From: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org (mad-mission-digest) To: mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Subject: mad-mission-digest V2 #315 Reply-To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sender: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * mad-mission-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Patty's tour dates, go to: * http://www.spectra.net/~ducksoup/pattyg/patttyg.htm * OR * go to http://www.amrecords.com * then click "tour" and fill in the blanks :) * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V2 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. mad-mission-digest Friday, October 23 1998 Volume 02 : Number 315 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: MM: tshirts [David Lewis ] Re: MM: Re: sexually repressed priests??? [David Lewis ] MM: Re: RE: Tee-Shirts ["Kevin Pease" ] Re: MM: RE: T-shirts [cdaignea@bakerbotts.com] Re[2]: MM: Re: sexually repressed priests??? [cdaignea@bakerbotts.com] MM: RE:JUST A QUESTION ["Paquin, John" ] Re: MM: RE: T-shirts [CornflkGl@aol.com] Re: MM: RE: T-shirts [rblack1@io.com (Ronda Blacksher)] MM: T-Shirts [rblack1@io.com (Ronda Blacksher)] Re: MM: RE: T-shirts [jessica.sampson@sbaor.com (Jessica Sampson)] MM: SPF 15 ["Paul Russell" ] MM: Bowery last night - Raw Patty [Sharyn Murray ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 07:14:38 -0300 From: David Lewis Subject: Re: MM: tshirts Here is s suggestion for the t-shirt thing :) I don't know how you guys are considering producing these things, but imagine it will probably be a small number of shirts. Whith this in mind, it might be an idea to simple make iron-on's on an ink-jet. I've already made two Patty t-shirts myself this way... both text based :) Personally I don't like the idea of wearing a picture of someone :/ But that's just me :) Anyway, you can buy this transfer paper stuff at Staples or whereever. I bought some here for about $20 (Canadian) for about 10 sheets I think. It works best on light colored material. The cool thing about just making the transfers is that people can then iron them onto anything they want! As far as the legal thing goes, I can't say for sure, but as long as you're not profiting from it, I don't imagine there would be much of a problem in that area... but that's just a guess. By the way, the shirts I made are a copy of the "girly-t's" they sell at some of the shows. I bought one of the shirts, scanned it, traced it in a drawing program, raterized it in Photoshop, flipped it and then printed it out on my Epson ink-jet to a sheet of transfer paper :) Very cool. The only thing of course is that your design is limited to an 8.5x11 area... but that should be big enough. Anyway, I would be happy to submit a design for such a shirt if this project moves forward :) Dave - ------------------------- David Lewis Digital & Print Media Design dlewis@hfx.andara.com - ------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 07:28:38 -0300 From: David Lewis Subject: Re: MM: Re: sexually repressed priests??? >yeah well it threw me simply because the first thing that pops into my >mind when seeing a priest, sexually repressed or not, isn't usually >him talking about kissing a boy or meeting a man...*L* > >Lamia Actually... a priest kissing a boy is *exactly* what comes first to my mind when I think of a sexually repressed priest. There have been soooo many cases in the past decade of catholic priests molesting young boys. Sad but true. I think it's time the catholic religion move out of the dark ages and allow priests to marry and women to preach, etc... but it'll never happen. The idea that sex is evil is too deeply rooted... heck, Mary was a virgin mother?! Ugh :/ - ------------------------- David Lewis Digital & Print Media Design dlewis@hfx.andara.com - ------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 08:17:33 EDT From: Mercyme37@aol.com Subject: MM: Re: Excessive Volume Hi all you mad missioners! Last Thurs. I went to my first Patty concert, I was at the Keswick Theater outside of Philly. The sound SUCKED. Band to loud Patty was drowned out. Thank god I was with a person who is in LOVE with Patty. He told me not to judge her talant. I got the Flaming Red CD. Wow! Is she Great. very deep , very throaty, very excellent. She played a song on the keyboard (at the Keswick). Since she is just learning the piano I think she is VERY GUTSY. I was impressed, admiration I think is the right word. Too bad the sound was off, it didn't do her justice. What's up with that? I talked to the management at the Keswick. They said it was her sound guy and theirs. Maybe a territory war? In reply to Sexually repressed priests: The info you read might have been about St. Francis Xaver (school; getting kicked out), and dreaming about hollow candle holders! Now thats sexually repressed. And if it wasn't for the repression and the great sin mentallity taught in catholic church,Tony might still be here. Tony, by the way, was the song that I was able to hear most of the words to at the show, and was touched! Karla Ps. T-shirts are a great idea! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:16:51 -0300 From: pattyh@nb.sympatico.ca Subject: MM: Quote for Shirt Just to know - I'd get a shirt if we got them made. Second - I like Kate's quote "It's a mad mission/ but I got the ambition/mad mad mision/sign me up" I think it is most relevant and fitting for our group!:)) Just thought I'd let ya' know:)) Patty:) "My thighs have been involved in many accidents And I can't get insured and I don't need to be lured by you." Ani Difranco ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 09:24:16 -0500 From: "Paquin, John" Subject: MM: RE: Tee-Shirts I vote for Alan's design!!!! - -john - --------------------------------------------------------------- Front? "It's a Mad Mission/Sign me up!" Back? mad-mission@smoe.org Alan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 10:51:13 -0400 From: "Kevin Pease" Subject: MM: Re: RE: Tee-Shirts >> Paquin, John writes: >I vote for Alan's design!!!! >--------------------------------------------------------------- > > Front? "It's a Mad Mission/Sign me up!" > Back? mad-mission@smoe.org > I second that emotion. Alan's idea is simple, clever (I think, at least :), and very fitting, all things considered. Somebody said they're not too jazzed on the idea of wearing someone's picture, I'll agree with that one, too... this would be a simple, straightforward design, and we wouldn't be wearing a big picture of someone on our chest or back. Kevin - ---------- Kevin Pease kbpease@boston.crosswinds.net (ICQ UIN: 3106063) (AOL Instant Messenger: kbpease) http://www.crosswinds.net/boston/~kbpease "Sitting here at the water's edge now that the storm has gone, First time in years it feels like nothing's wrong, There've been a lot of changes, I was so lost for a while, Sitting here I remember how it's easy to smile..." ---(Heather Nova, "Grow Young")--- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Oct 98 09:27:09 -0600 From: cdaignea@bakerbotts.com Subject: Re: MM: RE: T-shirts I like it. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: MM: RE: T-shirts Author: at internet Date: 10/22/98 9:22 PM In a message dated 10/22/98 7:56:54 PM, kate suggested a very appropriate lyric quote to put on a possible list t-shirt: >It's a mad mission/ but I got the ambition/ mad, mad mission/ sign me up I'd only add--how's about that quote, but simplified? Front? "It's a Mad Mission/Sign me up!" Back? mad-mission@smoe.org Alan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Oct 98 09:32:02 -0600 From: cdaignea@bakerbotts.com Subject: Re[2]: MM: Re: sexually repressed priests??? Isn't using the word *priest* and the words *sexually repressed* in the same sentence redundant? My, my, my....the thoughts on the minds of the Mad-Missioners today! LOL Looks like a good weekend will be had by all! ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: MM: Re: sexually repressed priests??? Author: at internet Date: 10/22/98 10:17 PM In a message dated 10/22/98 7:41:44 PM Central Daylight Time, jl51197@swt.edu writes: << Vickie, Vickie, do you really do that particular thing to that particular song? Just curious... jkl >> ROFLMAO. Actually, a song can be about more than one thing, no? Shhhh don't tell anyone but I think it's about both ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 10:34:08 -0500 From: "Paquin, John" Subject: MM: RE:JUST A QUESTION Mad Missionaries! That's perfect because I recently led an expedition to convert the musical tastes of an isolated group of 70's AOR rock aborigines. They had strange, vulgar habits such as pumping their fists up and down violently, or shouting out ritual incantations like "FRIGGING AEROSMITH, MAN!!" or "VAN HALEN ROCKS!!!" I tried to teach them our gentler ways. We sat together, reading Patty lyrics, strumming chords on the acoustic guitar. Our words must have seemed strange to them, because they laughed every time I said words like "virginal" and "cocksure." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:37:01 EDT From: CornflkGl@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: RE: T-shirts I, too, vote for "It's a mad, mad mission/Sign me up!" (etc., Alan's idea). However, a suggestion to whoever is thinking about taking this project on... can we have the addy of the list on the back be printed somewhere around mid- back height ? I know it's picky, but I hate it when my hair covers the back of a shirt. Hee hee.... I love being a pain :) Rachel :D ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:08:54 -0500 From: rblack1@io.com (Ronda Blacksher) Subject: Re: MM: RE: T-shirts I'm with Rachel - and vote for Alan's thoughts. Mid to lower would be great ... Ronda At 11:37 AM 10/23/98 EDT, CornflkGl@aol.com wrote: >I, too, vote for "It's a mad, mad mission/Sign me up!" (etc., Alan's idea). >However, a suggestion to whoever is thinking about taking this project on... >can we have the addy of the list on the back be printed somewhere around mid- >back height ? I know it's picky, but I hate it when my hair covers the back of >a shirt. > >Hee hee.... I love being a pain :) > >Rachel :D > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:10:19 -0500 From: rblack1@io.com (Ronda Blacksher) Subject: MM: T-Shirts I'm with Rachel - and vote for Alan's thoughts. Mid to lower would be great ... Ronda At 11:37 AM 10/23/98 EDT, CornflkGl@aol.com wrote: >I, too, vote for "It's a mad, mad mission/Sign me up!" (etc., Alan's idea). >However, a suggestion to whoever is thinking about taking this project on... >can we have the addy of the list on the back be printed somewhere around mid- >back height ? I know it's picky, but I hate it when my hair covers the back of >a shirt. > >Hee hee.... I love being a pain :) > >Rachel :D > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 09:17:38 -0700 From: jessica.sampson@sbaor.com (Jessica Sampson) Subject: Re: MM: RE: T-shirts Well it looks like the Mad Mission quote is the most popular so far and I like what one Missioner suggessted about not having a huge picutre on the shirt, but is there anyway we can find out from Patty's mgmt, is someone calling them, I thought that someone offered to call them on yesterdays post, Ill keep waiting to hear news!!! Love Jess CornflkGl@aol.com wrote: > I, too, vote for "It's a mad, mad mission/Sign me up!" (etc., Alan's idea). > However, a suggestion to whoever is thinking about taking this project on... > can we have the addy of the list on the back be printed somewhere around mid- > back height ? I know it's picky, but I hate it when my hair covers the back of > a shirt. > > Hee hee.... I love being a pain :) > > Rachel :D ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 09:13:21 PDT From: "Paul Russell" Subject: MM: SPF 15 Arctic weather sucks! That cold front made it get down into the 50's and even 40's recently (BRRRR)..(GRRRR), but I'm not here to talk about that. Here are some comments from little 'ol me. :) Patty Griffin's soundman definitely has ear damage. If your ears are almost bleeding by the end of one show, just think how many times he has heard the same show at the same mind-shattering volume levels. He probably doesn't realize that he's quite as loud as he is, even though people keep telling him. I don't know what to say, except wear earplugs. I was macho once when I went to my first real concert which was *groan* Great White. And some unknown band called Skid Row opened for them. And later that year Skid Row made their fame. And my eardrums had that funky ring to them for the next day and a half. After that I wore earplugs cuz I figured that no musician is gonna make me deaf, and one of my metal friends already had minor hearing problems. But this is a moot point and I'm cold. About the MM shirts...I think that's a fabulous, groovy, bitchin, and far out idea. I'd love to get one of those, and proudly display Ms. Griffin to the world. Dave from Digital Print Media and Designs had a point though. You can easily do the ink-jet iron-on thing and it does look good, even though it's limited to the size of paper. My co-worker has done it several times and the t-shirts look real cool, like in-style alternative stuff. And I was thinking of making my own Patty Griffin shirt like that (and not selling it, of course)from her Living With Ghosts CD sleeve. But as stated, I think there are copyright infringements and stuff like that. On the MM shirts I think the quote is GREAT! But I might shorten it to something like "Mad mad mission" on the front and "sign me up" on the back for the sake of space. But that's just me. Also, speaking of Patty Griffin, (ha ha, like when are we NOT speaking of Patty Griffin) I have this weekly TV show that's in a news-type format and it needs an outro where, you know, all that "special thanks to" stuff goes...about 40 seconds. I was originally going to use Turkey Mallet for the music bed. But two days ago I was thinking, "why not use Patty Griffin?" I guess I need to get Flaming Red to go through the songs because I didn't feel that any of the Living With Ghosts songs were appropriate. Before we get into that copyright infringement stuff again, the cable company I work for has the rights. They basically have the same license a radio station has so that's not a problem. My program goes out all over the county and I thought maybe I could get Santa Rosa County interested in Ms. Griffin's music. Any suggestions for which song? Keep in mind that I ask local residents about their opinions too. And that's how I came up with Turkey Mallet because with their ska-tango kind of music, they actually appeal to a wide range of ages (dont' tell them that they would probably dis-band...if they haven't already, it's one of those free CD's college radios dump out). wow, I seem to be pretty mellow this morning. It must be this cold weather..or maybe cuz I went out drinking last night...or both. I'll stop now to read the paper and make breakfast, or lunch, or whatever I can shove down my throat. Later y'all! Peace, love, and vegetable rights. paul ***************************************************** * How do you know if it's art? If I can do it, * * it's not art. Example, fingerpainting...not art. * * --Red Green * ***************************************************** ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:26:08 -0400 From: Sharyn Murray Subject: MM: Bowery last night - Raw Patty Did anyone besides me catch the show last night? I'm interested to know what you thought. I liked Iodine. They reminded me of Bowie. Catchy melodies. This was my first time seeing Patty with the band. I definitely prefer her solo. My feeling is that she is so good alone that she doesn't need any bells and whistles. However, I really did like the band playing on Wiggly Fingers and Tony. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 09:41:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Pretty Silver Grrrl Subject: MM: SteadyOnDC@aol.com?? sorry for all those of ya'll who this doesn't pertain to!! Lamia - ---Recidivist Spice wrote: > > okay, this chicky on your Patty list emailed me, but when i tried to get > back to her, i got my message bounced back to me. can you get a hold of > her via your list? i would so appreciate it. thanks lovey. > > Jill > > > >Hi Denise-- > > > >glad you liked the review :) > > > >hmmm... can you show me what you have of IG and Ani? > > > >oh, shawn colvin? have you heard the indigo girls' promo cd Shades of > >Indigo? it's Shawn interviewing them in 1990. i have that on cd, if > you > >want a copy of that too. (i'm feeling all nice or something ;)) > > > >i'll be sending a group email with details on the Patty boot, so look > >out for that. > > > >Jill > > > > == "Love demands expression. I will not stay still, stay silent, Be good, be modest, be seen and not heard, NO!... A precise emotion seeks a precise expression. If what I feel is not precise then should I call it love?" - --Jeanette Winterson, Writen on the Body _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V2 #315 *********************************