From: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org (mad-mission-digest) To: mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Subject: mad-mission-digest V3 #214 Reply-To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sender: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * mad-mission-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Patty's tour dates, go to: * http://www.spectra.net/~ducksoup/pattyg/patttyg.htm * OR * go to http://www.amrecords.com * then click "tour" and fill in the blanks :) * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V3 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. mad-mission-digest Friday, July 23 1999 Volume 03 : Number 214 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: MM: Letterman ["Sean Palen" ] MM: Msg from Frank the Bass Player [Helen Glazer ] MM: Re: Msg from Frank the Bass Player ["James P / Cristina M" ] MM: Celine from the William Shattner school of acting [Mooodeee@aol.com] MM: RE: Celine's Move (NPC) [rblack1@io.com (Ronda B.)] MM: We Are Water. [ruby maroon ] MM: Fwd: FW: please read.... ["Amy Emerman" ] MM: Message to Frank (the bass player) [David Lewis Subject: Re: MM: Letterman Hey MMers One small thing I think made the show fun to watch was that the bass player was really into it, and that carries through the set possitively. Take it easy Sean _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 08:35:42 -0400 From: Helen Glazer Subject: MM: Msg from Frank the Bass Player >Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 01:21:41 -0400 (EDT) >From: "Patty's Band" >Subject: MM: Re: mad-mission-digest V3 #211 >Frank the Bass player here. Very interesting reading all >your different opinions of our Letterman performance...I >just wanted to let you know that we had a blast playing >Blue Sky and although it would not have been any of ours >pick (song-wise)we feel really good about our performance >of it. The imperfections, are the beauty (or not, all >depending on your view point)of a live show. If you want >perfect, you'd probably be a Celine Dion fan not a Patty >Griffin fan. **** The performance seemed fine, but the guitars were so loud and fuzzy that her voice was buried, which seemed too bad to me and my husband. I was reminded that the show I saw with the whole band last fall was so loud that I sacrificed a spot in the middle of the venue to stand in the back, and my ears were still ringing when I left, which is always disturbing. At the time, I chalked it up to the venue, but now I'm wondering if the band often has the sound cranked louder than is either necessary or healthy for you or your listeners--comments, anyone? Patty's got a beautiful, expressive voice that not only doesn't need to be buried in the mix but should be front and center. As for Celine Dion, please pass along to Patty that her performance of "Blue Sky" would be enhanced by the addition of that Celine move where Celine clenches her fist in front of her chin and then jerks her arm downward, gaze directed at the heavens, her face registering Deep Emotion. ;-) Near, far, wherever you are, Helen ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 07:51:06 -0500 From: "James P / Cristina M" Subject: MM: Re: Msg from Frank the Bass Player - -----Original Message----- > >As for Celine Dion, please pass along to Patty that her performance of >"Blue Sky" would be enhanced by the addition of that Celine move where >Celine clenches her fist in front of her chin and then jerks her arm >downward, gaze directed at the heavens, her face registering Deep >Emotion. ;-) > >Near, far, wherever you are, >Helen Helen, that was hysterical! Yes, her Deep Emotion stance really makes me feel what she's singing deep into the core of my soul. Patty could definitely learn a few moves from Ms. Celine! ;-) -Cristina > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 08:43:44 -0500 From: "Paquin, John" Subject: MM: RE: Celine's Move (NPC) Helen wrote: * ...Celine clenches her fist in front of her chin and * then jerks her arm downward... I'm a vocalist in a (lousy) part time cover band, and one time I lost my head and tried this very move. Pretending I was on national T.V. I took a couple of running steps and tried to slide across the stage as the band punched the end of "Pink Cadillac." Unfortunately, my red leather pants gripped the varnished gymnasium floor and I was catapulted ass over elbows onto the guitar player's effects pedals which fed a deafening squeal of feedback directly into the digital delay loop we use for the vocals on "Crazy Train." In perfect synchronization, the entire audience flinched and slapped their hands over their ears. Although dazed by the fall and half crazy from the tremendous waves of sound billowing from the speakers, I maintained enough professionalism to know I had to try to salvage the moment. Ignoring the pain in my friction burned knees, I leapt to my feet, jumped to the front of the stage and attempted the move Ms. Dion has made so famous. I balled up my fist, screwed up my face and looked heavenward, but in my befuddlement, I jerked my arm upward instead of downward and knocked myself unconscious. We have not been invited back. - -john ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 09:25:46 EDT From: Mooodeee@aol.com Subject: MM: Celine from the William Shattner school of acting << Helen, that was hysterical! Yes, her Deep Emotion stance really makes me feel what she's singing deep into the core of my soul. Patty could definitely learn a few moves from Ms. Celine! ;-) >> Mary Chapin Carpenter has a song called "If I Were a Diva" where, in concert, Chapin makes light of the so-called "Diva"s of music (Madonna, Mariah, Shania, and Celine).... she does her impressions of these people, especially Celine's very overdramatic gesturing while singing.... its a riot!!! ~Mimi in Austin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 09:48:08 -0500 From: rblack1@io.com (Ronda B.) Subject: MM: RE: Celine's Move (NPC) This reminds me of a concert I saw once as a teenager. A religious soiree of some kind, best I remember ... replete with more big hair than you can imagine (trust me). The night of the show, the lights dimmed and a hush fell over the audience as we waited for the appearance of Jenny (or whatever her name was). The searching spotlight, the audience holding its breath, an implied drumroll ... The spotlight finally settled onto a section of the curtain at the top of a very steep, very large ramp. It became clear that Jenny would descend to us while making her appearance. The drums crashed, the lights came up, some sort of pounding synthesizer produced an introduction as she appeared. She held out her hand, told us Jesus loved us and launched into song. Top of her lungs, descending in her bejeweled gown, she caught her rather high heel on a bit of carpet and tumbled the entire way down the ramp. May God forgive us for just how hard we laughed. Ronda At 08:43 AM 7/22/99 -0500, Paquin, John wrote: >Helen wrote: > >* ...Celine clenches her fist in front of her chin and >* then jerks her arm downward... > >I'm a vocalist in a (lousy) part time cover band, and one time I lost my >head and tried this very move. Pretending I was on national T.V. I took a >couple of running steps and tried to slide across the stage as the band >punched the end of "Pink Cadillac." >Unfortunately, my red leather pants gripped the varnished gymnasium floor >and I was catapulted ass over elbows onto the guitar player's effects pedals >which fed a deafening squeal of feedback directly into the digital delay >loop we use for the vocals on "Crazy Train." In perfect synchronization, the >entire audience flinched and slapped their hands over their ears. >Although dazed by the fall and half crazy from the tremendous waves of sound >billowing from the speakers, I maintained enough professionalism to know I >had to try to salvage the moment. >Ignoring the pain in my friction burned knees, I leapt to my feet, jumped to >the front of the stage and attempted the move Ms. Dion has made so famous. >I balled up my fist, screwed up my face and looked heavenward, but in my >befuddlement, I jerked my arm upward instead of downward and knocked myself >unconscious. >We have not been invited back. > >-john > > Ronda Blacksher Director of Marketing Eye Clinic of Austin (512) 427-1152 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 16:37:58 -0400 (EDT) From: ruby maroon Subject: MM: We Are Water. I have to just say that this song is amazing. I LOVE this song! She sings it with such rawness and enthusiasm. She strums that guitar to death! It's great. How does she put herself out there like that? How can she lay herself out like that, it's amazing. she has 'totally let go'-as my guitar teacher says. She has just let go and she's not afraid and it's awesome. Just had to share my thoughts. Okay have a good one. Ruby _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 13:37:52 PDT From: "Amy Emerman" Subject: MM: Fwd: FW: please read.... > > If you have internet access, here's a good deed you'll do all day... > > http://www.thehungersite.com > > > > This is a really neat website. All you do is click a button and > > somewhere in the world some hungry person gets a meal to eat at no > > cost to you. > > > > The map blinks every time someone dies of hunger - > > The food is paid for by corporate sponsors. All you do is go to the > > site and click. > > > > Visit the site and pass the word. > > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 18:25:22 -0300 From: David Lewis Subject: MM: Message to Frank (the bass player) First of all... don't be dis'in' Celine! (just kidding)! Second... those orange overalls were pretty damn cool :) You looked like an escaped convict or something :) Finally... I think the performance was fine. It would be cool to see Patty kick out a powerful tune like "Tony" or some other equally powerful tune on Letterman, but I'm just happy to see her *on* Letterman! Good job Patty... good job everyone!! Congratulations. A little over a year ago I was watching Patty play solo at the Iron Horse... a tiny little New England Pub... now she is on Letterman. Unbelieveable :) - -Dave (a guy from Halifax. N.S. who's seen a lot of New England thanks to Patty :) - ---------------------------- David Lewis Digital & Print Media Design dlewis@hfx.andara.com - ---------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 20:11:47 -0700 From: diamondmask@juno.com Subject: MM: Patty of Letterman I taped it and watched it yesterday. First let me say, I really like Patty. From the first time I heard her. She has a voice with some of the best, and she is a lyricist with the best. BUT......the two national shows I've seen, I thought, were pretty poor. Yes, the guitar was too loud, but not as loud as on Conan. The bass could have been tweaked up a bit, and her voice could have been far more out front. And, well, she looked a little lost. Like she didn't know what to do with herself, and she seemed pretty tentative with the song in general. I didn't think the lighting was very flattering. Reminded me of fluorescent lighting. I'll just go on the record here as preferring acoustic performances, and Patty has proven that she is strong in that arena. "Blue Sky" may not lend itself to an acoustic performance, but IMHO, she would have looked more comfortable with a guitar in her hands. I was really thankful that Paul's band didn't play along. They are great on their own, but when they play with the guests, they freakin' SUCK! Talk about lousy vocals. To me, Patty didn't know what to do with her arms or hands. If she had come out by herself, with a guitar and played, say, Tony, she would have galvanized the place and the airwaves. I know she wants to rock. And she can. However, whoever is doing the sound needs some pointers. It's HER voice we want to hear, not the guitarist's take on the song. I didn't pay much attention to the harmonies, or the drums, cause I was intent on Patty. I have to say, I've never seen her perform. (Much to my chagrin) And, if I was judging from these shows, I probably wouldn't go. Just my opinion. Maybe she needs a Studio 54 show with just her. I just can't get over the feeling that she's going down the wrong path her with the overamped backing. Flame away. john in sumner wa ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 23:39:40 EDT From: EveryLittleBit@aol.com Subject: MM: the band (NPC) You know, now that I know the band is reading the list I'm having a much harder time posting negative things. Which actually could be a good thing... I don't have much else to say except that my "Patty bio" site should be completely up & running soon. I made it for a class, and it's being graded tomorrow- it'll then be taken off the school server, so I made a copy of it on geocities. It's on the same site as the lyrics site now, so theoretically I won't have to advertise a whole new URL... hope y'all like it. Rachel :D ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 23:48:16 EDT From: Hiwayman9@aol.com Subject: MM: hey.. does anyone know how Patty feels about bootlegs of her concerts? Are there any in existence? I saw Patty twice in the last few months. The first time when I saw her at the 9:30 in D.C. when she opened for Lucinda Williams. I fell in love instantly. I went back to the 9:30 when she was the lead act on July 3 and fell deeper in love. Later, Keith ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V3 #214 *********************************