From: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org (mad-mission-digest) To: mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Subject: mad-mission-digest V2 #212 Reply-To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sender: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * If you wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * mad-mission-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Patty's tour dates, go to: * http://www.spectra.net/~ducksoup/pattyg/patttyg.htm * OR * go to http://www.amrecords.com * then click "tour" and fill in the blanks :) * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V2 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. mad-mission-digest Monday, July 27 1998 Volume 02 : Number 212 Today's Subjects: ----------------- MM: no she's not headlining with edwin, sorry [Cre8beauty@aol.com] MM: Allow me to intro myself... [C Israelson ] MM: Why PG struck a nerve [C Israelson ] MM: Just curious.. [JessBartn@aol.com] Re: MM: Just curious.. [David Lewis ] MM: Updates!! [Mystchif1@aol.com] MM: MM-stopped in my tracks- to music store [dana ] Re: MM: MM-stopped in my tracks- to music store [podkayne@bennington.edu] MM: One more song [Mystchif1@aol.com] MM: Patty on KSCA ["Victoria Chenevey" ] MM: a patty guitar tab page?? [ASIS143@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 13:35:11 EDT From: Cre8beauty@aol.com Subject: MM: no she's not headlining with edwin, sorry nope, she is the opener, but i have never seen her so it is a start! aaron ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 10:01:44 -0700 From: C Israelson Subject: MM: Allow me to intro myself... I'm a net neophyte, and this is my first mailing list. I subscribed last weekend, then immediately flew to Miami for a week-long job. On Wednesday, my daughter paged me to tell me I had 36 new E-mail messages. That number eventually swelled to 80, and after plowing through them I have to say how tickled I am to find people with similar PG experiences. Like Ashley Tsongas, hearing ELB made it imperative that I buy the CD ASAP, but it took me awhile to realize what I had. Like Steve aka GRMACHN, I probably never would have heard Patty at all if not for the late, great KSCA-FM in L.A., which played ELB on its LAST DAY on the air, just minutes before I arrived at a client's office. Anyway, I've always had a bad habit of playing my new favorite song to death while overlooking the possibility that the rest of the album could be equal or better, so when I needed a break from ELB, LWG gathered dust for about a month. I was saved from myself by a week in St. Louis, where I knew I'd be working a lot of late nights and would also have access to a boom box after hours. So, I packed five or six recently-acquired CDs with the intention of giving them all thorough scrutiny. When it was LWG's turn, I ended up letting it play non-stop for about six hours. Sweet Lorraine, Moses, Mad Mission, Poor Man's House...this was a revelation. The only song that has failed to grab me is You Never Get What You Want (sorry, Sara). As soon as Flaming Red was available, I snapped it up and chose to eat dinner 30 miles from my hotel so I could hear it all the way through. Although the full band sound was jarring at first, and I think there's no doubt FR is less consistent than LWG, the highs are still really high. I especially love Mary and Tony/Goodbye (they just seem to belong together). I also agree with an earlier post that opined Christina could have airplay potential, but that's not necessarily a compliment. I will finally get to see Patty live Aug. 21 at the Fox Theatre in Boulder, CO. She's on a bill with Chris Isaak, Lucinda Williams and Rufus Wainwright. I saw a great Graham Parker show there 11/96. The venue is intimate but lacks frills. Tickets were a sorta-high $30 (approx) as it's apparently some sort of benefit, so there may be a few left at (303) 443-3399. Although I gather that mentioning other music has previously been a sore spot in this group, I'm intrigued by the "MUST BUY NOW" vibe I felt when I first heard ELB (along with a coupla dozen other songs over the years, e.g., Ants Marching, Shame On You, Send Me On My Way, Copperhead Road, I'm Gonna Be, If I Had $1,000,000, Walking On Sunshine...OK, I'll stop). Hey all, what songs have stopped you in your tracks and caused you to make a beeline for the nearest CD/LP outlet? Finally, I'm not too proud to admit I don't know the answer to the following question: Who is Dar Williams, and what is his/her connection to Patty? Enlightenment, please. If you've made it this far, thanks. I won't be this long-winded ever again--promise! Larry Israelson ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 10:31:02 -0700 From: C Israelson Subject: MM: Why PG struck a nerve I know I've had a relatively easy life. I'm a tall, white, heterosexual male in a great marriage with two great kids. Bourgeois to the max. Some people (like my sister) might consider my existence hell on earth, but it suits me. Sometimes, though, I find I need songwriters like Patty to illuminate the more difficult paths others have traveled and remind me to quit whining and count my blessings. The power of songs like Sweet Lorraine, Poor Man's House and Tony just blows me away. When I hear Patty sing a line like "count your ribs and say your prayers and get to sleep," I feel like that's as close as I can ever come to understanding something I didn't experience directly. It reminds me of the passage from Springsteen's "The River:" Then I got Mary pregnant And man that was all she wrote And for my 19th birthday I got a union card and a wedding coat The consequences he sings about always hit me like a ton of bricks, even though the situation is so far from the reality of my own life. For the many of you who have a more personal connection to Patty's songs, I hope you don't consider me some sort of voyeuristic interloper. Just wanted you all to know where I'm coming from. Keeping my promise to keep it brief (or at least trying), Larry I ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 15:17:50 EDT From: JessBartn@aol.com Subject: MM: Just curious.. Hi MM'ers! Just a silly little curiousity...on the flaming red cd, does anyone know what patty says just after the song "go now"? something like...blank blank really kills me? Jess ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 16:52:54 -0300 From: David Lewis Subject: Re: MM: Just curious.. >Just a silly little curiousity...on the flaming red cd, does anyone know what >patty says just after the song "go now"? something like...blank blank really >kills me? Sounds like, "Oh yah... that song just kills me" - ------------------------------------------- David Lewis - Graphic Designer dlewis@hfx.andara.com - ------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 17:00:57 EDT From: Mystchif1@aol.com Subject: MM: Updates!! Hey all! Just wanted to let you know that tons of people have written offering to tape Regarding Mary for me and you guys all rawk cuz' you're being so helpful. I have secured a copy of that, however, I still haven't found anyone who has Boxes, Up and Flying, or Words. So if ANYONE has em', PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE e- mail me and we'll work something out. I also posted the picture of myself with Patty on my web page so if anyone wants to check out my glory, you can do so here: www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Amphitheatre/5828 And then click on the thing for Patty boots. I would put the whole addy there but I can't get to it cuz' Geocites has all those damn pop-ups that are basically making my life miserable.....:( Also, I plan on setting up a seperate account for everyone who wants the tape. I'll let you know when I do so! Still waiting on those three songs....... Take care, Jen ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 17:02:03 -0400 From: dana Subject: MM: MM-stopped in my tracks- to music store Hi Larry- Welcome- Well, I was driving one Sunday and listening to Public Radio several years ago when October Project was being interviewed and played-I loved them automatically and was ready for someone new musically. When I got off the Parkway, I saw a music store in a little shopping center and beelined right in there while I still had the group on my mind and they had it! Never did that before just from one listen. Actually tho, that is also how I found out the Indigo Girls had a new album out from a song of theirs I didn't know on the radio. Again, straight to the music store for Swamp Ophelia! Dar Williams is a singer- songwriter who I just happened to see last week along with the Nields and she was wonderful in concert! [As were the Nields!} She is a little thing with so much energy - You could get The Honesty Room or Mortal City- I like her new album also- The End Of The Summer. She tells stories with her lyrics and is humerous as well. I can relate to her songs as you mentioned, even if the situation hasn't been my own life experience. If you get the chance to catch her in concert, don't miss it! I don't know if she has a connection to Patty, but being originally a New England based singer, I would think they know each other- they both have been playing around here for a few years now. Christine Lavin, Lucy Kaplansky and Cheryl Wheeler are also wonderful singersongwriters - if you like one, you would like them all. Lately, I can't seem to get off of Patty tho- 2 months straight now! I do listen to others, but go back to her. These concert tapes... Dana ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 20:08:39 EDT From: CornflkGl@aol.com Subject: MM: New songs in Lyrics Archive Hi everybody :) Just announcing there are now 7 more songs in the lyrics archive... Let Your Freedom Ring Silver Bell Under These Clouds The Gate You Decided Bubba's Sulky Lounge Stolen Car ( the Bruce Springsteen song ) ALL are thanks to Jen ( Mystchif1@aol.com ) , who sent me a wonderful tape with tons of rarities. Give her a hand, will ya ? :) And go check out the new songs ! http://www.geocities.com/~cornflake_girl/patty.html Now pop-up free ! :) Rachel :D <---- who always seems a little TOO happy in email, don't you think ? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 18:53:18 -0700 From: "Allan M. Ayres" Subject: MM: patty poster is gone :-( Sorry everybody, someone has claimed the Patty poster mentioned hereabouts on Saturday. :-( Thanks for all the email! Here's hoping that everybody who wants a poster manages to find one! (It strikes me that A&M might be willing to send posters out by mail, since they're promo materials and all.... Who knows? Might be worth a try.) - --Allan ~~~~~~~~ Allan M. Ayres emdash@creative.net http://www.stanford.edu/~ayres ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 21:39:37 -0400 From: podkayne@bennington.edu Subject: Re: MM: MM-stopped in my tracks- to music store Actually, Dar originally hails from the suburbs of New York City; she's from a little town called Chappaqua which is in Westchester County, north of the Big Apple. But she lives somewhere in western Mass now. If you wanted to buy a Dar album (which would definitely be a good thing) I'd recommend Mortal City. It has both "As Cool As I Am" and "The Ocean", both have gotten some play on Public Radio and its just a funny, sweet, wonderfully written album. The Honesty Room is her first album and is much folkier, but, although there are a lot of beautiful songs, it's just not as strong an album. End of the Summer is her newest, and the most (over) produced to date, which I don't like very much although most of my friends love it. I'm new to the list, and I'm not sure how Dar came up, but I can think of one connection between Patty and Dar, besides Lilith and New England. I saw Ellis Paul open for Dar a few years ago. Patty sang backing vocals on his two albums Stories and A Carnival of Voices and I've heard that Dar will be the backup for his new CD coming out this fall. BTW, both of his albums are AMAZING, and I would recommend Carnival to all who love folky singer-songwriters. Actually, that was the album that introduced me to Patty. . . . Stephanie dana wrote: > Hi Larry- > Welcome- Well, I was driving one Sunday and listening to Public Radio > several years ago when October Project was being interviewed and > played-I loved them automatically and was ready for someone new > musically. When I got off the Parkway, I saw a music store in a > little > shopping center and beelined right in there while I still had the > group > on my mind and they had it! Never did that before just from one > listen. > Actually tho, that is also how I found out the Indigo Girls had a new > album out from a song of theirs I didn't know on the radio. Again, > straight to the music store for Swamp Ophelia! > Dar Williams is a singer- songwriter who I just happened to see last > week along with the Nields and she was wonderful in concert! [As were > the Nields!} She is a little thing with so much energy - You could get > > The Honesty Room or Mortal City- I like her new album also- The End Of > > The Summer. She tells stories with her lyrics and is humerous as well. > I > can relate to her songs as you mentioned, even if the situation hasn't > > been my own life experience. If you get the chance to catch her in > concert, don't miss it! I don't know if she has a connection to Patty, > > but being originally a New England based singer, I would think they > know each other- they both have been playing around here for a few > years > now. Christine Lavin, Lucy Kaplansky and Cheryl Wheeler are also > wonderful singersongwriters - if you like one, you would like them > all. > Lately, I can't seem to get off of Patty tho- 2 months straight now! I > > do listen to others, but go back to her. These concert tapes... > Dana ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 23:09:18 EDT From: Mystchif1@aol.com Subject: MM: One more song Hey all! Okay, I feel like posting to this list has become some sort of sick new hobby or something, anyone sick of seeing my name yet? I am.... Anyhoo, Rachel brought to my attention a song from the Newton Boys soundtrack to add to Rarities. Anyone have an info or a copy? Let me know and thanks again, Jen ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 21:54:33 -0700 From: "Victoria Chenevey" Subject: MM: Patty on KSCA I first heard ELB on KSCA, and it was not on that great station's last day. It was sometime in 1996, I think. They played it even before we all knew they were going off the air. I immediately went out and found LWG, and have been playing it ever since. Love FR, too. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 01:14:48 EDT From: ASIS143@aol.com Subject: MM: a patty guitar tab page?? hey everyone... i was at the lyric archive tonight and i was thinking that a guitar tab page might be a cool thing to do... any opinions? i would gladly run it if people can contribute tabs....i know that we already have a few, and thats a start, so what do ya think?? kate http://members.tripod.com/~Lifey/index.html my concert etiquette page http://members.tripod.com/~Lifey/concert.html ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V2 #212 *********************************