From: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org (mad-mission-digest) To: mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Subject: mad-mission-digest V5 #86 Reply-To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sender: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * mad-mission-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Patty's tour dates, go to: * http://www.quackquack.net/pattyg * OR * go to http://www.amrecords.com * then click "tour" and fill in the blanks :) * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V4 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. mad-mission-digest Saturday, April 7 2001 Volume 05 : Number 086 Today's Subjects: ----------------- MM: Righteous Babe ["Donald Henn" ] MM: Re: Righteous Babe ["Elena" ] Re: MM: Re: Righteous Babe [Songbird22@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 20:05:13 -0400 From: "Donald Henn" Subject: MM: Righteous Babe O Death ! Where is thy sting ? O Patty ! Where is thy "Silver Bell" ? Better yet , where is thy "full set" live performance ? Our nation hasn't been graced with one since Oberlin in November. Maybe Patty should take a cue from Ani DiFranco. She's performing in the area tomorrow , & the local paper reprinted an article about her from the Boston Globe. She has released 12 albums in 12 years on her own label , Righteous Babe Records. Excerpt; "I think the biggest reason I recorded them was practical. I have a home studio set up now. You know, usually when you go into a recording studio, you're on the clock, you put down the songs, and try not to mess up the words or play the wrong chords. But now I have this facility where I can improvise and record at home. I could approach the tape without a finished idea, where I'm inventing, instead of remembering, the song. It was a total revelation." "Inventing instead of remembering". Great line. Our own "Righteous Babe" would thrive in the environment.Here's the link for anyone who wants to see the whole article. http://ae.boston.com/news/daily/03/23/ani_defranco.html I don't know Ani's music , & can't make the concert tomorrow , but I went to a lyrics site for a good quote. Found a great one right off , & checked out a few more. Ani's right up there in the lyrics department , & as close to Patty as I've seen. I've got a lack of inhibition I've got a lack of perspective I've had a little bit to drink And it's making me think That I can jump & swim That the ocean will hold me That there's got to be more Than this boat I'm in Ani DiFranco "Swan Dive" Still waiting , Don ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 17:40:58 -0700 From: "Elena" Subject: MM: Re: Righteous Babe Hey Don, Ani DiFranco and Patty Griffin are my idols. I admire Ani DiFranco's songwriting, attitude and musical style, just like I admire all of those things in Patty. One of the things that Patty has that Ani cannot hold a candle to is her voice, but in my opinion, Ani's songwriting skills, both lyrically, melodically and rythmically are unmatched. Swan Dive, the song you pointed out below, is probably one of my favorite songs of Ani's. But if you're really interested, I would urge you to pick up Dilate. It's probably Ani's best album when it comes to lyrics and it definitely has the most emotional, cohesive mix of songs. Check Ani out, you'll probably love her. She's a little edgier than Patty, a little rougher around the edges, a little more immature, a little more anti-establishment. Seeing as how these two are the ones I spend most of my time being inspired by and listening to, I've always kinda categorized them in my brain as City mouse and Country mouse. :) You might also check out Living in Clip, Buildings and Bridges, Not A Pretty Girl, Little Plastic Castle (which has the Swan Dive track on it and is currently on constant repeat in my car) or Puddle Dive. If you're a big fan of Patty's LWG you'll likely love Ani's really early stuff too - Imperfectly or her first self-titled album, although she really has bloomed as a songwriter and performer since the days when she first released those albums. I wouldn't suggest starting out with Up Up Up Up Up Up or To The Teeth right away as they're good albums but not really her best. Her story's actually quite remarkable. She's completely independently become a sensation, selling out concerts when she tours and Dilate debuted somewhere around 80 on the billboard 200 - pretty impressive for the fact that she didn't have a record label (other than her own) backing her. She's had tons and tons and tons of offers from record labels but turns 'em down as she claims it seems to be the only way for her to keep her own artistic integrity in tact. To be honest, I've often thought that Patty would do well to try and start a grass roots kind of thing like Ani's done. But again, Patty has a little bit more of a "down to earth" kind of feel, I think she tends to appeal to a wider and more mature audience (while Ani's songs are probably some of the most mature and insightful I've heard, her wackiness has inspired a very young female audience). One thing that I really feel Patty's albums would definitely benefit from is the production quality of Ani's most recent albums. It's perfectly stuck right in the middle between folk and rock - probably the perfect bridge between LWG and Flaming Red. I never got in on the last discussion because it seemed to be getting a little out of hand, but I have been sitting behind my stereo waiting patiently for Silver Bell to hit the racks myself and I'm just keeping my fingers crossed that Patty and her producers have got it right this time. Wow, sorry this is so long, I'm just waiting to be inspired by Patty again! Rock on, Elena - ----- Original Message ----- From: Donald Henn To: mad-mission Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 5:05 PM Subject: MM: Righteous Babe > O Death ! Where is thy sting ? > > O Patty ! Where is thy "Silver Bell" ? > > Better yet , where is thy "full set" live performance ? > Our nation hasn't been graced with one since Oberlin > in November. Maybe Patty should take a cue from Ani > DiFranco. She's performing in the area tomorrow , & > the local paper reprinted an article about her from the > Boston Globe. She has released 12 albums in 12 years > on her own label , Righteous Babe Records. > > Excerpt; > > "I think the biggest reason I recorded them was practical. > I have a home studio set up now. You know, usually when > you go into a recording studio, you're on the clock, you > put down the songs, and try not to mess up the words or > play the wrong chords. But now I have this facility where I > can improvise and record at home. I could approach the > tape without a finished idea, where I'm inventing, instead > of remembering, the song. It was a total revelation." > > "Inventing instead of remembering". Great line. Our own > "Righteous Babe" would thrive in the environment.Here's > the link for anyone who wants to see the whole article. > http://ae.boston.com/news/daily/03/23/ani_defranco.html > > I don't know Ani's music , & can't make the concert > tomorrow , but I went to a lyrics site for a good quote. > Found a great one right off , & checked out a few more. > Ani's right up there in the lyrics department , & as close > to Patty as I've seen. > > I've got a lack of inhibition > I've got a lack of perspective > I've had a little bit to drink > And it's making me think > That I can jump & swim > That the ocean will hold me > That there's got to be more > Than this boat I'm in > > Ani DiFranco > > "Swan Dive" > > Still waiting , > > Don ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 21:38:49 EDT From: Songbird22@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: Re: Righteous Babe Ani has a new album out April 10th which will be a double album (29 songs) called "Revelling/Reckoning". Check it out. Have heard some clips and this one is very jazzy (some songs remind me of Zappa at times) She's simply amazing... my hero actually (especially as an indie artist, I totally respect everything she has gone through so much). Jessica www.jessicaweiser.com | www.aftersilence.net "I need to be bold...I need to be living life not to flicker but to shine" - -brenda weiler ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V5 #86 ********************************