From: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org (mad-mission-digest) To: mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Subject: mad-mission-digest V2 #184 Reply-To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sender: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * If you wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * mad-mission-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Patty's tour dates, go to: * http://www.spectra.net/~ducksoup/pattyg/patttour.htm * OR * go to http://www.amrecords.com/road/index.html * and fill in the blanks :) * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V2 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. mad-mission-digest Wednesday, July 1 1998 Volume 02 : Number 184 Today's Subjects: ----------------- MM: Tony on the radio ["Bill Diekmann" ] MM: Re: Tony on the radio ["Kevin B. Pease" ] Re: MM: The all powerful media ["Stephen V. Gilmore" ] MM: Patty ["Stephen V. Gilmore" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 01:02:09 -0500 From: "Bill Diekmann" Subject: MM: Tony on the radio Call me a little paranoid buttttttttttttt, I would imagine a lot of the clueless in the radio business would be a little uncomfortable with putting Tony on their airwaves. With the words Fag and Faggots said more than once wellllllll (upcoming sarcasm) IT COULD TURN US ALL!!!! Heck, one listen and we could all have strange thoughts we've never experienced before. Our children would throw down their schoolbooks and start having same-sex relations right on the classroom floor. Sorry, but you get my point. Another reason for their conservative concern would be the suicidal content. Hell, it might cause some kid to walk into school, shoot his classmates and kill himself. I don't know, maybe I'm wrong, but I think that awesome song would make some folks nervous. (that last line was not sarcastic) Bill ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 10:33:11 -0400 From: "Kevin B. Pease" Subject: MM: Re: Tony on the radio This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_007A_01BDA412.7B53FBB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>Bill Diekmann writes: >With the words Fag and Faggots said more than once >wellllllll (upcoming sarcasm) IT COULD TURN US ALL!!!! Heck, one listen >and we could all have strange thoughts we've never experienced before. Our >children would throw down their schoolbooks and start having same-sex >relations right on the classroom floor. Sorry, but you get my point. Actually, I'd have a higher expectation that gay-rights groups (? I don't know if that's the 'polite' term? No offense intended if it's not, to anybody who might be offended) might get all up in arms about having "fag" and "faggot" played over the air waves, as it's not generally considered the most endearing name on the planet. Most people, conservative or liberal, aren't going to hear the word "fag" and go... "Hey, that sounds like fun! Let's go!" I'd actually expect that the real anti-homosexuality conservatives might be a little pleased to hear "fag" and "faggot" played on the radio... it might make them feel good about themselves. Kevin - ---------- Kevin Pease kbpease@boston.crosswinds.net (ICQ UIN: 3106063) http://www.wpi.edu/~kestrel "And as I watch the drops of rain weave their weary paths and die, I know that I am like the rain, there but for the grace of you go I..." --(Paul Simon)-- - ------=_NextPart_000_007A_01BDA412.7B53FBB0 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; name="Kevin B Pease.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Kevin B Pease.vcf" BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Pease;Kevin;B FN:Kevin B Pease ORG:Clariion Business Systems;Tools Engineering TITLE:Software Engineer TEL;WORK;VOICE:508-480-7568 TEL;HOME;VOICE:508-832-8556 TEL;CELL;VOICE: TEL;PAGER;VOICE: TEL;WORK;FAX: TEL;HOME;FAX: ADR;WORK:;C112;Coslin Drive;Southboro;MA;01701;USA LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:C112=3D0D=3D0ACoslin = Drive=3D0D=3D0ASouthboro, MA 01701=3D0D=3D0AUSA ADR;HOME:;;407 West Main Street;Millbury;MA;01527;USA LABEL;HOME;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:407 West Main = Street=3D0D=3D0AMillbury, MA 01527=3D0D=3D0AUSA URL:http://www.wpi.edu/~kestrel URL:http://www.clariion.com EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:kbpease@boston.crosswinds.net EMAIL;INTERNET:kestrel@wpi.edu EMAIL;INTERNET:kpease@clariion.com REV:19980630T143310Z END:VCARD - ------=_NextPart_000_007A_01BDA412.7B53FBB0-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 11:01:52 -0700 From: Elaine Bean Subject: Re: MM: Tony on the radio Bill Diekmann wrote: > but I think that awesome song > would make some folks nervous. (that last line was not sarcastic) > Bill - ----------------------------------------- I tend to agree somewhat with what you say, and I think the message and the touching poignancy of the song might be lost on a lot of people, or so very misinterpreted by a lot of clueless people out there. Tony is about the lonliness and desperation a young person may feel in coming to terms with his/her sexuality, and the realization that because of his/her sexual preference society, views him as a worthless and twisted individual. It's a sad, sad thing that this happens, but the suicide rate among gay youths is TOO high. I think some may think that Tony is a disparaging song about gay youth, when obviously the writer of the song is using sarcasm to make her point about the senselessness of suicide and the hoplessness some gay youth feel, which ends sometimes in tragedy, and will continue I'm sure, as long as society allows negative, disparaging, anti-gay views to permeate. Elaine ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 14:00:08 -0400 (EDT) From: "Stephen V. Gilmore" Subject: Re: MM: The all powerful media Try a public radio station that specializes in acoustic/fold/world, etc. Or look for a station that carries David Dye's World Cafe. Both venues respect your intelligence by airing only QUALITY music. No Backstreet Boys here--Patty's musical "neighbors" will be her peers in the area of music quality. On Mon, 29 Jun 1998 JohnRN23@aol.com wrote: > So, > Now that Patty is on the radio all the time... at least on two stations in > Detroit with her radio friendly song, what will be her next radio song? I am > imagining Tony, mostly because it is a "something's wrong with the world" > song, which is always catchy, but I am hoping it doesn't become the next > "Runaway Train". I certainly don't want the message getting lost and I just > don't want to hear her on pop stations following up the Backstreet Boyz. Ugh, > I can really get to hating the radio! > :-) John > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 13:57:20 -0700 (PDT) From: shaman Subject: MM: Pattysite Hey everyone - I have been a sub to this list for a while now, but I haven't posted anything until now. First of all, I would like to say thanks to everyone who posts to this list for the quality and intelligence of the posts. They are both rare commodities these days. Secondly, I just wanted to let everyone know - since I have gotten tired of waiting in vain for pattygriffin.com to appear, I have put up my own PG site. The URL is http://members.xoom.com/theshaman/index.html I just started working on it this morning so a lot of the links aren't there yet, but I'll get there... I would really appreciate it if you all could take a look and let me know if you have any suggestions for content or links or whatever. Also, if anybody has any interesting anything that they would like to get up on the site - please let me know, I would be happy to do it for you!!Thanks!! Mark _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 20:08:38 -0400 (EDT) From: "Stephen V. Gilmore" Subject: MM: Patty You may want to expel me from being a subscriber, but I had never heard "Tony"--until tonight. About an hour ago, David Dye played a song about 20 minutes into the first hour of "World Cafe" which had the sound of another excellent work by a female singer-songwriter. I wondered "Gosh, who's that? Sounds like Dar to me." Was surprised to learn it was the one and only "Tony" performed by the one and only Patty. Incidentally, bug David (worldcafe@pobox.upenn.edu) to get him to have Patty as a guest on the Cafe. 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