Subject: MM: Re: Patty on Ebay and stuff I'm so glad that I mentioned the ebay thing to this list-now I can sleep at night! Thank you to everyone who followed up on it and got this shady character taken down. I guess the "little guy" can make a difference! I always check for Patty stuff on ebay, just to see what's being sold. Also, big thanks and sloppy kisses to Don for posting Patty's upcoming dates. Thanks to him, I will be making my first Patty "Driving Pilgrimage" to see her in VA at the Birchmere. Of course I was just in DC two weeks ago and drove the 8 hours back home, but what's 16 more hours driving if it means seeing Patty again? I only saw her perform once and that was over a year ago at the Lebanon, NH show. Don, if you are going to the Birchmere show, I'd love to say hi! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:28:54 -0700 From: "Jennifer Ford" Subject: MM: howdy and hello Hey, I am new here. I have a freind that told me about the mad mission fan club, so here I am with bells on. Of course I am a HUGE fan of Patty. She is my musical inspiration. I can't WAIT to see her concert. (Any concert). Matter of fact, I went to a Dixie Chic's concert here in Tacoma, WA. just to see Patty. Anywho... my friend who told me about the fan club also mentioned that she received some CD's in the mail, all of the songs Patty has not released... I would absolutely LOVE a copy of them. What must I do to get in on such a sweet deal?? Just incase you need it, my address is: Jenn Starns PO BOX 836 Milton, WA 98354 Thank-you Thank-you Thank-you... you guys are awesome! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 23:03:39 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Matthew=20Smith?= Subject: Re: Fw: Re: MM: patty not really dropped? Ah Floyd, probably the most overrated band of all time. Pretentious stage shows and endless guitar diarrhoea. You know that they got on with each other so badly that they were never in the studio at the same time when they recorded their music. The music would be written and then they would take it in turns to go into the studio and record their parts! Over inflated egos and bank balances. Ma'eee - --- Songbird22@aol.com wrote: > matt@fotter.com writes: > > > Just curious - ever listen to London Calling? I > picked it b/c it wasn't > > stereotypical punk. I'll spot you the Joe > Strummer was a little less > > Ahh! London Calling is one AMAZING album! :) I love > the Clash :) (thanks to > my husband, who has reintroduced me to some amazing > bands/artists--Zappa, > Pink Floyd, The Clash, The Kinks) > > :0 > > jess > > new album BECOMING available now! > www.jessicaweiser.com | www.mp3.com/jessweiser > www.aftersilence.net Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 19:56:40 EDT From: Songbird22@aol.com Subject: Re: Fw: Re: MM: patty not really dropped? You know, I wasn't going to reply to this...because it's off-topic and I don't want to start a flame war or anything, and of course everyone is entitled to their own opinion! But then I was reading the e-mail to my husband, who is a huge Floyd fan, and he started going off about it ;-) and wanted to reply. So this is from my husband... mantabirostrisuk@yahoo.co.uk wrote: > Ah Floyd, probably the most overrated band of all > time. Pretentious stage shows and endless guitar > diarrhoea. You know that they got on with each other > so badly that they were never in the studio at the To say Pink Floyd is overrated is the same as saying, "I can't uderstand their music". Their stage shows may be extravagant, I wouldn't call it pretentious. As for the comment, "endless guitar diarrhea", see above..."I can't understand their music". Pink Floyd's albums are similar to classical music in the sense that each song is a piece of music that can't be fully expressed in the standard amount of time for a typical song. Beethoven's 9th symphony wouldn't be nearly as moving if it were three and a half minutes long. As for the band never being in the studio at the same time, well that's just flat-out wrong. You should do a little homework before making such a ridiculous statement. Rent "Pink Floyd, Live At Pompeii", you can see clips of the band working together in the studio on "Wish You Were Here" & "Dark Side of The Moon", and I think possibly "Animals". As far as egos go, almost every band in history has grappled with egos. Just look at the relationship between John Lennon and Paul McCartney, and how ugly that got towards the end. Would you also consider The Beatles to be overrated? Ma'eee (aka: Lyle) Jessica new album BECOMING available now! www.jessicaweiser.com | www.mp3.com/jessweiser www.aftersilence.net ------------------------------ Date: 14 Jun 2001 21:07:39 -0400 From: Matt Fotter Subject: NPC: Sacred Cows - Was Re: Fw: Re: MM: patty not really dropped? On 14 Jun 2001 19:56:40 -0400, Songbird22@aol.com wrote: > Would you also consider The Beatles to be > overrated? Heehee - he might not but I do. As somebody who likes the Kinks, Stones, the Mothers and other bands from that era, I've always had a hard time with the "hugeness" they had and still have. "Freak Out" by the Mothers came out a full three years before Sgt Peppers, was rock's first planned double album and it can be argued the first "concept" album; "Pet Sounds" was out a year before, "Beggar's Banquet" came out right after SP - and yet Sgt Pimples is held up as a watershed record when there were clearly other albums that made a bigger ripple. And let's be honest - a _lot_ of Sgt Pimples hasn't held up as well as a great deal of other material from that era (including a lotta stuff from the Beatles). I sometimes think the Beatles lucked by having such a short lifespan. They never had a chance to last too long and cheese-out like the Stones. If John and Paul's post-Beatles catalogs are any indication, the Beatles were way lucky to be done early. Damn! How am I going to get you all over to my house so we can blast the music, drink some beer and talk about this stuff all night? I'm already going to be in my basement trying to find my turntable and my copy of "Animals" b/c of AKA Lyle... Regards, m- - -- matthew s. fotter matt@fotter.com ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V5 #144 *********************************