From: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org (mad-mission-digest) To: mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Subject: mad-mission-digest V3 #326 Reply-To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sender: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * mad-mission-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Patty's tour dates, go to: * http://www.spectra.net/~ducksoup/pattyg/patttyg.htm * OR * go to http://www.amrecords.com * then click "tour" and fill in the blanks :) * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V3 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. mad-mission-digest Friday, November 19 1999 Volume 03 : Number 326 Today's Subjects: ----------------- MM: Patty w/ Emmylou 1st week of December [ABershaw@aol.com] MM: Patty w/Emmylou [ruby maroon ] MM: Fez et al. ["Perlman, Judith" ] Re: MM: Fez et al. ["Ata Rivers" ] MM: Philly show? [runrunrun@dellmail.com] MM: Rarities I Tape ["Donald Henn" ] MM: Re: Every Little Bit ["Donald Henn" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 13:11:36 EST From: ABershaw@aol.com Subject: MM: Patty w/ Emmylou 1st week of December Hi all, Ran across this today. I don't know which gigs will feature Patty, but this should at least be helpful to California folks. All the best, Alan Emmylou Harris is bringing a special series of guitar shows to the West Coast beginning December 1. Here are the dates and locations: 12/01/99 Palo Alto CA Stanford University 12/02/99 Santa Rosa CA Luther Burbank Center 12/03/99 Torrance CA El Camino College 12/04/99 La Jolla CA University Of California 12/05/99 Santa Barbara CA University Of California Each concert will include Emmylou and Steve Earle with at least five of the following on each date. Rotating guests include: Bruce Cockburn, Patty Griffin, Nanci Griffith, John Prine, Mary Chapin Carpenter, Guy Clark, Terry Allen, Gillian Welch & David Rawlings, Kris Kristofferson, and Willie Nelson. The concerts will benefit the Campaign for a Landmine-free world. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 10:56:52 -0800 (PST) From: ruby maroon Subject: MM: Patty w/Emmylou Well I know for a fact she wont be at Santa Barbara show. I live here and called and called she wont be here. It was my thought that Patty would only be at the Santa Rosa show and the Stanford University one, but who really knows. Ruby ===== "Did she make you cry.. Make you break down.. Shatter your illusions of love Is it over now--do you know how Pick up the pieces and go home?"Gold Dust Woman Stevie Nicks __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 14:08:13 -0500 From: "Perlman, Judith" Subject: MM: Fez et al. I will be going to the 8 show on Sunday night. Does anyone want to meet? I've suggested this before but it never seems to work out. Not that I have a complex about it or anything. On a non Patty matter, did anyone see Tori Amos on The Daily Show with Jon Stewart the other night? I know many people on this list are fans of hers. I thought it was strange, to say the least. But maybe those who know her better can explain it to me. Actually, I thought she was being very subtly funny, but it's impossible to tell for sure. That's all folks. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 12:29:59 PST From: "Ata Rivers" Subject: Re: MM: Fez et al. I want to go but I'll be out of town. I hope everyone has a great time and I wish I could be there. Don't forget to arrive early or you'll wind up standing or worse. cheers >From: "Perlman, Judith" >To: "'mad-mission@smoe.org'" >Subject: MM: Fez et al. >Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 14:08:13 -0500 > >I will be going to the 8 show on Sunday night. Does anyone want to meet? >I've suggested this before but it never seems to work out. Not that I have >a complex about it or anything. > >On a non Patty matter, did anyone see Tori Amos on The Daily Show with Jon >Stewart the other night? I know many people on this list are fans of hers. >I thought it was strange, to say the least. But maybe those who know her >better can explain it to me. Actually, I thought she was being very subtly >funny, but it's impossible to tell for sure. > >That's all folks. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 15:59:18 -0500 (EST) From: runrunrun@dellmail.com Subject: MM: Philly show? hey everyone - I was wondering if anybody was going to the Philly show. I want to, REALLY BAD - but.....I can't drive, and my parents don't understand my love for Patty's music. It's just 2 hours away from where I live! That's nothing! So, if anyone is going, could you give a review on how awfully great it was?! I really wish I was going..... ........((*.*))..........................DARCIE......... "i chose to dance across the stages of the world..." -stevie nicks '97 - -------------------------------------------------------- Get your free DellMail address at http://www.dellnet.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 19:31:57 -0500 From: "Donald Henn" Subject: MM: Rarities I Tape Big thanks to Stephanie, Dana, Mike Connell, & Patty Griffin. Due to their efforts, I now have a brand-new rarities I tape. I listened to it once & found a few gems already. I'm sure the rest will grow on me, as the rest of Patty's music does. Now I have over 3 hours of Patty music to listen to as I drive to Philly & New York for the concerts. "With the light in our eyes It's hard to see, holding on & on 'til we believe" Heather Nova " Walk this World" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 23:57:54 -0500 From: "Donald Henn" Subject: MM: Re: Every Little Bit - ----- Original Message ----- From: Manon, Naomi C. To: Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 1:57 PM Subject: MM: Every Little Bit > Hey all, > I'm still trying to think of my favorite patty experience, but I have a > question for ya'll. > My friend and I have been discussing Every Little Bit and what it's about. > I was wondering if people have insight into this, or know from some source > about the whole story. > Just wondering what people are thinking... > > Nomi > > A little late & a little long, (Actually a dissertation) but here goes. As far back as I can remember, I liked music. At the age most kids get caught up in it, (10-15?) rock & roll was just starting to take over. From then on, I loved it. Music was the first thing that made me feel something other than pain or desire. At the time, I just enjoyed it, not getting intellectually caught up in the meaning, assuming that it meant exactly what I felt it meant, to myself & the writer. Over the years I discovered that meaning is not so easily under- - -stood, in lyrics or any other facet of life. Often, I would find that I heard words incorrectly. One of the best examples of this was "Eleanor Rigby" by the Beatles.I always thought the line was "look at all the lovely people" , and was meant to be sarcastic about those who are well-dressed & pious as they go to church, yet are insensitive to those close to them who are not of their "class". When I discovered that it was actually "look at all the lonely people", it changed the meaning entirely to me. Rather than seeing it as a criticism of the their attitudes, it became a comment on those who try, but do not understand that religion is about the entire human community, & as a result feel unfulfilled (lonely). Once, I was very surprised to hear Bob Dylan complain about people always grilling him on the meaning of his lyrics. Until then, I always thought that the writers had a very clear understanding of their lyrics meanings & consciously generated them. Now I believe that the greatest lyrics are those that come unprompted to the writer, & that one persons guess as to what they mean is as good as anothers, including the writer. Of course that wouldn't apply to lyrics written about personal events, as I'm sure "Every Little Bit" is. I don't agree that "Every Little Bit " is about two separate relationships. I can see how one could think that, in that she goes back & forth between past & present tense, but I think that is just stream-of-consciousness as she moves from how she feels now to the memories of the past. My guess is that this song was generated by recurring memories of a relationship that she got whenever self-doubt would start creeping up. The very first line seems very telling, "It's funny how a morning turns a love to shame". To me, it means that she suddenly realized that the relationship, to him, was more about his lust than their love. I also think that the lines about living with ghosts & him never getting within a hundred million miles of her soul are associated. I would imagine she withdrew emotionally after her disappointment. I was disappointed at the line, "I can't blame you for leaving". There's nothing in the song that indicates she tried to communicate her feelings, apparently showing that she had resigned herself to staying in a distant relationship. I don't think I've ever tried to intellectually analyze the meaning of an entire song before. I find it so fascinating, I could probably go on for hours, but as I read the lyrics over & over, I find the song so personal that I think I would feel embarrassed talking about some of my observations. I have a great deal of respect for artists like Patty who are emotionally strong enough to show their personal side.For those of you who didn't fall asleep, I hope you enjoy the Patty shows this weekend. I'm going to! "Come mothers & fathers throughout the land and don't criticize what you don't understand your sons & your daughters are beyond your command your old road is rapidly agin' please get out of the new one if you can't lend a hand for the times they are a'changin' " Bob Dylan "The Times They Are A'changin' " Don Henn ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V3 #326 *********************************