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A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V4 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. mad-mission-digest Tuesday, June 20 2000 Volume 04 : Number 181 Today's Subjects: ----------------- MM: NPC: Thanks [Gary Jacques ] MM: RE: NPC: Thanks ["Kunkel, Robert G" ] MM: Seattle Times review- 6-9-00 ["Donald Henn" ] MM: RE: Seattle Times review- 6-9-00 ["Howes, Meghan" ] MM: RE: RE: NPC: Thanks ["Paquin, John" ] MM: review- Tacoma News Tribune 6-11-00 ["Donald Henn" ] MM: review Portland Oregonian 6-13-00 ["Donald Henn" ] MM: TOTALLY OFF TOPIC [Nursegrrl8@aol.com] MM: excerpt from Sacramento Bee review 6-17-00 ["Donald Henn" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 11:19:32 -0400 From: Gary Jacques Subject: MM: NPC: Thanks The Evil One would like to thank all those that came to my defense this week. Even though I think it made some of you sick to do so. LOL. Those are the kind of free thinkers that make this a great site. As for those that caused me grief, Lizzard come lately and her band of much more holy than thou big yap friends. You are the biggest bunch of hypocrites I have ever seen. You totally missed my point. Your big yap buddy that called attention to the concert, protesting the NRA, is being held at the same time the Republican Convention is being held in Philly. There was a political agenda being pushed at people. And if you had any brains at all you would have figured it out. I'm not a Republican. I'm not a Dem. And I despise the NRA. I do live outside of Philly. The convention is a good thing for the city and the surrounding area. PS..I can't wait for Patty's new CD. If the play list is in fact what has been rumored, I will already have heard most if not all of the songs. Should be great. Thanks again folks, Evil Gary ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 15:00:33 -0400 From: "Kunkel, Robert G" Subject: MM: RE: NPC: Thanks What point is it that you were trying to make Gary? I don't know how I could've missed it? What with your point being one whispered sentence amidst twenty or so belligerent, ranting e-mails, gee I'm sorry I didn't pay closer attention...anyhow... Let's see now, you were thanking all the "free thinkers" for defending you.... For argument's sake (got you drooling now, huh Gary?) let's say she was trying to put forward her political stance? I thought you said you liked the free thinkers... What, she MUST be brainwashed to believe in something or to (heaven forbid) try to interest others in her opinions? (You've never tried to tell someone your opinion, have you Gary...) And the simple act of posting her opinion would certainly brainwash the rest of us just like that? I thought we were free thinkers...you know, capable of making our own decisions about things. Or, should we just trust you to make those decisions for us? Thanks, but no thanks - and I can't honestly expect to think you'd want me making any decisions for you either. Seems a bit hypocritical, telling the free thinkers not to listen to her opinion and to listen to yours instead, wouldn't you say? Oh, and so you'll be sure to notice my point, I better add: Shut your big yap! You're a punk-ass bully who couldn't resist a slam if your life depended on it! And you know what else? Your mom wears soiled laderhosen! Dick wad. > -----Original Message----- > From: Gary Jacques [SMTP:jacques@colorite-resins.com] > Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 11:20 AM > To: 'mad-mission@smoe.org' > Subject: MM: NPC: Thanks > > The Evil One would like to thank all those that came to my defense this > week. Even though I think it made some of you sick to do so. LOL. > Those are the kind of free thinkers that make this a great site. As for > those that caused me grief, Lizzard come lately and her band of much > more holy than thou big yap friends. You are the biggest bunch of > hypocrites I have ever seen. You totally missed my point. Your big yap > buddy that called attention to the concert, protesting the NRA, is being > held at the same time the Republican Convention is being held in Philly. > There was a political agenda being pushed at people. And if you had any > brains at all you would have figured it out. I'm not a Republican. I'm > not a Dem. And I despise the NRA. I do live outside of Philly. The > convention is a good thing for the city and the surrounding area. > PS..I can't wait for Patty's new CD. If the play list is in fact what > has been rumored, I will already have heard most if not all of the > songs. Should be great. > Thanks again folks, > Evil Gary > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 15:00:24 -0400 From: "Donald Henn" Subject: MM: Seattle Times review- 6-9-00 MMers , This is not really a review , but more like a short bio. For Patty Griffin , success may be a hit away Patty Griffin , the Dixie Chicks' opening act , is one of those promising singer-songwriters who only needs one hit to make her career take off. A native of Maine ,she says she was the loudest & most boisterous of the seven children in her Catholic family. She was scolded for her energetic playfulness as a child , which she expresses in her music. Her second album , "Flaming Red" , has her rocking with a band , singing bold , sometimes confessional songs about her personal life & professional frustrations. Her style is similar to that of her friend & fellow A & M labelmate , Sheryl Crow. Her first album , "Patty Griffin" , was more folklike , made up primarily of the demos she submitted after the label signed her. she wanted to re-record the songs with a band , but the label preferred the simpler voice- and-guitar recordings. Griffin honed her style in the folk clubs of Boston , but later moved to Nashville & absorbed its country-music traditions. She played clubs at night & pitched her songs to publishers during the day. she's now based in Austin , Texas , a city where her eclectic folk , rock & country- influenced style is much appreciated. She's a regular in the many clubs there. She's recently been touring with fellow Austin resident Lucinda Williams. Last year , Griffin gained many new fans with a feature slot on the Lilith Tour. Touring with the Dixie Chicks should heighten her profile. And it may help her get that hit record. - Patrick MacDonald ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:13:34 -0600 From: "Howes, Meghan" Subject: MM: RE: Seattle Times review- 6-9-00 oooooo I severely DISLIKE (damn near to HATE) when Patty is compared to Sheryl Crow. How, may I ask, is this possible? Patty's lyrical abilities far outshine that of Raven's (uh, I mean Crow's) and her voice...well, y'all get my drift. Meghan _________________________________________________ "There's no charity in you/and that surprises me..." A. Mann - -----Original Message----- From: Donald Henn [mailto:donhenn@msn.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 1:00 PM To: mad-mission Subject: MM: Seattle Times review- 6-9-00 MMers , This is not really a review , but more like a short bio. For Patty Griffin , success may be a hit away Patty Griffin , the Dixie Chicks' opening act , is one of those promising singer-songwriters who only needs one hit to make her career take off. A native of Maine ,she says she was the loudest & most boisterous of the seven children in her Catholic family. She was scolded for her energetic playfulness as a child , which she expresses in her music. Her second album , "Flaming Red" , has her rocking with a band , singing bold , sometimes confessional songs about her personal life & professional frustrations. Her style is similar to that of her friend & fellow A & M labelmate , Sheryl Crow. Her first album , "Patty Griffin" , was more folklike , made up primarily of the demos she submitted after the label signed her. she wanted to re-record the songs with a band , but the label preferred the simpler voice- and-guitar recordings. Griffin honed her style in the folk clubs of Boston , but later moved to Nashville & absorbed its country-music traditions. She played clubs at night & pitched her songs to publishers during the day. she's now based in Austin , Texas , a city where her eclectic folk , rock & country- influenced style is much appreciated. She's a regular in the many clubs there. She's recently been touring with fellow Austin resident Lucinda Williams. Last year , Griffin gained many new fans with a feature slot on the Lilith Tour. Touring with the Dixie Chicks should heighten her profile. And it may help her get that hit record. - Patrick MacDonald ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 15:21:16 -0400 From: "Donald Henn" Subject: MM: Review- Edmonton Journal 6-4-00 Excerpt from dixie chicks review. It was all a far cry from the bleak opening set from Patty Griffin that lacked any kind of build in terms of pacing or personality. Yes , her "Flaming Red" disc is a pretty good effort , but if she's hoping to build a fan base with this great tour opportunity , she'd better get some wind in her sails fast ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 14:37:14 -0500 From: "Paquin, John" Subject: MM: RE: RE: NPC: Thanks Somebody needs a nap. -----Original Message----- From: Kunkel, Robert G [mailto:robert.g.kunkel@lmco.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 3:01 PM To: 'mad-mission@smoe.org' Subject: MM: RE: NPC: Thanks What point is it that you were trying to make Gary? I don't know how I could've missed it? What with your point being one whispered sentence amidst twenty or so belligerent, ranting e-mails, gee I'm sorry I didn't pay closer attention...anyhow... Let's see now, you were thanking all the "free thinkers" for defending you.... For argument's sake (got you drooling now, huh Gary?) let's say she was trying to put forward her political stance? I thought you said you liked the free thinkers... What, she MUST be brainwashed to believe in something or to (heaven forbid) try to interest others in her opinions? (You've never tried to tell someone your opinion, have you Gary...) And the simple act of posting her opinion would certainly brainwash the rest of us just like that? I thought we were free thinkers...you know, capable of making our own decisions about things. Or, should we just trust you to make those decisions for us? Thanks, but no thanks - and I can't honestly expect to think you'd want me making any decisions for you either. Seems a bit hypocritical, telling the free thinkers not to listen to her opinion and to listen to yours instead, wouldn't you say? Oh, and so you'll be sure to notice my point, I better add: Shut your big yap! You're a punk-ass bully who couldn't resist a slam if your life depended on it! And you know what else? Your mom wears soiled laderhosen! Dick wad. > -----Original Message----- > From: Gary Jacques [SMTP:jacques@colorite-resins.com] > Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 11:20 AM > To: 'mad-mission@smoe.org' > Subject: MM: NPC: Thanks > > The Evil One would like to thank all those that came to my defense this > week. Even though I think it made some of you sick to do so. LOL. > Those are the kind of free thinkers that make this a great site. As for > those that caused me grief, Lizzard come lately and her band of much > more holy than thou big yap friends. You are the biggest bunch of > hypocrites I have ever seen. You totally missed my point. Your big yap > buddy that called attention to the concert, protesting the NRA, is being > held at the same time the Republican Convention is being held in Philly. > There was a political agenda being pushed at people. And if you had any > brains at all you would have figured it out. I'm not a Republican. I'm > not a Dem. And I despise the NRA. I do live outside of Philly. The > convention is a good thing for the city and the surrounding area. > PS..I can't wait for Patty's new CD. If the play list is in fact what > has been rumored, I will already have heard most if not all of the > songs. Should be great. > Thanks again folks, > Evil Gary > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 16:13:10 -0400 From: "Donald Henn" Subject: MM: review- Tacoma News Tribune 6-11-00 Excerpt- Adding to the rock 'n' roll element of the evening was the Chicks' tasteful choice for an opening act. Austin songstress Patty Griffin. Griffin , whose jagged , heartfelt pop came through loud & clear during her all-too-brief opening set , joined the Chicks during their set for a stripped-down , acoustic rendition of her own "Let Him Fly". ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 16:33:37 -0400 From: "Donald Henn" Subject: MM: review Portland Oregonian 6-13-00 Excerpt- Never mind: Sunday's show was worth every dollar. Though it did seem a bit dodgy there after Patty Griffin's set (which was tragically marred by a hideous , boomy, earsplitting mix & guitars that made no sound -- and then too much. But which still wheeted the appetite for her new album due this fall). After Griffin & band decamped , the stage was shrouded in a huge scrim painted as a pair of blue jeans with the fly, front & center ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 16:53:01 EDT From: Nursegrrl8@aol.com Subject: MM: TOTALLY OFF TOPIC Better Than Ezra is not confirmed for the SLAM3 concert. For the record, I am not a politically active person. I believe what I believe. I am registered a democrat but am for the death penalty. I am into this concert for the music and if the money goes towards a cause I believe in, I will donate my time willingly. I was at that Ani concert at the mann. I too hated that she was defending a cop killer but I stayed to enjoy her music. While I don't agree with the stance she took on this particular subject, I respect her for speaking out on political issues. I think everyone in the audience can decide for themselves. Does Patty ever speak politically or play any charity concerts? Joanne ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 17:01:43 -0400 From: "Donald Henn" Subject: MM: excerpt from Sacramento Bee review 6-17-00 The Dixie chicks invited Patty Griffin , an Austin , Texas , folk-rocker , to open the show. She wrote their song , "Fly" & retuned to the stage to share a red sofa with the Chicks , & take the lead in singing it Correction: Patty's opening act in SF was Christy McWilson ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 21:05:29 GMT From: "That Loud Girl" Subject: MM: NPC: shameless promo of self >As long as you put NPC, or at least have some pertinent Patty info within >your email to the mailing list.. I welcome anyone to tell me about their >music. With that invitation, I'll chime in...I'm Shelley Miller, a solo singer/songwriter sort and 1/2 of Moon Lodge (a music/spoken word performance duo)--we have a website at www.go.to/themoonlodge , with lyrics, photos (I'm the tall one with short hair), poetry, and a schedule...and for those of you in the Chicago area, I'll be doing a show on Sunday, July 9th at Burkhart Studios, 2845 N. Halsted, Chicago with the fabulously talented Aerin Tedesco)...and if you ask reeeaaaally nice, I might sing Forgiveness for you ;) E-mail me for more info. Take care, Shelley ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 18:12:56 -0300 From: David Lewis Subject: Re: MM: excerpt from Sacramento Bee review 6-17-00 on 6/20/00 6:01 PM, Donald Henn at donhenn@msn.com wrote: > The Dixie chicks invited Patty Griffin , an > Austin , Texas , folk-rocker , to open the show. > She wrote their song , "Fly" & retuned to the > stage to share a red sofa with the Chicks , & > take the lead in singing it She wrote "their song" Fly? Ouch! Shouldn't that read "The Dixie Chicks covered Patty's song 'Fly'"? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 14:57:58 PDT From: "Paul Russell" Subject: MM: I'm dyin here Ouch Meghan! You're killing me. Did you just make fun of my fiance'...uh, ex fiance'? I liked Ms. Sheryl Crow alright for a while until one night a few years ago I was flipping through the channels and there she was in all her glory on Austin City Limits. What amazed me is that she sounded like she was going hoarse at the end of the show, yet she was STILL hitting those notes beautifully. And that was it, I had to marry her....until Laetitia Casta came along. And Don!! You are the mac daddy! The internet dude! Those reviews are fab. Well, not all great towards Ms. Griffin, but just the fact that you're finding them and pasting them is gooder than good. I'd be surprised at these reviews being incredibly positive on Ms. Griffin's side just because the reviewer is a country music fan going to see the Dixie chicks...or wondering why Ricky Scaggs or Willie Nelson isn't opening for the Chickies in THEIR arena. There's gonna be some bias, but it was funny to read that one review say "it was a stripped down version of 'let him fly'." Oh really? how could it be more stripped than the accoustic version on "living with ghosts?" Take the guitar out or something? Funnay stuff. And did I read that review right? Patty Griffin and Sheryl Crow are friends???? Do you think Ms. Griffin could introduce me or something? Imagine, me with Patty Griffin on one side, Sheryl Crow on the other side, and three pints of Guinness in front of me. And what if they were singing a duet...just for me. (Sheryl and Patty, not the beer.) God, take me then because it wouldn't get any better than that. But now I'm going to finish work here, then have a few drinks for poor Sheryl Crow being tortured by Meghan. Imagine...me, finishing up my post early. :P paul *********************************** * Don't ask me 'Hank, why do you * * drink.' and 'Hank, why do you * * roll smoke. 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