From: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org (mad-mission-digest) To: mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Subject: mad-mission-digest V3 #290 Reply-To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sender: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * mad-mission-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Patty's tour dates, go to: * http://www.spectra.net/~ducksoup/pattyg/patttyg.htm * OR * go to http://www.amrecords.com * then click "tour" and fill in the blanks :) * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V3 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. mad-mission-digest Monday, October 11 1999 Volume 03 : Number 290 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Fwd: MM: mad mission MISSION!!! [Femboty2k@aol.com] MM: Patty's "look" ["C. Minter" ] MM: Re: Patty's "look" ["Greg Pendleton" ] Re: MM: Patty's "look"...possibly an explanation?? [UMCaner74@aol.com] MM: NPC - a little boy needs help [Mike Connell Received: from rly-ya04.mx.aol.com (rly-ya04.mail.aol.com [172.18.144.196]) by air-ya01.mail.aol.com (vx) with ESMTP; Sat, 09 Oct 1999 22:05:54 -0400 Received: from rly-st06.mail.aol.com (rly-st06.mail.aol.com [172.31.34.5]) by rly-ya04.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id WAA21309; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 22:05:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rly-yd01.mx.aol.com (rly-yd01.mail.aol.com [172.18.150.1]) by rly-st06.mail.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id KAA20356; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 10:30:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from chmls05.mediaone.net (ne.mediaone.net [24.128.1.70]) by rly-yd01.mx.aol.com (v61.13) with ESMTP; Sat, 09 Oct 1999 10:30:08 -0400 Received: from smoe.org (jane.smoe.org [24.30.216.55]) by chmls05.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA07184; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 10:30:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) with SMTP id KAA07852; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 10:28:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.10); Sat, 9 Oct 1999 10:28:42 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) id KAA07845 for mad-mission-outgoing; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 10:28:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from FergInc.com (toth.ferginc.com [205.139.23.69]) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-jane) with ESMTP id KAA07841 for ; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 10:28:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ferginc.com ([172.25.44.75]) by FergInc.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA63414 for ; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 10:28:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <37FF4D58.CEA73D6D@ferginc.com> Date: Sat, 09 Oct 1999 10:12:41 -0400 From: Darren Sweeney Organization: Ferguson Enterprises, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mad-mission Subject: MM: mad mission MISSION!!! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-mad-mission@smoe.org Precedence: bulk MAD MISSIONERS, THIS BALTIMORE MISSIONER IS LOOKING TO FIND SOME PATTI BOOTS. CAN ANYONE OUT THERE HELP ME COMPLETE MY MISSION? DJS - --part1_0.87c3abe.25321593_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 18:19:35 -0500 From: "C. Minter" Subject: MM: Patty's "look" Hey all, I've been reading the recent posts on Patty's supposed "What the hell?" outfits and I must say that it reminds me of a comment a fellow MM'er once wrote to me upon reading my enthusiastic review of my 1st Patty concert experience. I have no idea if this person is still on the list, but I won't mention his name either way. This person privately emailed me after reading my post and pointed out all the negative aspects of Patty's show, one of them being her outfit. Patty was wearing an (in my opinion) awesome silver body-hugging dress, a small black jacket (which she later took off), and some cool black boots. I thought she looked wonderful and certainly was able to pull off a revealing outfit MUCH better than I could. The MM'er who emailed me called Patty's outfit "embarrassing" and then commented on Patty's lack of stage presence. After disagreeing with him on certain aspects of the imperfect show, he revealed that it was his WIFE and her female friend who first pointed out how "embarrassing" Patty looked and criticized her outfit. Once this was disclosed to me it made TOTAL sense. Women can be each other's worst enemies. Guys, I love ya, but you have NO idea how cutting women can be towards each other. I've been guilty of it myself, but now that I've grown up, I can appreciate a woman's freedom to express her personal style. The reason I'm bringing this up is because I've noticed that the MM'ers recently commenting on Patty's outfits are women. I have this to say to you: Patty is an artist. She is a creative being who may choose to express that through her clothing, her music, her writing, whatever. If she's in a quirky mood or feels like pushing the envelope with some nice spiky pumps or skin-tight pants, so be it. To others it may be a "what the hell" outfit, but I say go for it Patty! I LOVE the way she dresses and I love watching her stage presence/confidence grow each time I see her. Now, many people on this list are very sensitive and probably think I'm attacking THEM for attacking Patty's clothes. All I'm doing is asking you to stop criticizing her outfits and get back to talking about her music. (Even with that semi-disclaimer, I'm sure I'll get flamed anyway...) -Cristina *************************************** "No one dared, no one cared to tell me where the pretty girls are--those demi-gods-- with their nine-inch nails and little fascist panties tucked inside the heart of every nice girl." -Tori Amos, "Precious Things" **************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 21:44:30 -0400 From: "Greg Pendleton" Subject: MM: Re: Patty's "look" I thought Patty looked great, but didn't think about it all that much. Why all the focus on her attire? I just enjoyed the fabulous performance. Greg - ----- Original Message ----- From: C. Minter To: Sent: Sunday, October 10, 1999 7:19 PM Subject: MM: Patty's "look" > Hey all, > I've been reading the recent posts on Patty's supposed "What the hell?" > outfits and I must say that it reminds me of a comment a fellow MM'er once > wrote to me upon reading my enthusiastic review of my 1st Patty concert > experience. I have no idea if this person is still on the list, but I won't > mention his name either way. This person privately emailed me after reading > my post and pointed out all the negative aspects of Patty's show, one of > them being her outfit. Patty was wearing an (in my opinion) awesome silver > body-hugging dress, a small black jacket (which she later took off), and > some cool black boots. I thought she looked wonderful and certainly was able > to pull off a revealing outfit MUCH better than I could. The MM'er who > emailed me called Patty's outfit "embarrassing" and then commented on > Patty's lack of stage presence. After disagreeing with him on certain > aspects of the imperfect show, he revealed that it was his WIFE and her > female friend who first pointed out how "embarrassing" Patty looked and > criticized her outfit. Once this was disclosed to me it made TOTAL sense. > Women can be each other's worst enemies. Guys, I love ya, but you have NO > idea how cutting women can be towards each other. I've been guilty of it > myself, but now that I've grown up, I can appreciate a woman's freedom to > express her personal style. The reason I'm bringing this up is because I've > noticed that the MM'ers recently commenting on Patty's outfits are women. I > have this to say to you: Patty is an artist. She is a creative being who may > choose to express that through her clothing, her music, her writing, > whatever. If she's in a quirky mood or feels like pushing the envelope with > some nice spiky pumps or skin-tight pants, so be it. To others it may be a > "what the hell" outfit, but I say go for it Patty! I LOVE the way she > dresses and I love watching her stage presence/confidence grow each time I > see her. Now, many people on this list are very sensitive and probably think > I'm attacking THEM for attacking Patty's clothes. All I'm doing is asking > you to stop criticizing her outfits and get back to talking about her music. > (Even with that semi-disclaimer, I'm sure I'll get flamed anyway...) > -Cristina > > *************************************** > "No one dared, no one cared to tell me > where the pretty girls are--those demi-gods-- > with their nine-inch nails and little fascist panties > tucked inside the heart of every nice girl." > -Tori Amos, "Precious Things" > **************************************** > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 23:48:57 EDT From: UMCaner74@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: Patty's "look"...possibly an explanation?? I DID see Patty in one of those "what the hell" outfits one time. For those of you that were there, you'll know what I'm talking about. If you weren't there, maybe this will clarify that 1st post of the "what the hell?" outfit. However, you'll have to excuse my way of describing her outfit, for I am but a man... It was October of last year at the Keswick Theatre just north of Philly. She was wearing some sort of black fish net-like sweater, with an old looking greyish?? skirt. She was wearing not quite knee high nylons, with black shoes. Her hair was pulled back, a bit like at the Sessions taping, and she was wearing black rimmed glasses that you would imagine one of those old women teachers back in the 60's to wear. I really don't know if this is really when these glasses were popular, but that's just my guess. Frank the bass player was in some Indian get up, and Doug was wearing pajamas. I can't recall what the rest of the band was wearing, but everyone was in something that was quite different to say the least. I can't recall if it was all that close to halloween, but I believe the show was near the beginning of October. My first thought when they came on stage ACTUALLY was...WHAT the hell?? From where I was sitting, which was about the 7th row, Patty looked kind of old because of what she was wearing, and in my opinion...at first sight it was not her best look.. However, it IS Patty, and by the time she had played a few songs, she was SO darn cute! Near the end of the set Patty introduced her band as she always does, and was laughing about everyone's costumes... It seemed to be a joke, and I'm guessing this probably wasn't the only time that she has dressed REALLY oddly on stage, but I'm guessing she doesn't do it that often either. I have seen her live more times than I am willing to say on this list, and I have only seen her in one of these "what the hell" outfits once. Anyway, what I'm saying is this. If someone had seen Patty perfrom for the first time at the Keswick Theatre last October, they would have no reason to believe that her and the band don't always dress the way they did that night. If the next time they saw her was at Sessions, they would have had no reason to believe that she would look as nice as she did that day. Me...I will always be grateful for that fateful 1st night that I heard Patty. The night that I ventured more than 3 & 1/2 hours to see the band that Patty was opening for, the LAST night that I had NO IDEA who Patty Griffin was. If not for that night, there is no doubt in my mind that I still would not know who she is today. I don't care how Patty dresses. I don't care if people look at her and say "what the hell?" I will forever love her for her music, and all the incredible feelings that she's given me through her voice, her lyrics, and her music. Dave - ----------------------------------------------------- Shake, Little God, Shake your little fists All the strippers think you're odd, But you leave the biggest tips ...Little God ~~~Patty Griffin - ---------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 23:53:34 -0400 From: Mike Connell Subject: MM: NPC - a little boy needs help Hi everyone. A girl I've chatted on and of with the last two years sent the post below to the Jewel list I also run. I've decided to send it on to this list too, in the hopes that any of you who might live in the area where blood testing is being done might be able to stop by and get tested. This little boy needs help to live the life we all have thus far. Mike :-) Jessica's post: Hi Angels...listen..I need your help...one of my cousins (he's 8 months) was born with a very rare disease called Mucopolysaccharidosis or MPS known as Hurler's Syndrome...anyways this will end up causing blindness, deafness, retardation and then death by the age of 5 :( What he needs is a bone marrow transplant. And my families goal is to get 1,000 people tested to see if they can find a match..in order to do this they need to raise $86,000..so far they have raised over $20,000..so IF anyone is willing to make any sort of donation OR if you live in the bay area and would be willing to have their bone marrow tested (it's just a quick blood test) PLEASE email me (JEWEL1165@aol.com) the test takes place on Nov.6th in Pleasanton at no cost. Thank you soooooo much. If your interested in looking at his web site please do..WWW.HELPROMAN.ORG. Thanks again Jessica "The Realistic Angel" ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V3 #290 *********************************