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A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V2 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. mad-mission-digest Thursday, October 22 1998 Volume 02 : Number 312 Today's Subjects: ----------------- MM: Directions to Bowery [Sharyn Murray ] MM: Therapy & Healing? [JessBartn@aol.com] Re: MM: patty shirts [JessBartn@aol.com] Re: MM: Pittsburgh and Iodine do not mix!!!!!!! [LWalshPGH@aol.com] Re: MM: patty shirts [jessica.sampson@sbaor.com (Jessica Sampson)] [none] [Tim Blackburn ] MM: Tony [rblack1@io.com (Ronda Blacksher)] MM: Radio ["Perlman, Judith" ] Re: MM: Radio [caroline bonnivier ] MM: Updates ["Perlman, Judith" ] MM: Updates 2 ["Perlman, Judith" ] MM: TABS for "let him fly"? [Lauren Bond ] Re[2]: MM: Pittsburgh and Iodine do not mix!!!!!!! [cdaignea@bakerbotts.] Re: MM: Tony [Joshua Lilley ] MM: tshirts [Pretty Silver Grrrl ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 09:46:21 -0400 From: Sharyn Murray Subject: MM: Directions to Bowery Can anyone give me driving directions from the Holland Tunnel to tonight's gig? Much appreciated. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 09:52:57 EDT From: JessBartn@aol.com Subject: MM: Therapy & Healing? Hi lovely MM'rs! Well I guess we all get something different out of the music we listen to...? Thought I'd share my morning workout experience with you guys. Patty's coming to Chicago in a week or so, so I thought I'd pull out Flaming Red and revive my passions while I did the stairclimber this morning. There I was stepping away when Wiggly fingers came on. All of a sudden in the midst of my panting and sweating I started feeling this RAGE about my childhood as a Catholic Girl. I had a memory of shamefully being asked to leave church services when I was a child because my skirt was above my knee's....another memory of sitting in a confessional telling my sins to a drunken priest....another memory I won't go into right now that's pretty painful....I was soooo angry through the whole song I thought the stairclimber I was bouncing on would overheat! These were memories I hadn't thought about in years. Then the song ended and went right into Blue Sky and I felt a sense of freedom and elation that I let my anger out... it was an amazing 15 minutes of therapy. Thank You Patty. »§«:*´`³¤³´`*:»§«. Jess, .Another Patty Enthusiast .»§«:*´`³¤³´`*:»§«. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 09:58:55 EDT From: JessBartn@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: patty shirts They sold a shirt at the last show in Chicago. No picture thought....just a red and silver patch that says Patty Griffin. Jess ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 10:56:58 EDT From: LWalshPGH@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: Pittsburgh and Iodine do not mix!!!!!!! Lisa, Remember those words Patty used. "This is my favorite band in the world." It is time we all accept the fact that LWG was the way it is because Patty could probably not afford to produce it any other way. The record industry is a well thought out business. It is all about sales! The more the merrier. They have lost my purchase of the third album but could have gained 3 new people. Nirvana sold millions. Larry. In a message dated 10/21/98 10:12:43 PM Central Daylight Time, lba290@hecky.acns.nwu.edu writes: << Subj: Re: MM: Pittsburgh and Iodine do not mix!!!!!!! Date: 10/21/98 10:12:43 PM Central Daylight Time From: lba290@hecky.acns.nwu.edu (rainswept@nwu.edu) To: LWalshPGH@aol.com WOW, that is rather harsh, but if it is true--and if it is am I glad I wasn't there-- I think it takes balls to say that. I hope that Patty's management listens to what the fans are saying. And from what I hear, it seems that her bandmates--at least the bass player-- don't really wanto to please the fans as much as play things their way. I think that if people are asking for it to be turned down, there is a reason for it. Thanks for the post. Patty is a doll and I love her dearly--she has been nothing but kind to me-- but I don't think that this is what she had in mind for her shows. I don't think she would want the fans to walk away hearing impaired. Lisa On Wed, 21 Oct 1998 LWalshPGH@aol.com wrote: > For all you MM'ers who are longing for the LWG days of just Patty and her > Guitar, I have one word for you, Iodine. Last nights show in Pittsburgh > explained it all when Patty came on stage to introduce the opening act and > called them her "favorite band in the world." There name was "Iodine" and it > was brutal. I have read numerous posts on this list about the ear piercing > volumes of Patty shows around the country. Patty's sound guy was doing the > sound for Iodine and he took pleasure in forcing everyone in attendance to put > pieces of paper napkin in there ears, some people actually walked out. I > witnessed the usual sound man for the venue plead with Patty's sound guy to > turn it down. Not a chance. The usual sound guy then went and distributed > ear plugs to some people he knew in the crowd. > I think you would all agree that Patty's music would be classified somewhere > in realm of adult contemporary. I am not happy with that title because I am > not that old, but lets be realistic. I just have to wonder who in the record > company would allow a Patty Griffin concert to be opened by a Seattle want- a- > be grunge band from Nashville? > Let me clarify Iodine's music for you. There were three of them. All very > talented musicians. The music was typical "Nirvana" but four times to loud, > (then again Nirvana was also loud.) I guess my point is we must listen and > listen well to those words from Patty's mouth as she introduced this band. > She said, "This is my favorite band in the world!" They actually were the > studio musicians that played on Flaming Red. I have come to the realization > that the type of musician I thought Patty was when I first bought LWG is truly > not what her music is all about. Nothing is wrong with a little diversity, it > is what it is...... I would take Patty alone with just her six string over > almost any musician today. Add Iodine and you can keep it. > Just My opinion! > > Larry. > > PS. For those of you concerned with what the set list was. She played 1.5 > songs from LWG. The .5 accounted for the second worst part of my night when > Patty and the band bastardized arguably my favorite song "Let Him Fly." When > you have something perfect you never change it. > Sorry for the venting. I would love to see your response Johnny. > ********************************************************************** >> ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 08:38:27 -0700 From: jessica.sampson@sbaor.com (Jessica Sampson) Subject: Re: MM: patty shirts Jess, Thats cool. Do you think there is a way we can all get one? I would love a shirt maybe her management would give them to all of us Mad Missioners, who are the real fans here. As a way to promote Patty of course. Not a bad idea I think. Jessica"a Patty fan" JessBartn@aol.com wrote: > They sold a shirt at the last show in Chicago. > > No picture thought....just a red and silver patch that says Patty Griffin. > > Jess ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 09:49:56 -0600 From: Tim Blackburn Subject: [none] hello all you mishers, I have a very cool thing I just wanted to share with you all. I recently joined a club called B.G.L.A.D. (bisexual, gay, lesbian about diversity, and for all who want to know yes I'm gay :-0) at out local college B.S.U. (Boise state university it's in Idaho for all of you who don't know were that college is located) anyways, we had a poetry night and I decided to share the song Tony with them all, and it was definitely was a big hit of the meeting. I probably came out of that meeting with at least 10 more patty fans. it was very very cool. Anyways, the point of the story is that patty isn't very well know down here in Idaho too bad really she one the best artist out there in my opinion. I have 2 more questions also does anyone have the guitar tabs to "One Big Love", and about the t-shirt thing I would deffinately like to buy one if someone knows where to get one or the next person to go to one of her concerts I will mail you money if you pick me up one. Anyways have to go back to work. Later, Tim ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 11:00:17 -0500 From: rblack1@io.com (Ronda Blacksher) Subject: MM: Tony Thanks for that, Tim. That song made me go a little weak in the knees when I first heard it too ... Ronda At 09:49 AM 10/22/98 -0600, Tim Blackburn wrote: >hello all you mishers, > I have a very cool thing I just wanted to share with you all. I >recently joined a club called B.G.L.A.D. (bisexual, gay, lesbian about >diversity, and for all who want to know yes I'm gay :-0) at out local >college B.S.U. (Boise state university it's in Idaho for all of you who >don't know were that college is located) anyways, we had a poetry night and >I decided to share the song Tony with them all, and it was definitely was a >big hit of the meeting. I probably came out of that meeting with at least 10 >more patty fans. it was very very cool. Anyways, the point of the story is >that patty isn't very well know down here in Idaho too bad really she one >the best artist out there in my opinion. > I have 2 more questions also does anyone have the guitar tabs to "One >Big Love", and about the t-shirt thing I would deffinately like to buy one >if someone knows where to get one or the next person to go to one of her >concerts I will mail you money if you pick me up one. Anyways have to go >back to work. > >Later, >Tim > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 12:24:41 -0400 From: "Perlman, Judith" Subject: MM: Radio I can here Patty right now on the radio doing an acoustic version of "One Big Love." Updates wanted? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 23:35:32 -0400 From: caroline bonnivier Subject: Re: MM: Radio >I can here Patty right now on the radio doing an acoustic version of >"One Big Love." wow how frustrating is this? i am quite literally smack in the middle of nyc and cant get this radio station in. ack. hope the show is great... peace and stuff caroline chick in charge http://www.guppy22.com the guppies now have a bigger pond to swim in, we are now a part of fashionmall.com heres all the new info: guppy22 575 madison ave 7th floor new york ny 10022 direct: 212.891.8072 fax: 212.891.6033 http://www.guppy22.com/~caroline ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 12:43:00 -0400 From: "Perlman, Judith" Subject: MM: Updates Re: "Let's Go Now" - she thinks Ella Fitzgerald is phenomenal. Interviewer: there's always been an instant response to your songs; vulnerability & rawness, do you ever get tired of opening it all up out there? Yes, she's been laying off them, has to rest them for awhile, so when people scream for "Sweet Lorraine"...she has to do what feels right. Took her a long time to build up her confidence, some things you just want so much, you don't think you deserve them. Int.: FR more about stories & characters Now she's singing Tony, said it was part fiction. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 12:51:05 -0400 From: "Perlman, Judith" Subject: MM: Updates 2 Her band is so talented they're having so much fun. They have a VCR & some of the things they watch are Wallace & Grommit, and an up and coming comedian named John Detrick (sp?) who they're going to shove out on stage 1 night. She was just listening to Bob Mould "Dog & Pony Show", Chaka Khan new album, Prince new album. She met Willie Nelson who's got THE BUS, and he made her beam, shook her hand and she smiled like a goofy person. Now doing Crazy. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 12:56:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Lauren Bond Subject: MM: TABS for "let him fly"? does anyone have guitar tabs for "let him fly"? please e-mail me... thanks! Lauren ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Oct 98 11:47:09 -0600 From: cdaignea@bakerbotts.com Subject: Re[2]: MM: Pittsburgh and Iodine do not mix!!!!!!! I'm happy I know all this in advance.....I'll come prepared on Saturday with a fresh set of earplugs. One question...........is Patty's set too loud? ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: MM: Pittsburgh and Iodine do not mix!!!!!!! Author: at internet Date: 10/22/98 10:56 AM Lisa, Remember those words Patty used. "This is my favorite band in the world." It is time we all accept the fact that LWG was the way it is because Patty could probably not afford to produce it any other way. The record industry is a well thought out business. It is all about sales! The more the merrier. They have lost my purchase of the third album but could have gained 3 new people. Nirvana sold millions. Larry. In a message dated 10/21/98 10:12:43 PM Central Daylight Time, lba290@hecky.acns.nwu.edu writes: << Subj: Re: MM: Pittsburgh and Iodine do not mix!!!!!!! Date: 10/21/98 10:12:43 PM Central Daylight Time From: lba290@hecky.acns.nwu.edu (rainswept@nwu.edu) To: LWalshPGH@aol.com WOW, that is rather harsh, but if it is true--and if it is am I glad I wasn't there-- I think it takes balls to say that. I hope that Patty's management listens to what the fans are saying. And from what I hear, it seems that her bandmates--at least the bass player-- don't really wanto to please the fans as much as play things their way. I think that if people are asking for it to be turned down, there is a reason for it. Thanks for the post. Patty is a doll and I love her dearly--she has been nothing but kind to me-- but I don't think that this is what she had in mind for her shows. I don't think she would want the fans to walk away hearing impaired. Lisa On Wed, 21 Oct 1998 LWalshPGH@aol.com wrote: > For all you MM'ers who are longing for the LWG days of just Patty and her > Guitar, I have one word for you, Iodine. Last nights show in Pittsburgh > explained it all when Patty came on stage to introduce the opening act and > called them her "favorite band in the world." There name was "Iodine" and it > was brutal. I have read numerous posts on this list about the ear piercing > volumes of Patty shows around the country. Patty's sound guy was doing the > sound for Iodine and he took pleasure in forcing everyone in attendance to put > pieces of paper napkin in there ears, some people actually walked out. I > witnessed the usual sound man for the venue plead with Patty's sound guy to > turn it down. Not a chance. The usual sound guy then went and distributed > ear plugs to some people he knew in the crowd. > I think you would all agree that Patty's music would be classified somewhere > in realm of adult contemporary. I am not happy with that title because I am > not that old, but lets be realistic. I just have to wonder who in the record > company would allow a Patty Griffin concert to be opened by a Seattle want- a- > be grunge band from Nashville? > Let me clarify Iodine's music for you. There were three of them. All very > talented musicians. The music was typical "Nirvana" but four times to loud, > (then again Nirvana was also loud.) I guess my point is we must listen and > listen well to those words from Patty's mouth as she introduced this band. > She said, "This is my favorite band in the world!" They actually were the > studio musicians that played on Flaming Red. I have come to the realization > that the type of musician I thought Patty was when I first bought LWG is truly > not what her music is all about. Nothing is wrong with a little diversity, it > is what it is...... I would take Patty alone with just her six string over > almost any musician today. Add Iodine and you can keep it. > Just My opinion! > > Larry. > > PS. For those of you concerned with what the set list was. She played 1.5 > songs from LWG. The .5 accounted for the second worst part of my night when > Patty and the band bastardized arguably my favorite song "Let Him Fly." When > you have something perfect you never change it. > Sorry for the venting. I would love to see your response Johnny. > ********************************************************************** >> ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:47:51 -0500 (CDT) From: Joshua Lilley Subject: Re: MM: Tony TONY...is the very first song I play for people off of Flaming Red! It is the the most bad ass song on the album!!!!!!!! It rocks, and it comments on an important subject... I LOVE THE SONG TONY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! jkl ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 12:14:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Pretty Silver Grrrl Subject: MM: tshirts ok ya'll..since everyone seems like they want a T-shirt I wanted to say..it is possible to get patty tshirts made. Like for everyone on the list..but it's pretty complicated. Some friend of mine had a tori amos shirt made to benefit RAINN and what you have to do to be able to use an artist's name is, first you have to get an ok from the management. If you want to use a picture you have to get permission from patty or her management, and from the photographer. If anyone knows how to get in touch with them to ask, and if everyone could decide on a picture, and enough people want one, I would handle the details on getting it done.. if everyone is interested! *HUGS* Lamia == "Love demands expression. I will not stay still, stay silent, Be good, be modest, be seen and not heard, NO!... A precise emotion seeks a precise expression. If what I feel is not precise then should I call it love?" - --Jeanette Winterson, Writen on the Body _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V2 #312 *********************************