From: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org (mad-mission-digest) To: mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Subject: mad-mission-digest V4 #337 Reply-To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sender: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * mad-mission-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Patty's tour dates, go to: * http://www.quackquack.net/pattyg * OR * go to http://www.amrecords.com * then click "tour" and fill in the blanks :) * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V4 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. mad-mission-digest Friday, December 8 2000 Volume 04 : Number 337 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: MM: Patty's name comes up on the music awards NPC ["Andrew, Lee" ] MM: RE: Musical instruments ["Peeples, Lori" ] MM: RE: taping mellissa ["Peeples, Lori" ] Re: MM: Re: serious musicians [Lisa C ] MM: Re: your voice as a musical instrument [FlamingRed74@cs.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 11:10:01 -0500 From: "Andrew, Lee" Subject: RE: MM: Patty's name comes up on the music awards NPC Dave, I hear ya, but what I intended is to differentiate between singers and musicians... My mistake came in defining instrumentalist as musician... You are right in that singers are also musicians... My bad... Lee -----Original Message----- From: Dave Doody [mailto:davedoody@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 5:26 PM To: mad-mission@smoe.org Subject: RE: MM: Patty's name comes up on the music awards NPC >From: "Andrew, Lee" > >He doesn't write his own songs, and he doesn't play a musical instrument... >That makes him not ANY kind of musician, least of all a serious one. I disagree with this statement. I'm not really familiar with Sisqo (though I think I've seen his upper body flash across the TV screen once or twice before I flipped the channel), but there are plenty of talented musicians who don't write their own music or play an instrument. I sing in a choir with 75 of them. :-) Does Aretha Franklin write her own stuff or play an instrument? Did Frank Sinatra? Ella Fitzgerald? Cecelia Bartoli? Luciano Pavarotti? I think you'd be hard-pressed to say these people aren't/weren't serious musicians... Having said that, I tend to agree with the poster who said that awards shows based on "popularity" (like the Billboard Awards probably are) tend to reward crap, rather than good music. :-) And no, I'm not equating Sisqo with any of the above musicians. ;-) Dave ____________________________________________________________________________ _________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 12:50:33 -0500 From: "Donald Henn" Subject: MM: Musical instruments MMers , I think I recall a special from many years back , called "Barbra Streisand , & other musical instuments". The human voice is certainly a musical instrument. When Patty does cover songs , because of her excellent choices , her musical instrument brings them close to the level of her own songs. If you had the real thing How would you tell Liars can say it all Just as well Patty Griffin "Christina" Don ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 14:46:45 -0600 From: "Peeples, Lori" Subject: MM: RE: Musical instruments I think that was the most intelligent thing said yet on this topic...! Good job Don! Lori - -----Original Message----- From: Donald Henn [mailto:donhenn@msn.com] Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 11:51 AM To: mad-mission Subject: MM: Musical instruments MMers , I think I recall a special from many years back , called "Barbra Streisand , & other musical instuments". The human voice is certainly a musical instrument. When Patty does cover songs , because of her excellent choices , her musical instrument brings them close to the level of her own songs. If you had the real thing How would you tell Liars can say it all Just as well Patty Griffin "Christina" Don ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 15:57:07 -0500 From: "Kiersten" Subject: MM: taping mellissa Hey Lisa! No I didn't tape it because I don't have a machine to do it. Can anyone tell me where I can buy a good recorder? Does Radio Shack have things like that? What do you look for in one? Thanks! - --Kiersten - ----- Original Message ----- From: "mad-mission-digest" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 1:35 AM Subject: mad-mission-digest V4 #333 > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 01:33:36 EST > From: Lisa071573@aol.com > Subject: MM: melissa ferrick > > hey Kiersten - I suppose there's no chance that you taped this show?? I'd > love to hear Melissa doing a Patty song :P Lisa > > << I had such a great time here in Washington, DC Saturday night > seeing Mellissa Ferrick at a sold out show! >> > > ------------------------------ > > End of mad-mission-digest V4 #333 > ********************************* ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 15:23:12 -0600 From: "Peeples, Lori" Subject: MM: RE: taping mellissa Kiersten - As someone who is in the sound design/video business...NEVER EVER buy anything at Radio Shack!!! It's usually crap!! (only my opinion!) Look into Best Buy or places similar to it...they usually have good deals and decent quality. Lori M. Peeples Special Events Busch Creative Services www.buschcreative.com - -----Original Message----- From: Kiersten [mailto:kierstenk@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 2:57 PM To: mad-mission@smoe.org Subject: MM: taping mellissa Hey Lisa! No I didn't tape it because I don't have a machine to do it. Can anyone tell me where I can buy a good recorder? Does Radio Shack have things like that? What do you look for in one? Thanks! - --Kiersten - ----- Original Message ----- From: "mad-mission-digest" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 1:35 AM Subject: mad-mission-digest V4 #333 > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 01:33:36 EST > From: Lisa071573@aol.com > Subject: MM: melissa ferrick > > hey Kiersten - I suppose there's no chance that you taped this show?? I'd > love to hear Melissa doing a Patty song :P Lisa > > << I had such a great time here in Washington, DC Saturday night > seeing Mellissa Ferrick at a sold out show! >> > > ------------------------------ > > End of mad-mission-digest V4 #333 > ********************************* ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 17:34:47 EST From: Lisa071573@aol.com Subject: MM: mp3's Jen - just a note... Melissa Ferrick seems pretty against mp3's... I just happened to check out her new website a few days ago and there's a whole diatribe from her about mp3's... (of course, some kind soul already sent me the mp3 - heehee :) anyway, just a note of caution. I really wish the artists who are anti-mp3 would realize the value in getting their music heard. Lisa ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 18:32:41 -0500 From: Matt Bouchie Subject: MM: CDR b+p offer Thanks for responding, everyone! The third person to guess was closest. So, if you didn't hear back from me, you didn't get it. Hopefully, these shows will get out there a little more widely when I have more time to trade. Matt PS The number was 869. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 20:27:59 -0800 (PST) From: Lisa C Subject: Re: MM: Re: serious musicians I definitely agree that the voice is an instrument, but I think the distinction being made about Sisquo versus "serious musicians" was directed at his attitude toward his own musicianship. This brings to light to the issue I have with so many of the pop folks these days....one can be an entertainer or showperson without being a musician, as I consider many of "today's hits." God bless them all, they are singing catchy tunes, but what bothers me is the idea that they take themselves seriously as musicians, when there are truly serious musicians working hard in obscurity. This also differentiates much of the bubble-gum pop of today from what I consider "rock," which I fancy to be a sincere expression of emotion or revolt. Which is why I think Patty Griffin is a rock musician. Lisa - --- Eryn Fleming wrote: > I agree, Nancy. It's the same way at my school. > All of the > instrumentalists say that voice majors are NOT > musicians. Well, I happen to > be a vocalist and an instrumentalist, and I think I > know what an instrument > is!! I sing and play other people's music, but does > that mean I'm not a > musician? Wow, I think Patty would agree with us > anyway!! :) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nancy Micciulla" > To: > Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 3:26 AM > Subject: MM: serious musicians > > > > so, this thought is a little late -- i haven't > checked my email in a > while. > > but since when is the voice not considered an > instrument? if sisquo does > > not consider himself a serious musician, then so > be it. but i'm sure > bette > > midler considers herself one, whether those are > her songs are not. and if > > the vocal majors at my college hear you say > they're not instrumentalists, > > run for your life. . .hehe. . .have a good night > everyone :-). > > > > nancy > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > _________ > > Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download > : > http://explorer.msn.com Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 00:52:27 EST From: FlamingRed74@cs.com Subject: MM: Re: your voice as a musical instrument I just have to weigh in on this subject .. Nancy writes.. >since when is the voice not considered an instrument? I have to inform everyone that Nancy herself has the absolute most beautiful instrument that I've ever heard! (yes, it IS her vocal chords). If you have yet to hear her.. come to PA by car, boat, plane, or train to hear her! Either that or check out her website (www.paperwings.de) to listen to her sound clips. If you like what you hear, email me for info on getting her demo tape. This girl truly has the most gorgeous voice I've EVER heard! .. and that includes my own, which sounds somewhat like a car's alternator that is just about to die. For those of you that have not had the opportunity of hearing that sound.. count your blessings b/c my alternator just died, and it wasn't pretty.. LOL Umm, so off the Nancy subject for a bit.. I guess March will be here before we know it, and "Silver Bell" will be officially released! Just think, it was originally supposed to be released already, and I COULD be sitting here listening to a studio recording of Little God right now (oh la la) but no, record companies suck, therefore I'm forced to hopelessly look forward to March.. hoping and praying that the album is not pushed back again! Anyway.. I hope everyone has a great weekend! Rock out Patty Jean! ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V4 #337 *********************************