From: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org (mad-mission-digest) To: mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Subject: mad-mission-digest V3 #103 Reply-To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sender: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * mad-mission-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Patty's tour dates, go to: * http://www.spectra.net/~ducksoup/pattyg/patttyg.htm * OR * go to http://www.amrecords.com * then click "tour" and fill in the blanks :) * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V3 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. mad-mission-digest Tuesday, April 13 1999 Volume 03 : Number 103 Today's Subjects: ----------------- MM: Management - Where PG is Right Now ["Michael C. Gay" ] Re: MM: Management - Where PG is Right Now [Vanessa McGowan ] MM: Talking at end of Let's Go Now [Flakeybird@aol.com] MM: Saturday Nite in Round Rock ["Cheryl Girod" ] MM: Re: Oh no! 5/18&19? [Mike Connell ] MM: a tiny tape trade [Julie E Graham ] MM: MM- story...stuff...(scuse the lingo) you'll understand in this message. ["chessa" Subject: MM: Management - Where PG is Right Now (I apologize for the length of this post, but i got started, yadda yadda yadda.) Hi Folks. This seems to be a critical period for the potential stardom of PG. Let's not forget that her management has apparently gotten her spots on Conan and Letterman-- they aren't just giving these kind of opportunities away. I suspect her management worked their butts off to secure these. This could be a make or break period. I don't really think he (whoever he is) is really all that worried about the "small time" stigma of a living room show. Fact is, as tough as this is to imagine, I doubt he is that worried about us at all right now. We are the hard-core fans who know Patty for the incredible, inspirational talent that she is. People who are really affected by her songs in a personal way. That is not going to change. Management has nothing to do with that. Would he rather have 300 more of us or 250,000 people who like "Blue Sky" enough to buy FR? I'll give you one guess. And you know what, (this is going to sound really awful), I bet Patty has the same priorities right now. It's not that they don't like us or respect us, its just that artists don't get too many second chances at making it big. I'm sure if Patty knew there were hundreds of people willing to travel to some strange, remote midwestern location ( jk :~) ) for a show, she would feel quite flattered. But to use a bad sports cliché, this is crunch time. Personally, I want PG to get rich and famous and keep making records. That is certainly what her manager wants as well. When that happens I think we may be remembered and perhaps even catered to a bit. I would wager that many dates are being intentionally left open right now. After all, what if Leno calls; what if MTV or VH1 wants to do some guest shot or promo. They want to be as flexible as they can be to accommodate such music business powers. So..... here's one possible solution that might make everybody happy: How about a short, private, possibly acoustic show for MM before a currently scheduled date. It would almost be like PattyStock. We all get to meet each other, we all get to enjoy the music, thank Patty and gush at her-- hopefully not too much ;~). I think such an event would, for lack of a better word, ROCK! Just an idea, ~ mike ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 02:19:54 -0400 From: "Michael C. Gay" Subject: MM: the idea Hi again, I've gotten myself really excited now. Sorry to go on, but just a few other thoughts to make the pre-show idea more palatable to those in charge. We would of course buy any new (or old for that matter) PG merchandise available. We would be a substantial addition to the following show's crowd. We would probably pay a premium for the opportunity, maybe packaged with some kind of officially sanctioned memorabilia (t-shirt, special pass, etc.) Could this be the beginning of an honest to goodness Fan Club? maybe. And we would go home and tell anyone we met what an incredible time we had and how cool Patty Griffin and the people she works with are. Someone tell me why this wouldn't work. ~ mike ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 07:41:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Vanessa McGowan Subject: Re: MM: Management - Where PG is Right Now For what it's worth I would LOVE that. It would be sort of like an extended meet and greet!!! - --- "Michael C. Gay" wrote: > (I apologize for the length of this post, but i got > started, > yadda yadda yadda.) > So..... here's one possible > solution that > might make everybody happy: > > How about a short, private, possibly acoustic > show for > MM before a currently scheduled date. It would > almost be > like PattyStock. We all get to meet each other, we > all get to > enjoy the music, thank Patty and gush at her-- > hopefully not > too much ;~). I think such an event would, for lack > of a > better word, ROCK! > > Just an idea, > > ~ mike > > > > === "Every tool is a weapon if you hold it right!" Ani Difranco _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 07:44:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Vanessa McGowan Subject: Re: MM: No Patty Concert MY SENTIMENTS EXACTLY!!! Thank you Molli the faery girl - --- MolliMo@aol.com wrote: > All l have to say to that is BS!! This August l > found out that Patty was playing a private function here in MN. l tried endlessly to find a connection to get me in but it was to no avail. l think that if Patty were to play a private concert for all of her fans, it would show others how amazing she is. Not only as a singer but as a person. It would show that she truly appreciates her fans, and her fans love her. I'm sure if anything was published the only thought the readers would be thinking is "Wow if her fans went to all of the trouble to see her play she must be worth checking out." So, to her manager l say it's nice to see where your priorities are. Screw the fans and get the fame and bucks! PUTZ! > Molli > === "Every tool is a weapon if you hold it right!" Ani Difranco _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:45:41 EDT From: Flakeybird@aol.com Subject: MM: Talking at end of Let's Go Now Happy Monday everyone Has anyone else noticed the talking at the end of Let's Go Now? I can't make out all of it. You hear Patty's hand slide of a guitar string and then a woman's voice says something like "blahking. blah blah just kills me." I have to believe that this was intentional to leave it in. Does anyone know what is being said? Ok, this proves that I definitely need to get a life. - -sharyn ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:48:38 -0500 From: "Cheryl Girod" Subject: MM: Saturday Nite in Round Rock Ok, here's my version of Patty at Old Settler's--(I'm sure they'll be lots more, there were alot of Patty fans up front, also!!) She came on right at sunset-and it was a spectacular sunset-everyone was turned around watching the sun go down--most amazing--after a great day-its in the 80's with the sun cranked down here in Texas-people were swimming in the lake Saturday She wore a black strapped t-shirt and long rust skirt-she did a slow intro to Flaming Red-with the red lights on it was incredible--(she played alone) Lots of people got stage front in front of the snow fence-there were small children dancing-Patty asked one of the toddlers inbetween songs what her name was--she intro'ed Mary talking about her grandmother Mary O'Conner- She played Tony right after I called for it (a coincidence I know, but it felt good)--there was a good crowd response for Change-- She was gracious and personable with the crowd, and she just rocked. I could go on and on--the best part for me was I got to sit in the front row, front and center, with my 8 year old on my lap- watching his face while he looked up at her, just amazed at the whole thing--singing parts of the songs he knows from listening to her over and over. Sometimes it's just good to be alive. Cheryl ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:19:18 EDT From: CornflkGl@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: A little note about Patty's manager!!! In a message dated 4/11/99 2:10:57 PM EST, faerygirl23@yahoo.com writes: << does anybody know when pattygriffin.com will be up? >> Here's some interesting old gossip (sorry if anyone already addressed this)- pattygriffin.com isn't owned by Patty, or anyone on her team. Some guy bought it, either because he was a fan and wanted to celebrate her or he figured eventually Patty would buy it from him for big $. Patty isn't interested in doing so, so the guy is just sitting on the site... any communication with him through the site ( and the little mailing list sign up there) gets you nowhere. I have a feeling he'll never do anything with it. Rachel :D ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:26:57 EDT From: CornflkGl@aol.com Subject: MM: Patty's Manager Ok, so we all know the guy is being a putz. I just wanna warn everyone to tread lightly here... if he is reading this list, and we all complain about what a schmuck he is, we'll ruin our chances of ever getting anything from him, like, ever. I agree with everyone's sentiments about him, but just remember that Big Brother may be watching ;). In the fall of '96 I had tickets to see Patty as an opening act at The Iron Horse in Northampton. It was supposed to be the second time I'd ever seen her, and I was incredibly excited. I even bought her a dozen roses (I know, I know, how juvenile). Anyway, I got in line and waited... until I noticed her name wasn't on the sign. I found out she'd cancelled at the last minute to play some free festival somewhere else instead. Sure, she might have gotten more exposure at that festival, but all I know is that I was incredibly pissed off at her. Now I know it probably wasn't her decision. Just wanted to point out that while this maybe isn't a common practice for her (i.e. her management), it does happen, and it takes a lot of guts n stuff not to get pissed at her. Now I have a bad guy to blame it on :) Rachel :D ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:28:24 EDT From: CornflkGl@aol.com Subject: MM: Patty @ Iron Horse 4/19 Who's going ? I finally got tickets yesterday, and this is the first time I'll really get to introduce my fiance to the awesomeness that is live Patty. Whee ! Let me know if you're gonna be there, either at this address or raitch@banet.net (which has no mail controls)... thanks guys... Rachel :D ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:06:06 -0500 (CDT) From: Julie E Graham Subject: MM: Oh no! 5/18&19? Uh oh!! I just checked www.328performancehall.com to see if the 5/18 & 19 shows were sold out yet. Where the site once said Lucinda Williams with special guest Patty Griffin, it now says special guest Hayseed. Darn it!! I already get tickets! Does anyone know if the 5/ 18 &19 shows are completely kaput? Julie "Raised by Wolves in Alaska. Learned to yodel at the moon. Lived in a van on the San Diego freeway, only stopped for gas...." - Jewel reflects jokingly of critics' view of her childhood. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 20:08:16 -0400 From: Mike Connell Subject: MM: Re: Oh no! 5/18&19? Julie panicked (and understandably so) : >Uh oh!! I just checked www.328performancehall.com to see if the 5/18 & 19 >shows were sold out yet. Where the site once said Lucinda Williams with >special guest Patty Griffin, it now says special guest Hayseed. Darn it!! I >already get tickets! Does anyone know if the 5/ 18 &19 shows are completely >kaput? They are still on with Patty!! :-) The Hayseeds are opening, Patty is on second, then Lucinda. I am not sure as to the technical/legal reason why, but since Patty is appearing in Nashville on May 2nd at River Stages, they can't advertise Patty's appearances/shows at the 328 Performance Hall until after the River Stages show occurs. (This info/clarification is directly from Patty's management) Mike :-) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:23:47 -0500 (CDT) From: Julie E Graham Subject: MM: a tiny tape trade Hi M&M's, I have an extra original copy of Patty's "Selections from Flaming Red" tape. I'm looking to trade my extra original copy for a tape of some live or non-lp Patty songs. For those who don't know what this promo is, the tracks are: Intro Flaming Red (snippet) Patty discusses why she sings and writes One Big Love (snippet) Change (snippet) Patty discusses "Christina" Christina (snippet) Patty discusses what music she is into Wiggley fingers (lp) What Patty hears when whe listens to the album If you would like to trade, let me know. :) Thanks, Julie "Raised by Wolves in Alaska. Learned to yodel at the moon. Lived in a van on the San Diego freeway, only stopped for gas...." - Jewel reflects jokingly of critics' view of her childhood. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 00:02:16 -0400 From: "chessa" Subject: MM: MM- story...stuff...(scuse the lingo) you'll understand in this message. we are the consumers of the world..be careful of what you say man.... sharyn- thanks it made me smile < Happy Monday everyone> i'd love this meeting too. tho i'm in new york and 17. and jobless and gong to college so the money thang (getting htere) would be very difficult for this show to work out for me...but whatever happens, happens. okay. so this is my story. last night. had a HUGE HUGE fight HUGE HUGE fight..again..HUGE HUGE fight with my parents about college, where i'm going..where i want to go and where they want me to go conflict like..in a big ars way. so we were fighting for about 1.2 hours. and well, i just went into my room, around 11:24 pm. started crying HYSTERICALLY. like i've never ever done before (iv'e cried but not to that degree. where for 2 hours, again 2 hours i could not stop....) so long story short. i put on Patty's LWG.......... (which i never ever listen to becuase, honestly, it just didn't click with me for a while...i was hooked on Flaming red...i'm a newer fan...leanne rljjmom....got me hooked. she told me about patty, and she is on the list. and also, she's in california seeing sheryl crow who is my goddess..but that's another list converstaion...) .and well. long story shrot. at 1 am. smoking a really really bad cigarette (my dad's monarch's... narsty.........) listening to patty's every little bit and moses, fucking hit me like a golf ball right smack in da middle of me head. i was all better. honestly. i've never had a revelation over patty and i'm so so 1 fortunate to finally experience AND 2. recognize it. so the moral of the story goes: patty made me feel better. Ah. *drinks refreshing h2o.* thanks patty, i cannot thank her enough. thanks' yall for listening to me. i really appreciate it. ps. dave..thanks for the tape of nancy...i dig...im 'still listening to the b side....and the liner notes include MM! shit. that's mad kewl. peace. amanda chessa@computer.net IM- crowlennon "i'm a flower in the mud"--ssc "just go out there and give-em love"- patti smith ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V3 #103 *********************************