From: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org (mad-mission-digest) To: mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Subject: mad-mission-digest V3 #148 Reply-To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sender: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * mad-mission-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Patty's tour dates, go to: * http://www.spectra.net/~ducksoup/pattyg/patttyg.htm * OR * go to http://www.amrecords.com * then click "tour" and fill in the blanks :) * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V3 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. mad-mission-digest Wednesday, May 19 1999 Volume 03 : Number 148 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Fwd: MM: Old subject [Zelly72@aol.com] Re: MM: Old subject [Mooodeee@aol.com] Re: MM: A Question At The end of the Paragraph [KimRichrds@aol.com] Re: MM: A Question At The end of the Paragraph [JessBartn@aol.com] RachelRe: MM: Old subject [Suzsteph@aol.com] Re: Fwd: MM: Old subject- big names ["Sean Palen" ] Re: MM: Old subject [rblack1@io.com (Ronda Blacksher)] Re: MM: A Question At The end of the Paragraph [rblack1@io.com (Ronda Bla] Re: MM: A Question At The end of the Paragraph [Wendy J ] MM: Patty in Taos New Mexico. [ruby maroon ] Re: MM: A Question At The end of the Paragraph [Judy Lev Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 01:32:14 EDT Subject: Re: MM: Old subject To: EveryLittleBit@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 64 I agree that most of the people who do these concerts aren't as big as Patty (in my opinion), although I have heard some of them on the radio and I have yet to hear Patty. But, I don't feel that the Living Room Concerts started with Jewel at all. I have a friend of a friend who has been hosting these concerts for a long time, mostly with folk artists (Andrew Calhoun, Kat Eggleston...) and small crowds. I do agree that some artists would not be comfortable with doing this and I can completely understand that, but I do feel that it would get Patty more exposure, not less. Thanks, Terri - --part1_42c49150.2473a706_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 01:55:04 EDT From: Mooodeee@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: Old subject If Patty goes for a House Concert or something like that, I think it should be hosted in Austin, since that is where she lives, it would be more convenient for her there. She would be more likely to accept such an invitation, especially if it is done during an off-time when she is not touring. Also, if the host was someone with whom she was a friend it would help. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 01:59:39 EDT From: KimRichrds@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: A Question At The end of the Paragraph LMAO at that comment! As far as the gay thing goes, I think that she does speak out for quite a few controversial issues. I'm gay, but I don't listen to her because she speaks out for it. Most of the Patty fans I know simply love her music. Of course, I do have to respect any artist who has the guts to speak out on anything "controversial." Kim In a message dated 5/18/99 3:29:28 PM Central Daylight Time, doody@jetcity.com writes: << Call me cynical, but Patty will never become a voice for the gay (male) population until she puts a synthesized dance track under her songs. ;-) I'm sure most of my gay friends have never heard of Patty, or never would have if it weren't for me. >> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 07:10:27 EDT From: JessBartn@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: A Question At The end of the Paragraph I have also noticed the large numbers of gay/bi/alternative lifestylin' people who attend Patty's shows and are on the list... I'm not gay, but I've sure entertained the thought a time or two ;-). I think what it is, is she reaches out to people with open minds and open hearts. I have always loved camping out for a while before her shows. Her real fans are so friendly and talkative, everyone seems approachable and warm. And look at us on this list? We discuss the deepest, most interesting stuff and we are all complete strangers. How cool. Makes me proud to be a longstanding fan. :-) Jess ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 08:23:17 EDT From: Suzsteph@aol.com Subject: RachelRe: MM: Old subject I definitely feel the same way. I met her last week when she performed in Pontiac, MI. She seemed if as she would rather be having all her teeth pulled out rather than been meeting her fans. She really was attempting to be gracious, but I don't think she is good at faking it. As I talked with her about being an aspiring musician her eyes lit up a bit--but I still don't think she is comfortable at all with dealing with fans. Stephanie ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 06:31:25 PDT From: "Sean Palen" Subject: Re: Fwd: MM: Old subject- big names Hey MMers I don't know if you've heard about it, but people I assume are considered bigger names ( I am guessing of course it depends on the music circle you listen to) than Patty are doing living room concerts, Darden Smith, Ellis Paul, Cliff Eberheart just to name a few have all come through the San Antonio living room circuit this year, though there were only about 20 of us at each show and I brought the average age about 20 years. I talked with two of them for twenty minutes or so between concerts just because I was more on there age and conversation level. I think the shy consensus is a goos guess, heck, even the Cactus Cafe in Austin is like a living room concert, interation is a huge part of performing there also, I was curious why she hasn't performed there yet. And for all you Ellis Paul fans in Austin he is performing a small venue concert next month before( or after) the Kerville folk festival. Take it easy Sean >From: Zelly72@aol.com >To: Mad-Mission@smoe.org >Subject: Fwd: MM: Old subject >Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 01:32:54 EDT > > ><< message3.txt >> _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 06:50:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Wendy J Subject: Re: MM: YAHOO....It's Patty's Club!!.. Ditto for me, too! I'll see y'all on line, dearies! - -WJ in DC - --- Hejjira1@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 5/18/99 6:39:18 PM EST, > UMCaner74@aol.com writes: > > << Of course, we could just be spontaneous and just > show up whenever we damn well feel like it too...I > really enjoy alot of you > guy's posts..and it would be great to not only get > to know you all > better..but be able to chat about Patty amongst > each other instead of email > every once in a while! >> > > Hey Dave, > I'm up for it 100%.........I honestly used to just > read you guys' post and > never put in my two cents or participate.......but > you guys really interest > me and it seems like you all have such great ideas > and views. I would love > to be able to interact with you more at the moment > than thru email!! I'll > keep an eye out for ya's! > > Peace out, > Paul Dunn > _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 09:36:33 -0500 From: rblack1@io.com (Ronda Blacksher) Subject: Re: MM: Old subject Well, I'd happily volunteer my living room. It's about 10 blocks from where she lives. What a thought!! Ronda At 01:55 AM 5/19/99 EDT, Mooodeee@aol.com wrote: >If Patty goes for a House Concert or something like that, I think it should >be hosted in Austin, since that is where she lives, it would be more >convenient for her there. She would be more likely to accept such an >invitation, especially if it is done during an off-time when she is not >touring. Also, if the host was someone with whom she was a friend it would >help. > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 09:41:38 -0500 From: rblack1@io.com (Ronda Blacksher) Subject: Re: MM: A Question At The end of the Paragraph Add my name to the list of queer followers. Hmmmmm. Maybe there really is something to this idea. Perhaps a little mixing underneath Every Little Bit?? KIDDING. I'M KIDDING. Ronda At 01:59 AM 5/19/99 EDT, KimRichrds@aol.com wrote: >LMAO at that comment! As far as the gay thing goes, I think that she does >speak out for quite a few controversial issues. I'm gay, but I don't listen >to her because she speaks out for it. Most of the Patty fans I know simply >love her music. Of course, I do have to respect any artist who has the guts >to speak out on anything "controversial." > >Kim > >In a message dated 5/18/99 3:29:28 PM Central Daylight Time, >doody@jetcity.com writes: > ><< Call me cynical, but Patty will never become a voice for the gay (male) > population until she puts a synthesized dance track under her songs. ;-) > I'm sure most of my gay friends have never heard of Patty, or never would > have if it weren't for me. >> > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 09:30:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Wendy J Subject: Re: MM: A Question At The end of the Paragraph Goodness, perhaps Patty didn't name her follow up CD "flaming" red for nuthin!! I, too, am a gay girl and have noticed a fair share of "family" members at her concerts. I was particularly touched when I saw her last winter in georgetown and these two very gap/j-crew looking guys who I assumed were straight preppy college kids put their arms around each other and started swaying back and forth when she played "sweet lorraine." it was so cute! I'm not sure if my being queer has anything to do w/why I love patty. I think it has more to do with her poetic prowess and the incredibly powerful way she delivers her lyrics. I'm not even particularly attracted to her [although if she were to glance my way, I wouldn't exactly turn away!] I agree w/previous posts...that Patty's honesty and emotional delivery seems to strike a chord in those who have felt "other than" and misfit. Often, that's indicative of the whole gay experience, although certainly not unique to it. --Anyways, just my $.02 ~WJ in DC p.s. patty is certainly no stranger to gay culture. she once told me that she lived w/a gay guy in boston who was active in Queer Nation (and who, she said, was her inspiration behind the song "moses".) - --- Ronda Blacksher wrote: > Add my name to the list of queer followers. Hmmmmm. > Maybe there really is > something to this idea. > > Perhaps a little mixing underneath Every Little > Bit?? KIDDING. I'M KIDDING. > > Ronda > > At 01:59 AM 5/19/99 EDT, KimRichrds@aol.com wrote: > >LMAO at that comment! As far as the gay thing goes, > I think that she does > >speak out for quite a few controversial issues. I'm > gay, but I don't listen > >to her because she speaks out for it. Most of the > Patty fans I know simply > >love her music. Of course, I do have to respect any > artist who has the guts > >to speak out on anything "controversial." > > > >Kim > > > >In a message dated 5/18/99 3:29:28 PM Central > Daylight Time, > >doody@jetcity.com writes: > > > ><< Call me cynical, but Patty will never become a > voice for the gay (male) > > population until she puts a synthesized dance > track under her songs. ;-) > > I'm sure most of my gay friends have never heard > of Patty, or never would > > have if it weren't for me. >> > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 12:30:36 EDT From: EveryLittleBit@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: Old subject In a message dated 5/19/99 5:32:14 AM, Zelly72 writes: << I agree that most of the people who do these concerts aren't as big as Patty (in my opinion), although I have heard some of them on the radio and I have yet to hear Patty. But, I don't feel that the Living Room Concerts started with Jewel at all. I have a friend of a friend who has been hosting these concerts for a long time, mostly with folk artists (Andrew Calhoun, Kat Eggleston...) and small crowds. >> OK, I guess I didn't clarify... while I know artists probably did it for years before Jewel was even born, the specific ring of concerts that Rolling Stone was talking about was the Living Room Tours that was started by Jewel's friends and fans. Of course other people do it too, but RS was talking about one specific set of concerts :) Rachel:D ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 15:21:29 EDT From: SunShiny16@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: Old subject I didn't read all of the emails under this heading, so I may have missed something, but was the RS article on Living Room Concerts a completely different one than that on High School Concerts? Cause I read an article last night about Jewel how her record company sends their artists to high schools to do tours before their CDS are released (way before they're "famous")...which is funny to me because when Jewel came to the high school near me (this was awhile ago, keep in mind) she got booed off the stage!! She said the teachers were just taking kids and escorting them out because she sang the song "Pieces of You", I think that's the name. That's all!! Risa ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 12:24:14 -0700 From: "Siegman, Elena" Subject: MM: lilith fair Heyo! Looks like Patty will be performing on the second stage (can't wait 'till she moves over to the big one) at Lilith this year on August 10th and 11th in Ohio. I have to say that Lilith has an impressive lineup, but that it usually turns out (for me at least) that the performers that are playing in my town (that's L.A., for those who might care, :->) is a jigsaw puzzle of artists that I kinda like, but am not really nuts about. I might go this year just to see Sarah and Sheryl Crow. Beth Orton's also playing in LA, and she's pretty cool. Has anyone ever been to lilith fair? If so, what did you think? ***************************** Elena Siegman Associate Producer The Dating Game Online http://station.sony.com/datinggame/ p: 310.840.8631 f: 310.840.8668 e: esiegman@station.sony.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 13:05:53 -0700 (PDT) From: ruby maroon Subject: MM: Patty in Taos New Mexico. Hi all! Im kind of getting really excited. On Pattys tour dates on Mad Mission it shows she's playing in Taos New Mexico on 6/27. I hunted down Taos on the Internet and then I tracked down the radio station that sponsering it, they said it's confirmed that she will be playing there!!!! It's about 16 hours from me but Im thinking it would be really really cool to go to that becaue it's an out door music festival AND it probably would be very very low key, maybe not even too many people will know who she is I dont know, but I really really want to go. Here we go "Do you think that I should drive 16 hours straight to go to this?" God am I nuts or what??? NUTS....okay Ill wait to hear your opinion, cuZ that's what Im really asking for. Love and Music, Jessica _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 15:30:32 -0500 From: Judy Lev Subject: Re: MM: A Question At The end of the Paragraph Okay.... Wendy J wrote: > " I was particularly > touched when I saw her last winter in georgetown and > these two very gap/j-crew looking guys who I assumed > were straight preppy college kids put their arms > around each other and started swaying back and forth > when she played "sweet lorraine." it was so cute!" this is a bit irritating....... can someone say stereotype? i could go on and say many things explaining why this comment irritated me, but I think I should just leave it alone..... i'm not sure why its necessary for you to judge these "gap/j-crew looking guys" and then decide that they are "cute" if they're gay?????? what has the world come to? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 16:55:45 EDT From: UMCaner74@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: Old subject - --part1_955f7596.24747f51_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit - --part1_955f7596.24747f51_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: UMCaner74@aol.com From: UMCaner74@aol.com Full-name: UMCaner74 Message-ID: <955f7596.24747f27@aol.com> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 16:55:03 EDT Subject: Re: MM: Old subject To: EveryLittleBit@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 I agree with what Rachel said about Patty being too shy to do the whole Living Room concert thing. As sincerely nice, and appreciative she has ALWAYS been to me for being such a big fan, she just does not seem the type to be comfortable in someone else's home..whether they are a big fan or not. Many times I've met Patty she's had trouble looking ME in the eyes! She is the only performer/celebrity/athlete that I have ever met that has been like this. Any other time when I met someone that was a so-called "more powerful" person than myself, they have either ACTED like they WERE more important than myself..or treated me as a good friend, and an equal. Patty seems to treat you like her equal, but she's just shy about it.. She is often times very nervous before performing in a regular venue...and while the Living room concert may be more relaxing for some performers, for her, I think the stress of a Living Room Concert would be ALOT more. Once again, it's not b/c she does not like the fans, I think she just is too shy to feel "intimate" with complete strangers sometimes. I can relate..b/c while I'm very talkative and open with people i know...if I'm in a position where I'm only surrounded by people who are strangers..I could easily sit there ALL DAY and not say a word. I just don't feel comfortable expressing myself or my views to complete strangers... Ok, there's my .02 cents plus some.. Dave - --part1_955f7596.24747f51_boundary-- ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V3 #148 *********************************