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A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V3 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. mad-mission-digest Saturday, December 4 1999 Volume 03 : Number 338 Today's Subjects: ----------------- MM:Christmas CD [Cdqn37@aol.com] Re: MM:Christmas CD ["Sherie" ] Re: MM:Christmas CD [Amy Suzanne Butler ] MM: Patty Reviews? ["Donald Henn" ] MM: No Geeks Here! ["Donald Henn" ] MM: Patty in Jail !!! ["Donald Henn" ] MM: Patty Griffin at the concert for No Landmines- Santa Rosa-Dec 2 [Ever] Re: MM: No Geeks Here! ["Sherie" ] Re: MM: Patty Griffin at the concert for No Landmines- Santa Rosa-Dec 2 [] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 12:03:13 EST From: Cdqn37@aol.com Subject: MM:Christmas CD Hey MM gang! I just purchased an early Christmas present for myself-Jewel's most excellent holiday collection...and I started thinking...I would most definately put a Patty Griffin Christmas CD at the top of my wish list. Perhaps you all would enjoy adding the track that you would most want to hear on it. We may even be able to give it a title or add a network special with special guests. I know it is a busy time of year and all are busy, but perhaps we could kick it around alittle. Give it some thought (Mr. Mudd) and respond. I'm not ready to reveal the cut I want on the CD but, as anyone who knows me would know, my choice for special guest on the NBC special would be Dar Williams singing "the Christians and the Pagans." Seasons Greetings and please respond or I will feel like a geek!! Patty ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 12:32:08 -0500 From: "Sherie" Subject: Re: MM:Christmas CD Hi Patty and Patty-lover! I just joined the list because the music of Patty Griffin has captured my soul! My favorite track changes from time to time, but right now I'm hooked on "Every Little Bit" so I guess that is the one I'd put on my Christmas list ; ) Love the lyrics and the chord progressions. I am looking forward to lots of great Patty-related info! Cheers! Sherie On 4 Dec 99, at 12:03, Cdqn37@aol.com wrote: > Hey MM gang! I just purchased an early Christmas present for myself-Jewel's > most excellent holiday collection...and I started thinking...I would most > definately put a Patty Griffin Christmas CD at the top of my wish list. > Perhaps you all would enjoy adding the track that you would most want to hear > on it. We may even be able to give it a title or add a network special with > special guests. I know it is a busy time of year and all are busy, but > perhaps we could kick it around alittle. Give it some thought (Mr. Mudd) and > respond. > > I'm not ready to reveal the cut I want on the CD but, as anyone who knows me > would know, my choice for special guest on the NBC special would be Dar > Williams singing "the Christians and the Pagans." Seasons Greetings and > please respond or I will feel like a geek!! Patty > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 12:31:00 -0500 (EST) From: Amy Suzanne Butler Subject: Re: MM:Christmas CD A Patty X-mas CD would be a *fantabulous* stocking stuffer pour moi! I'd most like to hear "Santa Baby" (slow 'n' sultry), "Let it Snow" and (the very traditional but my most favorite all-time Christmas song) "O Holy Night." That song brings tears to my eyes every time I hear it -- not the words, but the dramatic crescendo and decrescendo. Patty's voice would definitely give me goosebumps. I also think "Merry Christmas Baby" and "Please Come Home for Christmas" would be great additions. Call me mainstream, but I think a Lilith Fair Christmas special would be awsome -- Patty, Sarah McLachlan, Indigo Girls, Sheryl Crow, Emmylou Harris, Bonnie Raitt, Shawn Colvin, Liz Berlin, Me'shell Ndegeocello, Pretneders. . .and on and on and on. This show would have to be, like, four hours or so. Okay -- only in my dreams. Feliz Navidad! (sp??? :-) Amy On Sat, 4 Dec 1999 Cdqn37@aol.com wrote: > Hey MM gang! I just purchased an early Christmas present for myself-Jewel's > most excellent holiday collection...and I started thinking...I would most > definately put a Patty Griffin Christmas CD at the top of my wish list. > Perhaps you all would enjoy adding the track that you would most want to hear > on it. We may even be able to give it a title or add a network special with > special guests. I know it is a busy time of year and all are busy, but > perhaps we could kick it around alittle. Give it some thought (Mr. Mudd) and > respond. > > I'm not ready to reveal the cut I want on the CD but, as anyone who knows me > would know, my choice for special guest on the NBC special would be Dar > Williams singing "the Christians and the Pagans." Seasons Greetings and > please respond or I will feel like a geek!! Patty > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 12:48:39 -0500 From: "Donald Henn" Subject: MM: Patty Reviews? MMers, I've been watching for reviews , or even a mention of Patty's performances at the Land Mine Free World benefit in California this week. Any west coasters out there? Since there's no news on Patty , I'll have to subject you all to my review of Fiona Apple on David Letterman last night. Her performance of "Fast as You Can" knocked me out again. Again , because her performance of "Criminal" on an earlier show did the same. So , when it comes to the Letterman show , Fiona is ahead of Patty in great performances by 2 to 1. I sent for her new CD earlier this week & if it's anything close to "Tidal" she may steal as much as 5-10% of my loyalties away from Patty. Which may be a good thing , because since I received the rarities tape & attended her 3 concerts two weekends ago , I've been in an obsessive state about Patty's music. I'll keep everyone posted on the progress of the compilation. I hope we get a lot of lead time on the Sessions announcement so that I can either add it or have the tape done before she appears. Music is playing Inside my head Over and over And over again My friend There is no end To the music Carole King "Music" Don ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 13:36:39 -0500 From: "Donald Henn" Subject: MM: No Geeks Here! Hi , Patty ! I wouldn't want you to feel like a geek , so I'm responding immediately. I'm a little confused. Are you suggesting a compililation of existing Patty songs or what? Sherie seems to think that's the case , but Amy seems to anticipate Patty producing new music for it. My Xmas ideas involve giving at least 4 people both of Patty's CDs. Whatever the case , I hope that Patty & her fans all get what they want for Christmas. Joyeaux Noel , Don ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 14:29:52 -0500 From: "Donald Henn" Subject: MM: Patty in Jail !!! MMers , I thought that would get your attention! No , Patty's not in jail , but she would be if she was in Lebanon. Marcel Khalife , a Lebanese musician who has performed all over the world , is facing a prison term of 6 months to 3 years for blasphemy. His offense was using a phrase from the Koran in one of his songs. The following is verbatim from the Washington Post article by Lee Hockstader; "I dreamt of 11 planets And of the sun & the moon All kneeling before me" That stanza raised the ire of the Dar al-Fatwa , the senior Sunni Muslim authority in Lebanon. Quoting from the Koran is fine , the clerics said , but setting it's verses to music & accompanying it with instruments is off-limits "When you include a musical instrument to accompany the Koran , you go beyond the respect due the word of God on Earth ," said Mohammed Kabaneh , the grand mufti. "There are rules that must be respected. This issue has nothing to do with freedom. An artist can use the words written by people as he wishes , but he doesn't have the right to use the word of God." Really? Thank God , that God has the grand mufti around to protect His word from blasphemers like Marcel , keeping us all from burning in in the eternal fires of hell. The main reason I'm posting this is to , hopefully , spread the word of this archaic philosphy around as much as possible & exhort anyone with any influence , especially artists , to raise their voices against it. Musicians & other artists around the world should waste no time denouncing these power hungry , dogma driven , religious figures who believe that their concept of a higher power is the only true one. I hope that any MMer who belongs to other lists would forward this , and if anyone is aware of a general music list with a wider audience , I would like them to inform me of it , & I'll be happy to take this there. For anyone who is interested , I'm also posting the full text of the article , thanks to the Washington Post web site. Worn out and holy Father do you know your son Holy as Jesus Father do you know his name Me and my red shoes There were two now there is one Nothing can please us They told me that his name was Cain Patty Griffin Patty Griffin "Flaming Red" "Cain" Jesus left a love divine I heard them ringing the bells Then He disappeared In heaven and hell Jesus left a love divine They got a secret But He didn't leave it here They're getting ready to tell Patty Griffin Patty Griffin "Twisted Road" "Forgiveness" Don ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 17:09:54 EST From: Everyman7@aol.com Subject: MM: Patty Griffin at the concert for No Landmines- Santa Rosa-Dec 2 Subj: Patty Griffin at the Concert for No Landmines- Santa Rosa- Dec 2 Date: Saturday, December 4, 1999 1:39:50 AM Hi Paul- yes, I was thinking of you last night and wondering how your concert at Stanford on Dec 1 was. Masaki and I drove from Berkeley up to Santa Rosa the long way, thru the wineries- I have never been there before, so it was really a nice drive. We found the Luther Burbank Center, and then went out to dinner and were way early still for the concert- so, we sat and people watched until show time. Patty was awesome- I thought every song she did her voice was flawless. The version of Sweet Lorraine was really good- you could understand every word- each phrase so definitive to the story unfolding. I think many people in the older audience probably had never heard of her before, but they were pretty wowed. Next round she did Makin' Pies, which I had heard about on my Mad Mission list, but not heard yet. Another beautiful and quietly heartbreaking statement about the further losses of war as life goes on after a woman's fiance was killed with the bombs.{ My understanding after hearing it only once.} You could cry or die or make pies. Then she did a cover of Tomorrow Night, which I have heard her do twice before, plus it is on Rarities 2- I am not crazy about that bluesy style of music, but she did a great version of it- very polished compared to when I first heard it last spring at the Iron Horse. It is growing on me. She closed with Mary- as always breathtaking- {tied for my Patty Griffin fave with Not Alone}. You got a fifth song out of her at your concert!!! One Big Love is a rocker, and brings me back to that car ride I told you about -driving down all night to North Carolina from Connecticut with my kids asleep in the back, in the dark, the day I first got that Flaming Red tape - quite high- new Patty tape, vacation- all is right with the world feeling. I have followed Nanci Griffith and Emmylou Harris for a few years, never saw them before- I enjoyed finally seeing them live- never heard John Prine before- he was good- I love Jackson Browne and Bonnie Raitt's version of Angel From Montgomery- so It was very interesting to me to hear him do it with Bonnie Raitt, Just like at Concord,CA on the Sensitive Ones tour- the audience raved when she made a surprise visit onstage- no surprise to me tho, as we had seen her before the show, buying one of the silk scarves made by the amputees in Cambodia. Also Steve Earle was very good- I had heard of him , but never heard his music. I would like to see both John Prine and Steve Earle at the Freight & Salvage some time. I saw Bruce Cockburn last year also at Sedona- he is just an incredible guitarist- I can imagine you watching him with a grin on your face, awed. It was also the first time I had seen Masaki's favorite- Nina Gerber- the late Kate Wolf's{The angel of California folk music to quote Nanci Griffith} back up guitarist- Like David Lindley for Jackson - a special gifted natural guitarist. I would have loved just Patty for two hours- as you said, it was a little too much- maybe four singers in the round would be enough. You only got a little bit from each one. Not enough of Patty, for sure. It was a wonderful concert tho- and I was happy for my Patty being up there with all those longtimers. At intermission, I passed up a note to the backup guitar guy and asked him to give it to Patty, which he apparently did. I asked her to play Shells, which I only know from the Rarities 2 tape- never heard her do it in concert. I said it would be perfect for the theme of this concert. She came out and said, she had gotten a request, and yes it would be perfect, but she wasn't going to do it. I was ok about it- I knew she wouldn't want to do it onstage if she didn't have it ready- I was hoping she was planning on it tho- at least I reminded her that she has that song in the closet- maybe she will pull it out now. I would love to see it go on her next album which she is working on. It is a heart breaking shocker, like Not Alone- very beautiful- about a half dozen children being ambushed and killed in Bosnia during a supposed ceasefire. It would make a moving anti war video also- as in the no landmines theme- the real cost of the violence of war being the individual innocent lives ruined forever, from the mother's point of view- "no little kisses good bye". Anyway- there you are- I think she was the best of the bunch- not in her guitar skills- Bruce was the giant there- but her songs are just so powerful- and her voice so interesting- not really a perfect voice- ok she isn't an opera singer- but she is so much more human and interesting to listen to- she is shy onstage- doesn't come out until she starts singing- then she blossoms. Cheers, Dana - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 17:58:02 -0500 From: "Sherie" Subject: Re: MM: No Geeks Here! LOL Don! I just went back and read Patty's message, and it would seem that I can't read very well. What a *GREAT* way to introduce myself..."Hi, I'm Sherie, and I really need to get hooked on phonics" : ) I guess if the CD was for X-mas and was to feature X-mas songs I'd have to go with Amy on "O Holy Night." I can almost hear her doing it in my head and it is a total "WOW!!!" Other's I'd like to hear..."Silent Night," "Rockin' aroudn the X-mas Tree" and of course, "Rudolph with your Flaming Red Nose so Bright" ; ) Now it it was a CD where we could have her sing ANYTHING, I think I'd have her do a few old Bessie Smith songs. Rory Block has covered some of Bessie's material, and I really love it, but I think Patty's voice would bring more to the material than Rory's (eg. "Do you Duty"). Actually, she could probably do anything and make it sound great. Well that's about it.. Take Care, Sherie On 4 Dec 99, at 13:36, Donald Henn wrote: > Hi , Patty ! > > I wouldn't want you to feel like a geek , so I'm responding > immediately. I'm a little confused. Are you suggesting a > compililation of existing Patty songs or what? Sherie seems to > think that's the case , but Amy seems to anticipate Patty > producing new music for it. My Xmas ideas involve giving at > least 4 people both of Patty's CDs. Whatever the case , I hope that > Patty & her fans all get what they want for Christmas. > > Joyeaux Noel , > > Don > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 17:58:02 -0500 From: "Sherie" Subject: Re: MM: Patty Griffin at the concert for No Landmines- Santa Rosa-Dec 2 WOW! Thanks for the write-up Dana! How lucky you are!! Patty, John Prine and Nancy Grifftith! It is great to know that John Prine is out and singing again (according to a recent interview on NPR he has just recovered from neck cancer). I love his music -- sometimes I find myself sitting alone listening to one of his songs and I have to chuckle because he is so able to capture the essence of almost everything. Nancy and Dar Williams are going to be playing at Carnegie Music Hall in Pittsburgh or Dec. 15. I've never seen them play live either, but I'm looking forward to the show. So, does Patty come to the East Coast to tour much? I'm dying to see her live, but from her past tours it doesn't seem like she comes my way that much Cheers! Sherie On 4 Dec 99, at 17:09, Everyman7@aol.com wrote: > > Subj: Patty Griffin at the Concert for No Landmines- Santa Rosa- Dec 2 > Date: Saturday, December 4, 1999 1:39:50 AM > > > > Hi Paul- yes, I was thinking of you last night and wondering how your concert > at Stanford on Dec 1 was. > Masaki and I drove from Berkeley up to Santa Rosa the long way, thru the > wineries- I have never been there before, so it was really a nice drive. We > found the Luther Burbank Center, and then went out to dinner and were way > early still for the concert- so, we sat and people watched until show time. > Patty was awesome- I thought every song she did her voice was flawless. The > version of Sweet Lorraine was really good- you could understand every word- > each phrase so definitive to the story unfolding. I think many people in the > older audience probably had never heard of her before, but they were pretty > wowed. Next round she did Makin' Pies, which I had heard about on my Mad > Mission list, but not heard yet. Another beautiful and quietly heartbreaking > statement about the further losses of war as life goes on after a woman's > fiance was killed with the bombs.{ My understanding after hearing it only > once.} You could cry or die or make pies. Then she did a cover of Tomorrow > Night, which I have heard her do twice before, plus it is on Rarities 2- I am > not crazy about that bluesy style of music, but she did a great version of > it- very polished compared to when I first heard it last spring at the Iron > Horse. It is growing on me. She closed with Mary- as always breathtaking- > {tied for my Patty Griffin fave with Not Alone}. You got a fifth song out of > her at your concert!!! One Big Love is a rocker, and brings me back to that > car ride I told you about -driving down all night to North Carolina from > Connecticut with my kids asleep in the back, in the dark, the day I first got > that Flaming Red tape - quite high- new Patty tape, vacation- all is right > with the world feeling. I have followed Nanci Griffith and Emmylou Harris for > a few years, never saw them before- I enjoyed finally seeing them live- never > heard John Prine before- he was good- I love Jackson Browne and Bonnie > Raitt's version of Angel From Montgomery- so It was very interesting to me to > hear him do it with Bonnie Raitt, Just like at Concord,CA on the Sensitive > Ones tour- the audience raved when she made a surprise visit onstage- no > surprise to me tho, as we had seen her before the show, buying one of the > silk scarves made by the amputees in Cambodia. Also Steve Earle was very > good- I had heard of him , but never heard his music. I would like to see > both John Prine and Steve Earle at the Freight & Salvage some time. I saw > Bruce Cockburn last year also at Sedona- he is just an incredible guitarist- > I can imagine you watching him with a grin on your face, awed. It was also > the first time I had seen Masaki's favorite- Nina Gerber- the late Kate > Wolf's{The angel of California folk music to quote Nanci Griffith} back up > guitarist- Like David Lindley for Jackson - a special gifted natural > guitarist. > I would have loved just Patty for two hours- as you said, it was a little > too much- maybe four singers in the round would be enough. You only got a > little bit from each one. Not enough of Patty, for sure. It was a wonderful > concert tho- and I was happy for my Patty being up there with all those > longtimers. > At intermission, I passed up a note to the backup guitar guy and asked him > to give it to Patty, which he apparently did. I asked her to play Shells, > which I only know from the Rarities 2 tape- never heard her do it in concert. > I said it would be perfect for the theme of this concert. She came out and > said, she had gotten a request, and yes it would be perfect, but she wasn't > going to do it. I was ok about it- I knew she wouldn't want to do it onstage > if she didn't have it ready- I was hoping she was planning on it tho- at > least I reminded her that she has that song in the closet- maybe she will > pull it out now. I would love to see it go on her next album which she is > working on. It is a heart breaking shocker, like Not Alone- very beautiful- > about a half dozen children being ambushed and killed in Bosnia during a > supposed ceasefire. It would make a moving anti war video also- as in the no > landmines theme- the real cost of the violence of war being the individual > innocent lives ruined forever, from the mother's point of view- "no little > kisses good bye". > Anyway- there you are- I think she was the best of the bunch- not in her > guitar skills- Bruce was the giant there- but her songs are just so > powerful- and her voice so interesting- not really a perfect voice- ok she > isn't an opera singer- but she is so much more human and interesting to > listen to- she is shy onstage- doesn't come out until she starts singing- > then she blossoms. > Cheers, Dana > > > > - > ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V3 #338 *********************************