From: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org (mad-mission-digest) To: mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Subject: mad-mission-digest V3 #121 Reply-To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sender: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * mad-mission-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Patty's tour dates, go to: * http://www.spectra.net/~ducksoup/pattyg/patttyg.htm * OR * go to http://www.amrecords.com * then click "tour" and fill in the blanks :) * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V3 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. mad-mission-digest Friday, April 30 1999 Volume 03 : Number 121 Today's Subjects: ----------------- MM: Tori vs Patty ["Paquin, John" ] MM: patty, tori, natalie, and beth ["Nancy Micciulla" ] RE: MM: If you like Patty... ["Gould, Rachel L." ] MM: Hey Listen to What I Have To Say !!!! [Hejjira1@aol.com] MM: PATTY & TORI [Flakeybird@aol.com] Re: MM: Tori vs Patty [UMCaner74@aol.com] MM: Tonight's Ktown concert [Julie E Graham ] MM: Mystery song solved [Julie E Graham ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 08:37:38 -0500 From: "Paquin, John" Subject: MM: Tori vs Patty I'm not saying that either Patty or Tori is necessarily "better" than the other. That would be ridiculous. Both women are extraordinarily talented. I AM, however, saying that I think Tori could take Patty in a no-holds-barred steel-cage match. Oh, yeah. You can see it in her eyes. - -john P.S. John, Thanks for the tip about Beth Orton, but what I want to know is: how is her upper body strength? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 06:51:24 PDT From: "Nancy Micciulla" Subject: MM: patty, tori, natalie, and beth hey all. . .just thought i'd throw my opinions in on this whole comparing of artists. natalie: i'm not sure what it is, but i just can't get into her. maybe it's 'cause they overplay her on the radio at home, maybe it's 'cause i miss 10,000 maniacs, or maybe it's 'cause that song where she says thank you over and over again grates on my nerves. no offense to you fans out there. . . i do realize she's very talented, but she just doesn't appeal to my tastes. beth: i heard of beth orton about a year and a half ago, when a friend of mine lent me her cd. he found it on an up-and-coming artist rack at a local record store. i instantly fell in love with her, but for some silly reason never bought her cd. i guess i should get it soon before i'm labeled as a "bandwagon" fan. i hate that. all those die-hard fans who think they're better than the other fans just because they heard an artist first. sheesh. we all love the music. tori: well, i'm a fairly new tori fan, and i think she is just this amazingly talented woman who usually manages to make me laugh, cry, scream, and just. . .think. . . all in the course of one cd. i'm sorry that i never got to see her perform in the days of little earthquakes or under the pink, and perhaps i'd feel differently if i had, but watching her up there is. . .it just gives me chills. the passion that she has up there, whether alone or with a band, makes me love her even more. true, there are times when i have no clue what her lyrics mean, but her voice and music completely draw me in. and someone mentioned the catholic school girl thing. it's true. . .there are things i notice about a lot of lyrics these days that my non-catholic friends don't get. especially with patty, tori, and paula cole (she's another one i love). and last but certainly not least, patty: from the first time i saw her in 1996 with jann arden and billy mann, i was blown away. my taste in music was changing at that point (my first cd was red hot chili peppers, and my 2d through 8th were indigo girls if that gives you any clue). so of course patty really appealed to that whole chic artist fan in me. it was just her and her guitar, and i knew that those songs came from deep inside her. very deep. it was the only time i've seen her play forgiveness, and i will never never never never forget it. it was absolutely beautiful. and lately, she's becoming my favorite. i make all my friends listen to her, and my roommate, who'd never even heard of her (or the indigo girls for that matter) now knows every word to every song and sings along. i love when that happens. but anywho, i've rambled on way too much. for those of you who've read this far, congratulations, because even i can't stay on my train of thought. :-) nancy _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 12:05:56 EDT From: MistyBC@aol.com Subject: MM: Riverstages & Stuff Hi everyone! :) Cristina already posted about Patty's gig at Nashville Riverstages, and I just wanted to confirm the 3:35 spot. She will indeed be on the First American Stage. If you're coming to this show, please email me! I'm trying to plan a little MM gathering. We could at least secure a nice spot close to the stage and, you know, hang out while waiting for *PATTY*! :) In response to some random stuff: Beth Orton: Her new album, Central Reservation, is beautiful, breathtaking, amazing, wonderful and all those great words. I saw her video on VH1 last night (it was at 3 am, but they still played it!), so I'm hoping she gets more exposure. (To John: Don't feel bad--Felicity is my favorite show... Um, next to Dawson's Creek. Joey and Dawson are BACK TOGETHER! Life is worth living now. And who really cares that Abby died? :::inside voice, inside voice::: ) Lilith Fair: I think that Lilith is an amazing idea, if only for their attempt to help charities and let organizations set up and spread the word, etc etc. Most of my favorite singers are girls, so I love the shows too! Plus, what's so bad about excluding guys for a few hours? :) Tori: I'm not a huge Tori fan because I can't muster up the effort to figure out what the hell her songs mean. Her lyrics just seem really cryptic and inaccessible. That's probably because I am not taking enough time to understand. I do love the Little Earthquakes album, it's quite beautiful. Also, I'm excited about seeing Alanis & Tori tour in August. Music Biz Types: I'm going to school to work in the recording industry, if that counts. :) Nashville Patty Gathering: I'm SO up for it. I do live here though, so I'm lucky. Once we know the dates for Patty's tour with Johnny Lang, we can start planning, huh? Fun, fun, fun! That's about it for me. Again, if you're going to Riverstages in Nashville, PLEASE EMAIL ME! Smiles, Misty ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:12:38 -0500 From: "Cheryl Girod" Subject: MM: RE: patty and tori amos I try to only give my 2cents worth on Patty stuff, but I also have some thoughts on Tori Amos--as I've become a fan over a period of time The thing that really turned me off about her in the beginning(before I realized she was a child prodigy) was that I was a diehard Kate Bush fan for years before I ever heard any Tori Amos--and she really sounded like a Kate Bush wannabe-plus her Letterman appearance made her look like a bigger space cadet than Farrah Faucet-I just wasn't impressed. But her talent has won me over. God Bless little women with huge voices. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-mad-mission@smoe.org [mailto:owner-mad-mission@smoe.org]On > Behalf Of shoes > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 8:59 AM > To: mad-mission@smoe.org > Subject: MM: patty and tori amos > > > > hi guys... > just had a random small thought.. it's interesting how many references > i've read in posts to MM about tori, how many common fans they both > have.. although i think they are very different, they have some strong > similarities.. > any thoughts? > :) > circles and circles again, > chris > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 12:42:00 -0400 From: "Gould, Rachel L." Subject: RE: MM: If you like Patty... her older cd is good too. ---------- From: JohnRN24@aol.com To: darren@fonseca.com; mad-mission@smoe.org Subject: MM: If you like Patty... Date: Thursday, April 29, 1999 12:10AM Then you're sure to like Beth Orton. I may be five months behind alot of you guys. I don't know if anyone posted anything on Beth yet, but I heard her on my favorite show (Felicity... yeah leave me alone, it's good!) and now I can't get enough of her latest CD. Look her up! :-) John ********************************************************************** This email message and any files transmitted with it are subject to attorney-client privilege and contains confidential information intended only for the person(s) to whom this email message is addressed. If you have received this email message in error, please notify the sender immediately by telephone or email and destroy the original message without making a copy. Thank you. Testa, Hurwitz & Thibeault, LLP tel:617-248-7000 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 13:29:53 EDT From: Hejjira1@aol.com Subject: MM: Hey Listen to What I Have To Say !!!! I just read in Rolling Stones magazine that Tori is releasing in the early fall a THREE disc set.......two of which will be live discs gathering stuff from her most recent tour. The third will be all new songs..........(hint hint Patty). As far as this whole Tori vs. Patty deal........they are both goddesses and deserve to be worshiped for their individuality. Every single CD Tori has release has taken some concentration and one on one attention to get used to.....but in the long run they have ALWAYS proved to be rewarding. I remember hearing in an interview once that if you want to get the full benefit of Tori's CD's you have to know how to approach them. Little Earthquakes should be approached as reading someone's diary.........whereas Under The Pink should be enjoyed as if you were looking at a painting from a far.....admiring the different landscapes and textures. Boys For Pele was written like a novel so should be approached much the same way......a book with chapters. For those of you who have difficulty getting the jist of Boys there is an excellent web site out there that goes thru each and every song on that album and gives the basic meaning and how it correlates to the album as a whole. It was VERY enlightning as Pele can be a tuff shell to crack. I wish I remember the address for the web site but I don't so if anyone can remember or knows let me know ok!!!!! Peace Out Paul "Everything comes and goes, marked by lovers and styles of clothes. Things that you held high and told yourself were true, lost or changing as the days come down to you." Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 14:17:47 EDT From: Flakeybird@aol.com Subject: MM: PATTY & TORI In a message dated 4/28/99 7:50:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org writes: << Joy can't get a record deal but other's with less talent manage to get record contracts with big companies >> A lot of artists are now opting not to get signed with big companies and I don't blame them. You appear to be able to control a lot more of your destiny. I, like Mark, don't view Patty and Tori Amos as similar at all. - -Sharyn Murray ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 18:26:40 EDT From: UMCaner74@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: Tori vs Patty Hey.. I have a comment about Patty and Tori in a no-holds barred steel cage match.. I wouldn't be so quick to count Patty out..I was checking out her hands the other night and they appear to be pretty damn strong..the way she plays We Are Water and Cain they have to be I guess... Patty is way too gentle to ever hurt anyone, so I would not exactly say she would be a good fighter..BUT..she IS a redhead, and you know how redheads can be..if she was forced to fight it would probably be a pretty good match, but I say Sheryl Crow could take ANY of them..have you seen her abs lately?? She runs 4 miles every single morning and obviously works out ALOT! Just my 2 cents, good fun topic there..:-) Dave Anyway, just my 2 cents, I thought that was a funny post! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 23:19:18 -0500 (CDT) From: Julie E Graham Subject: MM: Tonight's Ktown concert Hi M&M's, I just got back from the Patty concert in Knoxville, TN. I thought I'd share. This was my first Patty concert, and it certainly was memorable. The set: Go Now Flaming Red Wiggley Fingers Change Goodbye Tony Blue Sky Feel Like Breaking a Home? (I've never heard this before. It was a real bluesy piece; I think it was the best song of the concert. She mumbled something before she started the song that might have been "this is new", but I'm not sure) Mary (wow, really got the audience's attention) The concert rocked though I was a bit disappointed that all the songs were with the band and there were no songs from LWG. I hope to see some acoustic stuff in Nashville. After the concert, I went to the t-shirt table in hopes of buying a Patty shirt. The table didn't have *any* Patty stuff. It's so unfortunate! I saw the attendant turn away at least ten people asking for cds. I told the guy at the t-shirt table Patty would probably be disappointed if she knew they didn't have any merchandise of hers to sell. So he suggested I go tell her. I said, "OK, where can I find her?" He told me to take a left and head down the alley to the back. Which sounded great until I was in the alley. It was *so* dark. When I get to the backstage door, I talked to the security guy quizing him about where Patty was. He told me to stick around, Patty was back and forth between the bus and the backstage. The security guard went back inside. After about five minutes, I hear *click* *click* on the sidewalk. I peered around the corner, and see Patty talking on her cell phone. Our conversation went something like this: "Patty, will you sign my cd?" "Sure" "I'm on the mad mission list" "Cool" "I'll be at your Nashville shows too" *nod* Meanwhile I can't find my pen. I fish in my purse for what seems like an eternity. Finally I dump my entire purse of sidewalk. It seemed like a good idea at the time, ok? "What's your name" "Julie" "You have a purse just like mine" "Did you buy it at Penny's?" "No, but everything falls out of it when I look through it" I left her alone then cause she was on the phone. All in all, what a great night! Bye, Julie "Raised by Wolves in Alaska. Learned to yodel at the moon. Lived in a van on the San Diego freeway, only stopped for gas...." - Jewel reflects jokingly of critics' view of her childhood. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 23:25:12 -0500 (CDT) From: Julie E Graham Subject: MM: Mystery song solved > Feel Like Breaking a Home? (I've never heard this before. It was a real > bluesy piece; I think it was the best song of the concert. She mumbled > something before she started the song that might have been "this is new", but > I'm not sure) I just checked the Patty Griffin lyrics archive. :) Thanks to Rachel's handy-dandy database, I figued out this song is called "Breaking Up". Julie ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V3 #121 *********************************