From: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org (mad-mission-digest) To: mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Subject: mad-mission-digest V4 #183 Reply-To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sender: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * mad-mission-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Patty's tour dates, go to: * http://www.quackquack.net/patttyg * OR * go to http://www.amrecords.com * then click "tour" and fill in the blanks :) * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V4 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. mad-mission-digest Wednesday, June 21 2000 Volume 04 : Number 183 Today's Subjects: ----------------- MM: Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 20:58:41 -0400 ["Gary Jacques" ] MM: Re: mad-mission-digest V4 #182 [mark_fitzgerald@keybank.com] MM: Re: Re: mad-mission-digest V4 #182 ["amber bass-patterson" ] Re: MM: RE: Seattle Times review- 6-9-00 ["Corey Atkins" ] MM: Drumroll: Conest winners! ["Jennifer Lynn Caputo" ] MM: Guy who LIKES patty ["Paquin, John" ] Re: MM: Drumroll: Conest winners! [EveryLittleBit@aol.com] MM: congratulations! ["Nancy Micciulla" ] MM: NPC: John Hiatt [AG ] Re: MM: Drumroll: Conest winners! [SteveM712@aol.com] MM: LA Times (non) review [SteveM712@aol.com] MM: NPC: Singer Songwriter Weekend WXPN 88.5 Philly Public supported radio ["Gary Jacques" Subject: MM: Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 20:58:41 -0400 Just got done watching John Hiatt perform on Sessions at West 54th. One of the great song writers of of time. It was fun seeing him MC at the Patty show at 54th. Anyone heard his new CD. Pretty damn good. Evil Gary ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 22:37:33 -0700 From: Kathy & Jeff Gebhardt Subject: MM: Slims v. ARCO I had the opportunity to see Patty's show at Slim's in SF last Wednesday, then saw her open for the Dixie Chicks on Thursday at ARCO in Sacramento. The band was way loud but AWESOME at Slim's, and under-amped and under-stated as the opening act for the Chicks. I'm glad I got to see the raucous Slim's show, because it gave me a better sense of what Patty and her band are all about than the abbreviated opening act the next night. I left Thursday's show thinking that if Patty and Doug and band really turned it on that night they probably would have blown away the gathering Dixie Chicks fans. The new material sounds pretty darn good, especially the "Top of the World" (another song about death). By the way, the Springsteen song was "Racing in the Streets" from "Darkness on the Edge of Town." She did an awesome job, too. Looking forward to the new CD in the fall. Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 07:41:16 -0400 From: mark_fitzgerald@keybank.com Subject: MM: Re: mad-mission-digest V4 #182 Somebody or other said: >What about comparisons to (ouch) Alanis? That hurts more than the Crow >connection for me. >The only other female singer/songwriter that I put in the same category as >Patty is the always beautifully honest, Iris DeMent. I love Iris! Did you check out the last John Prine CD? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 07:58:56 -0500 From: "amber bass-patterson" Subject: MM: Re: Re: mad-mission-digest V4 #182 I'm not sure if I am "somebody" or "other", but I did post that I love Iris. I have not purchased the Prine cd ( don't know why, I have lots of his stuff) but I have heard his songs w/ Iris. Great for putting a smile on your face. I saw her recently in a venue w/ less than 150 people, She was fabulous and I felt truly privileged to be there. Can't wait to see her again. Amber in Austin - ---- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 6:41 AM Subject: MM: Re: mad-mission-digest V4 #182 > > Somebody or other said: > > >What about comparisons to (ouch) Alanis? That hurts more than the Crow > >connection for me. > >The only other female singer/songwriter that I put in the same category as > >Patty is the always beautifully honest, Iris DeMent. > > I love Iris! Did you check out the last John Prine CD? > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 08:11:16 -0500 From: "Simmons, Ross" Subject: MM: mad-mission-digest V4 #182 I would have to say that Digest V4 #182 was the worst one ever. Keep up the good work! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 09:27:19 MDT From: "Corey Atkins" Subject: Re: MM: RE: Seattle Times review- 6-9-00 OK... I'll admit that Patty and Sheryl have very few similarities. Patty's lyrics do tend to be more...well, poetic, literate, I suppose. I'll give you that, easy. (I mean, hello, the woman's a genius) I do, however, have to jump to Sheryl's defense on the voice front; have you heard her live in Central Park CD? Dear Sweet Jesus, the woman HOLLARS! She can wail with the best of 'em when she not in a studio with (I presume) producers and corporate suits telling her what to do... That's all - give the Central Park CD a listen; it's Sheryl at her free and soulful best. Oh - and yes, Sheryl, you betta watch yo' back, 'CAUSE HERE COMES PATTY GRIFFIN!!!!!!!! - -CA ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 08:34:03 PDT From: "Paul Russell" Subject: MM: NPC Sheryl and me LOL. I would like to think I'm strong enough to be Sheryl Crow's man. But hey, if I'm not strong enough to be her man....then I'll hire someone who is. Because all I really want to do, is have some fun. We just do what we can. Because every day is a winding road. :P Oh, and you're right, Meghan. I don't think I've ever "heard" Patty's voice sounding similar to Sheryl's....but I've heard some Rickie Lee Jones moments every now and then. And I'm glad we share the fondness of a good stout. It just gets me right...here. (sniff). I'm getting a little verklempt. Here, I'll give you a topic to discuss amongst yourselves. Summer Solstice...why such a long day? ...Discuss. okay, better. I've come to find out about another mix. There's the Black and Tan and the Half and Half... but last week I was conversing with my bartender and she told me of a Black Castle she made for someone. It's Newcastle and Guinness. I haven't tried it yet (I'm a little partial to the pure unadulterated Guinness, but I tend to go out all fancy every now and then), but it sounds delicious. Just adding my two cents (which is about all I've got left after a night out drankin). *clink clink* peace love and vegetable rights paul *********************************** * Don't ask me 'Hank, why do you * * drink.' and 'Hank, why do you * * roll smoke. Why must you live * * out the songs that you wrote?' * * --Hank Williams, Jr. from * * "Family Tradition" * *********************************** ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 11:44:46 -0400 From: "Jennifer Lynn Caputo" Subject: MM: Drumroll: Conest winners! The moment we have all been waiting for! Here are the contest winners! the 5 preselected people who will receive a cd and poster w/ some of the reasons they were chosen. 1. Dave Goodyear (UMCaner) 2. Don Henn "Anyways...I chose him for the same great reasons others have chosen him: always great reviews and comments w/much info to the list, very sweet and willing to help - especially after meeting him at concerts, very generous with his patty stuff (tapes, pics, etc)." ". I guess I vote for Dave- he's one of the nicest, no he is the nicest, and also posts the most interesting and eloquent posts. But a close tie would be Don- he has travels the most and probably the furtherest and he is also so unselfish (generous). " "I vote for Don Henn. He is so generous and kind and has probably docked more miles chasing Patty around in the last year than anyone else has in their life. He's a very dedicated fan!" 3. Dana Werner "I would like to vote for Dana. I guess it was about two years ago when she turned me on to Patty. I am a BIG Jackson Browne fan, and Patty was going to play at a benefit hosted by Jackson... I innocently posted to the JB list..."Who's Patty Griffin"... WOW! I got this three page, (no kidding) RAVING review on how great Patty is, (from Dana)... Not only THAT, but when I showed up in Sedona, Dana hands over 14 PG TAPES!!! Can you believe it? She has GOT to be the most generous PG fan out there... AND I KNOW she has done this for COUNTLESS other people. If you know someone more deserving of a CD, I'd like to hook up with them... Dana is FAB!!!" 4. Rachel Martin 5. Jen Powelson "As far as vote for a deserving MMer who I'd like to see get the CD, well, how about Rachel - EveryLittleBit@aol.com, who runs the Patty Griffin Lyrics Archive (http://www.geocities.com:0080/Wellesley/3079/patty.html). She seems deserving, nice, etc., etc. and besides, the Lyrics Archive is one of the best Patty sites " "I would like to vote for Jen Powelson to get a copy of the CD and a poster.. :-) She's the one behind the Rarities compilation, and is working on Rarities 2. I guess my 2nd vote would go to Rachel who works so hard on the lyrics archive " "I'd like to put in a vote for another Jen, (mystchif1@aol.com) I am voting for her because of her work on and distribution of the earlier rarities tapes/CD's and for her continued work on the new rarities and Patty covers projects. She has been very generous of her time and energy to these projects and I feel deserves to be recognized for that." The 5 random chosen people (all will receive a cd & a poster): 1. Mariann Minghetti 2. Eryn Fleming 3. Justine Lakeit 4. Sonja Krawesky 5. Robert Richardson And the 30 random people that will receive a promo poster: 1. Larry Israelson 2. Ronni Heggen 3. Anne Corrigan 4. Laura Taylor 5. Ginny LaRoe 6. Misty Cochran 7. Marc Hertz 8. Joe Hui 9. Bryon Jacoby 10. Greg Pendleton 11. Kathy Flanigan 12. Elaine Bean 13. Tammy Campbell 14. Lisa Conte 15. Sarah Stanley 16. Marni Rosenbaum 17. Melanie Christian 18. Rachael Vorberg-Rugh 19. Ronda B. 20. Stephanie Kistler 21. Jennie Church 22. Jane MacArthur 23. Stephen Underwood 24. Tony Brown 25. Carolyn Lee 26. Paul Russell 27. Alan Geist 28. Barbara Ciesemier 29. Paul Dell'Aquila 30. Chris Shoemaker Everything will be sent out early next week. You don't need to do anything if you won - I have already sent your addresses to our buddy so he's just working on getting the 40 packages together. Hope everyone enjoyed our little contest and thanks a lot to everyone who particpated! Very relieved that this is finally over! Jen :-) http://63.65.13.167/pattygriffin/mp3s/pmp3.htm The Patty Griffin mp3 of the week site http://www-personal.engin.umich.edu/~jcaputo/Patty.html Patty Griffin Concert Photo Archive ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 15:05:43 -0500 From: "Paquin, John" Subject: MM: Guy who LIKES patty For those of you who have not been on this list long enough (not an age crack, let it go) to have been referred to the following site for good music reviews, it's high time you went. glenn mcdonald writes these columns that really move me, and he likes patty quite a little bit. Here's a quote from one of his columns "Here, then: [Living With Ghosts] is the most important bare acoustic album since Luka Bloom's Turf, and the best album of pure folk songwriting made during my lifetime" That's saying something. Here's another quote: "I'm sure the first thing a therapist would tell me, or a priest, is that meaningful salvation can't, of its very nature, come in somebody else's chorus. Whatever I'm looking for in these songs, I'm probably closer to it if I pull the disc out, flip it over, and peer at the reflection in the playing surface" I love this guy. Here are some links, but his site is searchable: http://www.furia.com/twas/index.html http://www.furia.com/twas/twas0183.html http://www.furia.com/twas/twas0079.html have fun. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 16:08:03 EDT From: EveryLittleBit@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: Drumroll: Conest winners! In a message dated 6/21/00 11:53:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jcaputo@umich.edu writes: << 4. Rachel Martin >> Thank you, whoever voted for me :). I was actually really suprised I got one-- and I'm really excited! I can't wait to hear it! I get so much mail through the website from people thinking I'm Patty, or trying to book patty for things, and it's just nice to have people recognize that I'm just a fan. I'm really glad people like the Archive so much :). It's been up for over two years now, and I definitely feel it's a success! The $5.00 a month I pay to keep Geocities from putting pop up ads on the site are definitely worth it. Congratulations to everyone else who won. Those of you voted for all certainly deserved it :) Rachel :D *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** The Patty Griffin Lyrics Archive http://www.geocities.com/raitch/patty.html *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 14:16:23 PDT From: "Nancy Micciulla" Subject: MM: congratulations! congratulations to everyone who got a cd or poster! be sure to let the rest of us know what they're like! nancy ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 12:28:04 -0700 (PDT) From: AG Subject: MM: NPC: John Hiatt What else can I add? As a punk chick, I feel a bit of incongruity about the fact that at the top of my desert island discs list are "Living with Ghosts" and Hiatt's "Bring the Family". New cd, besides the greatest hits disc from last year? When did this come out? TOUR...TOUR...TOUR...god damn I wanna see John Hiatt live. *andie* - --- Gary Jacques wrote: > Just got done watching John Hiatt perform on Sessions at West 54th. > One of > the great song writers of of time. It was fun seeing him MC at the > Patty > show at 54th. > Anyone heard his new CD. Pretty damn good. > Evil Gary > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 17:42:27 EDT From: SteveM712@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: Drumroll: Conest winners! 1) A hearty well done to Jen for the contest...thanks for sharing the goodies with the list! 2) TPC (tangential Patty content): Wondering if Patty might get some new fans as a result of the big break Ellis Paul is getting this week, with his song "The World Ain't Slowing Down" being heavily featured in the new Jim Carrey movie. OK, follow the convoluted logic: People hear the song, love the song, become Ellis fans, purchase his entire discography, including the new live CD set that features Patty's beautiful guest vocals, hear Patty, fall in love with the voice, become Patty fans, etc.... Steve ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 17:49:24 EDT From: SteveM712@aol.com Subject: MM: LA Times (non) review Here's the brief mention of Patty in the LA Times' review of the Dixie Chicks: The group was joined on two numbers by Sheryl Crow, a surprise guest for the evening, and on one number by pop-rock singer-songwriter Patty Griffin, who is the opening act on several tour dates and who wrote "Let Him Fly," one of the most engaging numbers on the group's "Fly" album. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 19:08:33 -0400 From: "Gary Jacques" Subject: MM: NPC: Singer Songwriter Weekend WXPN 88.5 Philly Public supported radio The line up for WXPN 88.5 Philly looks like Patty Smith, Mary Chapin Carpenter, Steve Forbert, Shelby Lynne, Terri Hendrix, Phil Roy, Chris Smither. Two years ago Patty played what I believe she said was her tour kickoff concert with her new band. Anyone who was there will tell ya it was a great show. Saturday July 16th and Sunday July 17th. I think it costs about $8.00 a head.(per day). Not bad! They have an area where you can meet the performers. The location of the show is Penns Landing on the Deleware River in Philly. Ten minute walk to Historic downtown Philly and some of the best food and drink in the country. They also sell draft beer at the show. Bring something to sit on. Here's the link for more info. www.xpn.org/music/ssw2000. This is a great weekend of music. (Music Only) Evil Gary ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 20:43:20 EDT From: UMCaner74@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: Patty Vs. Sheryl Ok, so I must chime in on the Sheryl Crow thing here.. I love Sheryl almost as much as any of her fans (and she was MY fiance first, back off Paul!!).. I've seen her in concert many times, and her voice has ranged anywhere from good, to not the greatest. In my opinion, she is an awesome story-teller and a great songwriter. She is a brilliant musician, I've seen her play probably 10 different instruments on stage with her band. Her voice does tend to get tired towards the end of shows at times, but all in all she is a great live act. Her songs performed live ARE much, much better than the way they sound on the CD's. It's not that they aren't good on the CD's, it's just that her band and the way she sings them is much better live. If you've only heard her radio songs, you're really missing out because her best stuff by far are her other songs on the CD's that aren't played on the radio. I do have to disagree with this comment to a point though.. >I do, however, have to jump to Sheryl's defense on the voice front; have you >heard her live in Central Park CD? Dear Sweet Jesus, the woman HOLLARS! >She can wail with the best of 'em when she not in a studio with (I presume) >producers and corporate suits telling her what to do... Actually, Sheryl produces her own CD's, which is another part of how brilliant she is. She either just was, or is currently producing CD's for Sarah Mclauchlan (god I think I spelled that wrong and I can't figure out where!) and Stevie Nicks. I think she just does the CD's more mellow (voice-wise), and really lets it all go in her live performances. As far as the comparison to Patty.. well, I really can't hear any likeness at all. There have been times while listening to Flaming Red, a friend will say.. "is that Sheryl Crow"? I don't know if it's b/c they know I used to listen to her alot, of if they are hearing a resemblance... I just have no clue how you could hear Patty singing and think it was ANYBODY ELSE! Take care, Dave ************************************************ Last night I dreamt of flying Over hillsides in the snow And I dove down through the clouds Into the valley there below When the fields turned into parking lots My freedom turned to dread The ground rose up to greet me And I jumped up out of bed ~~ The Badlees ~~ ************************************************ ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V4 #183 *********************************