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mad-mission-digest       Friday, March 23 2001       Volume 05 : Number 074



                               Today's Subjects:
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  MM: RE: RE: The album           ["Jackson, Ryan" <rjackson@cypresscom.net>]
  MM: a little of nothing i guess                ["zeeke5" <zeeke5@home.com>]
  Re: MM: Silver Bell and the Record Company  [David Lewis <davelewis@hfx.ea]
  Re: MM: Silver Bell and the Record Company  [David Lewis <davelewis@hfx.ea]
  Re: MM: Silver Bell and the Record Company  ["vchenevey" <vchenevey@socal.]

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Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 17:01:36 -0500
From: "Jackson, Ryan" <rjackson@cypresscom.net>
Subject: MM: RE: RE: The album

<<It must be horrible for an artist to create music they are so proud of and
not have anyone hear it because it didn't get airplay. And face it, unless
you're a "hot artist" at the time, radio typically will not start playing
your single unless they see a demand for it.  It's makes me mad sometimes
when some artists get radio play right away, while others either never do or
only get it once the music gets out there through some other venue that the
radio stations later pick up on. -  ~ Riff>>




Lord, if this isn't the story of my life.  I'm one of a million sitting at a
desk in an office while some bag-o-nuts like Marylin Manson is hogging a
spotlight.  Alas, opportunity is a cruel illusion.

- -Ryan

P.S. It is a nice desk though, I should admit.  Nice, plastic, simulated
grain.  I really shouldn't complain.

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Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 17:53:21 -0800
From: "zeeke5" <zeeke5@home.com>
Subject: MM: a little of nothing i guess

for your info.... I asked a friend of mine who works for Sony Music if she
could get info from her friends at Universal....here goes...


she wrote:

I just had this very conversation with my friend over at Universal.  They
have
moved the album to a TBA (to be announced) streetdate rather than a firm
date in
May or June.  That doesn't look good.  She has also heard rumors that the
label
may drop her, and that the album is finished.  The problem is that Universal
owns the album and even if a smaller label (Razor & Tie, Rounder,) wanted to
release it they would have to buy the album from Universal.  She does have a
2
song sampler, which is making me crazy because she keeps "forgeting" to give
it
to me.

for what it's worth

zeeke
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Jackson, Ryan" <rjackson@cypresscom.net>
To: <mad-mission@smoe.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 2:01 PM
Subject: MM: RE: RE: The album


> <<It must be horrible for an artist to create music they are so proud of
and
> not have anyone hear it because it didn't get airplay. And face it, unless
> you're a "hot artist" at the time, radio typically will not start playing
> your single unless they see a demand for it.  It's makes me mad sometimes
> when some artists get radio play right away, while others either never do
or
> only get it once the music gets out there through some other venue that
the
> radio stations later pick up on. -  ~ Riff>>
>
>
>
>
> Lord, if this isn't the story of my life.  I'm one of a million sitting at
a
> desk in an office while some bag-o-nuts like Marylin Manson is hogging a
> spotlight.  Alas, opportunity is a cruel illusion.
>
> -Ryan
>
> P.S. It is a nice desk though, I should admit.  Nice, plastic, simulated
> grain.  I really shouldn't complain.

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Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 20:33:44 -0400
From: David Lewis <davelewis@hfx.eastlink.ca>
Subject: Re: MM: Silver Bell and the Record Company

Hey All... sorry if I started a LWG vs. FR thread! I didn't mean to. I just
personally felt that a few of the arrangements... not all, but a few of the
arrangements on FR were over done and that maybe that was part of the
problem with Silver Bell... if there is in fact a "problem" with Silver Bell
at all... which there may not be!!

The other factor is, I knew most of the songs on FR from hearing them as
live solos before the record came out... so it comes down to again,
preferring whatever you hear first. In fact, it always seems like people who
heard FR first prefer FR and people who heard LWG first prefer LWG. I
personally love both... but let's put it this way... I don't know if I will
still be listening to FR 10 years from now :) I'm pretty certain though that
I will always return to LWG.

Anyway... didn't mean to stir up what is most likely an old topic which has
probably been beaten to death here over the years!! I love Patty with a band
and as a soloist... I just want to see the band thing done as good as it
possibly can be!

p.s. If anyone here hasn't heard Edie Carey... you don't know what you're
missing! Just discovered her music a month or so ago and she's just
wonderful! She's not as wild and passionate as Patty... but she's pretty
amazing. Reminds me a lot of Shawn Colvin.

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Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 20:38:51 -0400
From: David Lewis <davelewis@hfx.eastlink.ca>
Subject: Re: MM: Silver Bell and the Record Company

Gary Jacques at jacques@colorite-resins.com wrote:

> electric Patty is great but LWG is not just a good record.  It is the
> best solo acoustic record or CD ever.  Period.

I could agree with that :) Then again, "The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan" and "The
Times They Are a-Changin'" weren't half bad either :) 

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Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 19:42:25 -0800
From: "vchenevey" <vchenevey@socal.rr.com>
Subject: Re: MM: Silver Bell and the Record Company

>>>Hey All... sorry if I started a LWG vs. FR thread! I didn't mean to. >>>>

Well, that's not necessarily a bad thing, David, even if we have done it
before.

If you've heard Patty live and heard her do "Every Little Bit" with the
band, it is an awesome thing. I got hooked on PG with that very song,
acoustically, from LWG. When I saw her live with the band and they did that
same song, I fell in love with the song all over again and for completely
different reasons. A perfect world? Two LWG's, one acoustic, one with the
band; two FR's, one acoustic, one with the band. Just send me to a desert
island!

Vickie

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