From: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org (mad-mission-digest) To: mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Subject: mad-mission-digest V2 #192 Reply-To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sender: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * If you wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * mad-mission-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Patty's tour dates, go to: * http://www.spectra.net/~ducksoup/pattyg/patttour.htm * OR * go to http://www.amrecords.com/road/index.html * and fill in the blanks :) * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V2 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. mad-mission-digest Wednesday, July 8 1998 Volume 02 : Number 192 Today's Subjects: ----------------- MM: Related to Patty and her upcoming Philly concert [Charl Kroeger ] MM: more Philly info [Gidget10@aol.com] MM: Patty LIVE: V2 #191 [PeaceLoveGrace@webtv.net (Adam Robinson)] MM: An cool new resource & you're invited to use it! [ABershaw@aol.com] MM: Flames and Flaming Red. [Rongrittz@aol.com] MM: Re: Flames and Flaming Red. ["Sara" ] MM: Patty in Philly on Sunday [kangamat@eclipse.net] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 19:56:50 +0000 From: Charl Kroeger Subject: MM: Related to Patty and her upcoming Philly concert To all you great Patty fans out there from some other fans....: this is about one of the singers that is due to perform with Patty on the weekend. Her name is Mary Arden Collins and she is in fact also a Patty fan. The news is that we have just launched a new website dedicated to her and her music.... it is called "Motivate" after the first single on her self-titled debut album. You can find out everything about Mary and her career, as well as a couple of picture galleries at http://www.maryardencollins.com ...we will in the near future be running a monthly draw to win a CD for all those who join up with the mailing list. If it's OK with you all I'll let you know when the mailing list is up and running. We will also in the future be putting up some sound bytes for ya'll to hear how great Mary is, if you don't have the chance to see her in Philly! In the interim, check it out and if you have any comments or suggestions, let me know. Check out Mary and her music. If you like Patty's music, you'll love Mary! Look forward to hearing from you Regards Charl Kroeger designck@cnct.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 20:43:53 EDT From: CornflkGl@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: The album...revisted In a message dated 7/7/98 19:35:07, you wrote: <> Patty herself is the only thing I like about the album version of Tony. Then again, apparently most people hate Peter Pan, and it's my favorite, so.. go figure. Rachel :D ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 20:43:55 -4000 From: "Charlie Sweeney" Subject: MM: patty in Philly Hi, Patty will be playing the WXPN singer/songwriter weekend at Penn's landing in Philadelphia. It is on Columbus Blvd, right next to the Delaware River south of the Ben Franklin Bridge. To get there, use i 95 and get off at Columbus Blvd. Patty goes on at 3:55 PM. Mary Arden Collins, from Delaware and a member of the mad-mission list goes on at 3 PM to start the show. After Patty , Moxy Fruvous, James Mc Murtry. And Francis Dunnery, Gates open at 1PM, seating is on concrete steps, so bring a padded cushion, seating is first come, first serve. Admission is $5, Parking is between $5 and $10 and is plentiful. WXPN members have access to all day refreshments and a meet and greet after the set. Basic membership is $50, and is available by Creditcard on the site. No coolers allowed. The venue is on the river with boats going by in the background. It tends to get hot, so wear a hat to keep from frying your brain. Sunscreen is a must. Wear comfy shoes-you may have to walk some. Shade is available (limited) so get there early. Currently there are 5 mad-mishers attending, 3 believers (Susan Werner list) 3 Fumblers (Sarah McLachlan list) and a Joni-phile or two. I'll be wearing a Susan Werner t-shirt (white with eyes on the back) and would love to meet some of you. E-mail me privately, and I'll see if I can set up a meeting place. Charlie Sweeney (=}===# Virtual Guitarist-Something Black charlies@voicenet.com http://www.voicenet.com/~charlies "Caught in my struggle for higher achievement and my search for love, that don't seem to cease" ...Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 22:18:32 EDT From: Gidget10@aol.com Subject: MM: more Philly info Penn's Landing is located on Columbus Boulevard between Lombard and Market Streets. From I-95 use exit 16 for Columbus Boulevard/Washington Street and turn left onto Columbus. For more info check out www.pennslandingcorp.com or call (215) 922-2386. For WXPN call (800) 565-WXPN. Tickets are $5 at the door. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 19:51:03 -0700 (PDT) From: PeaceLoveGrace@webtv.net (Adam Robinson) Subject: MM: Patty LIVE: V2 #191 Dumb question, but is Patty selling t-shirts at her shows during this tour? I just wondered how much they cost and that sort of thing. She's playing here in Portland Oregon a week from today at the Roseland Theater!!! Anyone else gonna be there? PeaceLove&Grace, +m ~ : ) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 23:07:06 EDT From: ABershaw@aol.com Subject: MM: An cool new resource & you're invited to use it! Hi Ectophiles & Mad Missionaries, I sent this to the Jewel lists earlier today, but many of you will also find this a helpful resource this summer. Read on. Alan Hi all, I wanted to tell everyone about a very cool project that Duff & Eric(Crashboy) have been working on. It's a new website that is dedicated to helping EDAs know where all the various LRT artists are playing & tour dates in general for these artists. Point your browsers to: http://thespis.com/crashboy/EDArtists/EDArtists.htm According to the site itself, the goal of this site is: "Through the Everyday Angels (EDA) mailing list, we have introduced each other to a plethora of new artists. This page centers on those up and coming artists who have benefitted and are still benefitting from EDA support, those who have made a difference in EDA lives, or both." You'll find LRT info, touring info & link info for (in alphabetical order): Cindy Lee Berryhill, Heidi Boh, Jenny Bruce, Mary Dolan ,Randi Driscoll, Patty Griffin, Emm Gryner, Joy Eden Harrison, Elizabeth Hummel, Tara MacLean, Holly McNarland, Dayna Manning , Gregory Page , Steve Poltz, Lisa Sanders, & Sarah Slean, with more to be added as time goes on. The coolest part of this site, IMO, is that theres a map of North America divided up into regions. You can simply click on your region & it'll tell you all the interesting gigs (by those artists) coming up in your region. :-) Please take advantage of this resource. It'll definately help connect you up to some great shows this summer. Also if you have additional info that should be included, contact Duff at TJtalken@aol.com & she'll get on it. Visit this site & support these artists. There's a LOT more going on than Jewel! Best wishes, MrBB ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 00:02:40 EDT From: Rongrittz@aol.com Subject: MM: Flames and Flaming Red. Jason writes: << Well, lets see who "flames" me for my opinions... >> OK, but Your Honor, he opened the door. (BTW, years of participating in Mailing Lists and Newsgroups has taught me that someone who says "Let's see who flames me" can't WAIT to get flamed). But, on to the heart of the matter, that is, "solo" Patty vs. "band" Patty. It all boils down to what catches your ear first. In my case, the only time I ever heard "Tony" prior to the CD coming out was on a medium-quality bootleg tape (I'd never heard her perform it live, only ever having seen her once). So, having practically no point of reference, I fell in love with the CD version . .. its power, its intensity, the way (as Dave said) the instrumentation drops out over the "little faggot" line during the last chorus. THEN, going back to the bootleg, I listened to the song again and it sounded, well, too "stripped-down." So, bottom line, the CD version was the "definitive" version in my mind, and henceforth, the one I like best. Flip side of the same coin: "Goodbye." I've heard the acoustic version a bajillion times on a crystal-clear bootleg I have of her show at the Turning Point in Piermont, N.Y, last May. In fact, the song made me cry when I first heard her do it (I was at the show). So, henceforth (when's the last time you saw that word TWICE in one post, eh?), when the CD came out, I heard it with all the percussion and stuff, miles away from its initial simplicity and beauty, and I sad something that sounded kinda sorta like "Ewwwww." I still don't like it on the CD, and probably never will, at least compared to the solo version. It's like my history with Shawn Colvin, pre-"Steady On." Watching her play coffeehouses in Greenwich Village in the mid/late-80's, I'd grown to love the solo versions of songs like "Shotgun Down the Avalanche," "Ricochet in Time," "Another Long One," etc. So, imagine my anguish when "Steady On" came out and it sounded over-produced and phony. I hated it, and pretty much still do, because the DEFINITIVE versions of those songs, in my mind, were acoustic. And that's why "Live '88" is such a favorite of mine . . . it's all the songs from "Steady On," essentially done in their "original" versions. So does that mean that I only like solo acoustic Shawn? Hell no. I've never heard the songs from "A Few Small Repairs" done solo, but I can imagine that they'd lose something compared to what are now the "definitive" versions, i.e., those on the CD. Am I making sense here? But I have to take sides on this "He said, no, he said" thing. Read the posts again. Jason said that he thinks LWG is "truer to her live show." Well, yes, it's truer to her SOLO live show. But someone who, for example, may just be getting into Patty for the first time NOW, and seeing her live shows for the first time NOW, well, they might say that "Flaming Red" is ABSOLUTELY true to her live show . . . that is, her live show NOW. While that same person may listen to "LWG" and say that it's not true at ALL to her live show. So it's all a matter of context . . . and timing . . . and when the performer enters your life. So Jason's absolutely entitled to say he likes the production of the first CD better than the second. He's absolutely entitled to say that the production of "Flaming Red" is not to his liking. But until he's actually SEEN her band show, it absolutely IS a blanket statement to say he likes her acoustic show better. Better than what? Something he's never seen? You see, he has no point of reference. But I guess when the only tool you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. 'Nuff said. Ron ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 00:30:54 -0400 From: "Sara" Subject: MM: Re: Flames and Flaming Red. I seriously think that all of this bickering needs to stop now. I have been a part of this list practically since when it started and I don't think Patty is sitting at home writing music so that we can all go and kill each other over it. Why doesn't everyone just get over themselves and try to get along. Sara ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 00:46:58 -0400 From: kangamat@eclipse.net Subject: MM: Patty in Philly on Sunday Patty's performance at WXPNs singer/songwiter festival will be on Sunday, July 12th at Penn's Landing on the Deleware River. Patty is on second on Sunday, after Mary Arden Collins and before James McMurtry, Moxy Fruvous, and Frances Dunnery. It is the third and final day of the weekend-long festival. The doors open at 1pm for Sunday's show, and the performances start at 3pm. There is only one stage. Admission is $5 for adults and $2 for kids under 12 (not including parking, as there is still no public transportation in Philly). No outside food or beverages are allowed inside the ampitheatre. Bring something soft to sit on such as a cushion or blanket - chairs are not allowed, and the concrete steps hurt your butt after a few hours. Sunglasses/sunscreen is recommended too. If anyone is a member of WXPN, there will be a member's only area providing free refreshments and a "meet-and-greet" area for the artists - they are usually signing autographs there. For more information, check out WXPN's site at http://www.xpn.org or call WXPN at 1-800-565-WXPN or Penn's Landing at 215-922-2386. Hope to see you there. - -Matt ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V2 #192 *********************************