From: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org (mad-mission-digest) To: mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Subject: mad-mission-digest V3 #190 Reply-To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sender: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * mad-mission-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Patty's tour dates, go to: * http://www.spectra.net/~ducksoup/pattyg/patttyg.htm * OR * go to http://www.amrecords.com * then click "tour" and fill in the blanks :) * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V3 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. mad-mission-digest Saturday, June 26 1999 Volume 03 : Number 190 Today's Subjects: ----------------- MM: NPC: theCorrs [Remy457@aol.com] MM: Paul's reluctance to accept anything [Paul Russell Subject: MM: Paul's reluctance to accept anything Hi! Warning! Danger Wil Robinson!! extremely long post loading onto computer!! Well, I remember this funny story about Patty Griffin. It was when I was in this bar, drinking, and in walked Patty Griffin..or someone who looked like her. Hmmmm. Anyway, I was in Key West and was feelin alright because Barefoot Bob's had Guinness for only $3 per cup. So I stumbled over to her and said, "hi, excuse me, but I couldn't help but notice how much you resemble the likeness of Patty Griffin." But what actually came out was more like, "haa, abba cud hep yuuu dah habba lahk Patty Griffin." Then she looked at me and smiled and said "thanks." I thought, "whoa I'm getting in good with her." and tried to say something else. But she was thinking, "gotta lose the dork." and walked away. That left me talking to a post, but that was okay cuz at that point in my consciousness it didn't really matter much and kept talking. NO WAIT! That was Martha Quinn, not Patty Griffin. Sorry. Well, I'm not gonna delete it since I spent all that time trying to remember that. Hmmmm. Quinn, Griffin, whatever. On Christina's post.... I agree that the American public is underestimated >when it comes to "questionable" material and the willingness to accept it. Well, I tend to think the "American Public" is pretty stupid in general. No offense (yeah like I just probably offended every American on this list) but look at this society we live in. We've got fashion mags telling us what's hot and what's not. We snub our noses at people who wear clashing outfits (is that important???) We've got TV telling us what is right and wrong...(any pro-smoking programs out there? any newscaster tell you to drink and drive lately? Any people for destroying the rain forest?) And now there's the "save-the children" phase that's gonna....well, I won't go on. Everybody's got his own opinion. ;) But anyway, the Radio isn't CONTROLLING what goes over the airwaves, they're just afraid of change. Yeah certain radio stations (top 40) "block off" songs, but that's because they need that space to play those stupid 40 songs over and over and over. The average listener listens to the radio like for only an hour, so they make sure they play those songs that teeny-boppers everywhere are calling up to hear every 15 minutes. Also the professional radio stations are playing songs based on what was a hit on the college charts. As a college DJ and Director we to get free stuff we filled out charting to the reps. Then they would place those charts in mags, and major stations read those to see who the next "big star" is. And (surpise surprise) many college stations just fudge those charts and play whatever they want. The labels keep calling and say things like, "well, we really want you to plug the hell out of Spanking Monkeys. We can send you some more CD's to give away and the newest Faith No More EP for yourself." So, the spanking monkeys get put on the charts. Then the big stations see that and request spanking monkeys from the labels. The whole thing is a big schtick, But what I'm really saying is that the radio stations just fear change, they like their little notch all comfy with no quirks. Go out on a limb with some artist's song? hell no. uh, >It's really rather self-righteous for radio stations/TV >stations/advertisers/etc... to dictate what the American public is "ready" Thankfully, in the lines of work that I want to go into >(publishing and independent filmmaking) there is a greater landscape for >so-called controversial, issue-driven material and art. Of course, I am >perfectly aware that this is not always the case; Good for you!! film is the shit! I love whenever I get a chance working with film.... BUT (and I see you know this already)...oh, I'm still responding to Christina... Independent Filmaking (which I sincerely do love and appreciate) is like sticking your fist in a fan if you are not "open to suggestion" I'll even give you an example from "the other side"...When my film class was making a 15 minute film we needed creativity so we "hired" this guy who was a playright and we picked one of his plays. Because we only had 15 minutes we had to bludgeon his "creativity" so much that we just stopped talking to him. We just told him we were doing what he wanted and did whatever we needed. We weren't trying to be mean but we would sit down with him and talk about changes, and he would of course not like them too much but agree to make changes to the script. Then he would hand us the newer version which only cut like 1 word from the original. This went on for three weeks before we just said "screw this guy". However, if you've got the money for publishing and filmaking then by all means, compromise nothing. I hate compromising too! I'm in my selfish phase now. BLAH! I'm typing too long and incoherently! I didn't even want to talk about filmaking, but I think it's cool you're into it. oh, one more thing.... Americans are ready for a song like "Tony," but I wonder if the FCC >will object to the word "faggot" and censor Patty? The FCC is Prohibited by law (Section 326) of the Communication Act from censoring broadcast matter and taking action that would interfere with free speech in broadcasting. Individual radio and television station licensees are responsible for selecting all broadcast matter and for determining how their stations can best serve their communities. Programing can be influenced by audience opinion and is. Regarding profanity, key court decisions have defined it as "words importing an imprecation of divine vengeance or implying divine condemnation, so used as to constitute a public nuisance." Furthermore, the Federal Communications Commission does not independently monitor broadcasts for indecent material. Its enforcement actions are based on documented complaints of indecent or obscene broadcasting received from the public. And now all that boring stuff is over..:) I would have released "One Big Love" because it shows off Patty Griffin's voice great, and is catchy. I would not have used "Blue Sky" because it doesn't, although it is probably the least objectionable. (I don't mean that in a "controversial" way, I mean it in a "Pleasurable to the ear" way.) I keep reading these posts that want "Tony" to be the released single because it's controversial, but I don't think that's a huge factor. I think it's what is pleasing to the biggest audience sound-wise that's gonna be the release. I think "Flaming Red" rocks the house, but unless she wants to be type-casted a punker I don't think her management will "release" it and certainly the "appropriate" radio stations won't play it. I'm beginning to agree with that reviewer from a while back that said Flaming Red was good but too diversified. Come to think of it, most of the songs on Flaming Red have their own classification. Like I dearly LOVE "Go Now" but you can betchore arse it won't ever be played, except for maybe a soft listening station (along next to Sinatra). Perhaps they're (whoever they are) going with the song that Ms. Griffin most wants her band to sound like. Who knows. I'm gone like the yesterday's sloppy joes. Sorry to be sooooooo long, but hey. I haven't written in a while. I guess I'm catching up.:P peace love and veggie rights paul *********************************** * Well then, I know a certain * * kitty kitty who'll be * * sleeping with mommy tonight. * * * * --Cartman's Mom from SouthPark * *********************************** ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V3 #190 *********************************