From: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org (mad-mission-digest) To: mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Subject: mad-mission-digest V2 #203 Reply-To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sender: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * If you wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * mad-mission-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Patty's tour dates, go to: * http://www.spectra.net/~ducksoup/pattyg/patttyg.htm * OR * go to http://www.amrecords.com * then click "tour" and fill in the blanks :) * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V2 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. mad-mission-digest Monday, July 20 1998 Volume 02 : Number 203 Today's Subjects: ----------------- MM: Upcoming Live Interview/Performance on KCRW [deanorez@juno.com (G Per] MM: The latest debate ["Perlman, Judith" ] Re: MM: Patty free show in Detroit??? [DanS ] MM: Patty in St. Louis ["Joseph C. Borah" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 17:35:27 -0700 From: deanorez@juno.com (G Perez) Subject: MM: Upcoming Live Interview/Performance on KCRW Upcoming live interview/performances on KCRW 89.9FM's "Morning Becomes Eclectic" with Nic Harcourt (all times Pacific): 7/20 - Nina Hagen 11:00AM 7/21 - Lisa Germano 11:00AM 7/22 - Phil Jones 11:00AM 7/23 - ** Patty Griffin 11:00AM 7/24 - Sean Lennon 11:00AM KCRW broadcasts out of Santa Monica, CA but you can tune in live online at . RealAudio ___ Gerard _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 15:35:08 -0400 From: "Perlman, Judith" Subject: MM: The latest debate I do understand the concept of beating a dead horse, but since I was the one who posted the original question about high school, I want to respond. I asked about the line "I hated every day of high school" because it's a line that resonates so deeply with me - from the first time I heard it, Patty singing it live acoustic -- to now, after hearing it approx. 30 times. It makes me laugh and cry, because it's so true for me. It also makes me feel better, to know that someone I admire felt the same way, and that Patty expresses it so well, musically and lyrically. The whole package in fact. So I asked if anyone here felt the same way. Now, if I were a "me" person, I would not have asked about how other people felt; I would simply have stated, "Oh, man, did I ever feel like that myself." Or "Look at me, I'm just like Patty." But I asked what I did because I wanted to share my thoughts and feelings, and learn other people's. And I wanted to know how others coped with that feeling. In fact, I thought that's what this list is about - sharing our thoughts, opinions, and feelings about Patty's music. Jeanne, perhaps there's a line or several lines or themes in her songs that resonate with you. If so, I'd like to hear about it. As for "glory days," I said I hated it, ipso facto, those were not my glory days. Not unless I'm a very sick masochist. Now, as for your interpretation of "Tony," it just proves the brilliance of the song. It's got many layers of meaning to it. I interpret one of them as saying "If I weren't so miserable" (not glorious, not wonderful), "I would've seen there was someone just like me, also miserable. And maybe I could've helped him." That's a far cry from Patty (the narrator, for simplicity's sake, let's call her Patty) meaning "If I hadn't been such a "me" person, Tony might not have killed himself." Just because I, or others on this list, interpret the song in different ways, doesn't mean we "don't understand the song" period. I think we all get that it is about a gay boy in high school, whom the narrator sits behind but is unaware of, who later kills himself because he's gay and lost all hope in his life. I think there are many other meanings, too. And I'd like to discuss them, but this posting isn't the place. I'm curious to know why, in your post, you say it's ok to have opinions about FR compared to LWG, and about which songs they like or hate, "These are opinions that everyone should have if they have half a brain." But discussing the meaning of the song, or how it relates to you personally is off-limits? To solicit other people's feelings and opinions is off-limits? Another point I feel compelled to make is this: how do you know I'm a "me" person? Maybe I'm just the opposite. Maybe I did and do reach out to others. Maybe people who have been miserable can more easily relate to people who are miserable for other reasons. It's called "empathy." Finally, I do take offense at people telling me to stop writing something. Last I heard, the Bill of Rights is still going strong. I know this is a very long post, but your post, Jeanne, and others, raised many issues, and I am a thorough person. Hope that's not too much solipsistic information for you. That's all, folks. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 18:39:53 -0400 From: DanS Subject: Re: MM: Patty free show in Detroit??? At 03:55 PM 7/17/97 -0400, Tim Burke wrote: >Well not to start rumors but I happened to be listening to the River today >(at work no less, and I work at a radio station... terrible huh) and the >announcer alluded to Patty possibly coming back to 'make good on missing >out on RiverFest...' ... i won't be at PlantHooplaFest or whatever it's >called, heck the Planet doesn't come in down here and it's too expensive >anyway. I can't really follow what this is all about - did Patty cancel her scheduled appearance at Riverfest? Is she now scheduled to appear at a Planet Hoopla Fest? If so it makes sense, since Ann Delisi is now Music Director at Planet 96.3. Ann WAS the Music Director at The River and a driving force in the sound of the station from its conception until a few weeks ago, when she left to go to Planet. Ann is a big Patty fan, and was the person responsible for giving Patty tons of exposure in Detroit through airplay and interviews on The River, and on her show "Backstage Pass" on Detroit's PBS TV station. Detroit became one of Patty's most successful markets as a result. With Ann moving onto The Planet, I'm sure Patty will follow and become involved in that station's sound and festivals as well. When is this Planet Hoopla Fest? Dan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 11:00:06 -0500 From: "Joseph C. Borah" Subject: MM: Patty in St. Louis Patty will be appearing in St. Louis at Blueberry Hill in The Duck Room on Saturday, July 25th. It's a benefit gig for the Marine Corps Toys for Tots campaign. Also performing are Sister 7, New World Spirits, Daisy Chain and O'T Matthew. Show starts a 7:00 P.M., cover is $5.00 if you bring a new toy and $10.00 if you don't. See ya there! Joe ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V2 #203 *********************************