From: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org (mad-mission-digest) To: mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Subject: mad-mission-digest V2 #138 Reply-To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sender: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * If you wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * mad-mission-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Patty's tour dates, go to: * http://www.spectra.net/~ducksoup/pattyg/patttour.htm * OR * go to http://www.amrecords.com/road/index.html * and fill in the blanks :) * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V2 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. mad-mission-digest Wednesday, May 20 1998 Volume 02 : Number 138 Today's Subjects: ----------------- MM: Re: Patty's show at the troubadour ["Victoria Chenevey" ] MM: Patty last night at the troubador [Heidi ] MM: DAT of DATTroubadour [plpalmer@ix.netcom.com] Re: MM: Patty last night at the troubador [David Doody ] MM: Mercury Lounge -- How disturbing? [Jason Kreuter ] MM: No Patty: Wilcox ["LB" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 00:21:39 -0700 From: "Victoria Chenevey" Subject: MM: Re: Patty's show at the troubadour I have only 2 things to say about tonight's show at the troubadour: Thank you Heidi for having extra tix.... Only one word really can describe the experience, acoutisc and band, AWESOME! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 06:28:45 -0700 From: "Larry G." Subject: MM: The Power and The Glory -- Part 1 Somewhere between 200 and 300 people were blessed to be bathed in a power moment of rock music history last night at the Troubadour in L.A. (IMHHO, of course!) Every misher deserves a full review of this show, and I will give one over the course of this week when I can steal the time. (I know others of our ranks were there and will give their reports, too.) For now, I will just say that Patty and her band gave a lesson in the sublime power of rock at its absolute best. It was a show I'll certainly treasure as one of the very, very best I've ever been at, and I've been at my share of legendary and wonderful shows. What a blessing, what a gift! I'll post much more later on. Loveya, Love Patty, Love the band! - -=-Larry-=- ------------------------------ Date: 19 May 98 08:50:02 -0800 From: Robin Hall Subject: MM: Patty at the Troub I have to second (and third) what other posters have said about Patty's show at the Troubador last night. It was one of the best shows I've ever seen, and I've seen a lot of shows. To see and hear Patty Griffin give so much of herself so completely, at the deepest level, despite the fact that she was obviously very sick, was spine chilling and inspiring. Robin Hall ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 12:42:31 -0700 From: Heidi Subject: MM: Patty last night at the troubador Last night was great. Patty and the band had colds but they played their hearts out. I think alot of Patty LWG fans weren't to thrilled with the new sound, they felt it was overpowering, but I think that if the sound man was to turn up Patty a little more and get a handle on the band's volume, it will rock. I had a great time because I was familiar with the songs and I was right at the front of the stage so I could see everything. Patty 's cute. A little fireball. The band was excellent. Very talented musicians, especially her lead guitar player. The set consisted of the following: Just her and her acoustic opened with Sweet Lorraine and Poor Man's House. Then the band came out, they played, Goodbye Change Tony (totally rocked!) Christina (it was kinda of hard to hear her vocals on that one) Blue Sky (same problem, soundman needs to work that out) Daddy Go Now Flaming Red (She and the band kicked butt on that one and they really looked like they enjoyed playing it) Wiggly Fingers One Big Love (Great song, definitely a highlight of the evening, she had a huge smile on her face while they played that song) Every Little Bit (I think I still like the original, acoustic only version better) Mary (she said that song was inspired by her grandmother, she looked very moved playing that song) Then they came back for an encore, just her and her lead guitar player. He played acoustic while she sang Let Him Fly. It was nice, she was tired and sick so they didn't play anymore. I did hear a couple of guys though when she walked off the stage after playing let him fly say "now that's the Patty we like". I guess they didn't enjoy the show. Oh well I did. And I know of a few other people that I met from the list last night that enjoyed it too! (HI Adrienne, Vickie, Larry, Josh and Peter. It was nice to meet all of you! I got to talk to her briefly afterwards and got her autograph. She was sweet but I could tell she wasn't feeling very well. Anyways, that was that. It looks like Patty Griffin is well on her way to being a huge success, (although she already is one in my book!). Their were alot of industry people there and someone was filming some serious video so maybe we'll get to see a video when the album comes out. I'm tired but had a great time last night. Of course this is all just my own opinion and you know what they say........:-) Heidi ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 12:51:00 -0700 From: plpalmer@ix.netcom.com Subject: MM: DAT of DATTroubadour Got a great copy of Patty's show at the Troubadour last night. I think it's about time this list did a tape tree. There are points on the tape where the band drowns Patty out, but I think it was worse live than on the tape. Set list: TROUBADOUR HOLLYWOOD, CA 5-18-98 70' Sweet Lorraine / Poor Man's House / Goodbye / Change / Tony / Christina / Blue Sky / Big Daddy / Go Now / Flaming Red / Wiggly Fingers / One Big Love / Every Little Bit / Mary / Let Him Fly I guess the best way to start this is for everyone who can copy DAT to analog should contact me so I can get an idea of how many Branches there will be on this tree. Peter ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 13:31:38 -0700 (PDT) From: David Doody Subject: Re: MM: Patty last night at the troubador On Tue, 19 May 1998, Heidi wrote: > ...but I think that if the sound man was to turn up Patty a little more > and get a handle on the band's volume, it will rock. Is it bothering anyone else that this seems to be a consistent complaint from almost everyone, and yet nothing's changing?? (I know, not everyone's complaining...but those who do cite this as a *major* annoyance.) Is anyone familiar enough with Patty's sound crew to maybe give them some constructive criticism at an upcoming gig? (or are any of them lurking here?) The only way anything's gonna change for the better is to let someone know that it's not working. I hope they get it under control by the time she makes it to Seattle. :) Dave ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 14:19:31 -0700 (PDT) From: hooligan Subject: MM: Mercury Lounge setlist 14 May 1998 1. Sweet Lorraine 2. Poor Man's House 3. Goodbye 4. Change 5. Tony 6. Christina 7. Blue Sky 8. Big Daddy 9. Go Now 10. Flaming Red 11. Wiggley Fingers 12. One Big Love 13. Every Little Bit 14. Mary encore. Let Him Fly basically they played all of FR with the exception of Carry Me and Peter Pan. Sweet Lorraine + Poor Man's House were Patty solo; the encore was Patty with an accompanying guitarist and all others were with the band. Reviews were already posted, so I'll spare you the gory details ;) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 10:20:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Jason Kreuter Subject: MM: Mercury Lounge -- How disturbing? Hi, I DID NOT get to the Mercury show, I missed it by a 7 hours due to airline flight schedules! I was very upset at the time, but, after reading the reviews of the show, I am glad I missed it in some ways. I was not aware that she was adding a band. I think this is awfull (though I still as yet to hear the band). I first heard patty at a show I did not even go to tape her specifically, but that tape has become one of my most favorite tapes. I remember that the moment she started singing Sweet Lorraine I was "knocked off my feet" at how INCREDIBLE her sound is. It was the accoustic solo that brought the raw power of her voice and her music to the forefront. While I do understand that she is getting older, I think her reputation is growing steadily and to add a silly band just in hopes of "making it big faster" is something that may turn her current fans away. I think her style is very reminiscent of Bonnie Raitt, and she only made it "BIG" after many years of solid records and touring in the industry. In fact, her earlier recordings are MUCH better than her pop stuff of the past 10 or so years. Anyway, just my $.02... Jason p.s. Katell Keineg, what kind of sound does she have? After reading the last digest I am interested in going to tape her... ******************************************************************* Jason Kreuter Graduate Student National Library of Medicine Fellow Biomedical Engineering - Division of Medical Informatics Duke University ******************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: 19 May 98 15:25:14 -0800 From: Robin Hall Subject: RE: MM: Mercury Lounge -- How disturbing? Everyone's entitled to their own opinion regarding Patty use of a band, but I don't think it has anything to do with wanting to make it big fast. Patty Griffin is a poster child for artistic integrity. Also, read the interviews with her from two years ago. Even then, she was talking about how she was a rock chick at heart. And remember, they booed Dylan at Newport when he plugged in... Jason Kreuter wrote: >Hi, > >I DID NOT get to the Mercury show, I missed it by a 7 hours due to airline >flight schedules! I was very upset at the time, but, after reading the >reviews of the show, I am glad I missed it in some ways. > >I was not aware that she was adding a band. I think this is awfull >(though I still as yet to hear the band). I first heard patty at a show I >did not even go to tape her specifically, but that tape has become one of >my most favorite tapes. I remember that the moment she started singing >Sweet Lorraine I was "knocked off my feet" at how INCREDIBLE her sound is. >It was the accoustic solo that brought the raw power of her voice and her >music to the forefront. > >While I do understand that she is getting older, I think her reputation is >growing steadily and to add a silly band just in hopes of "making it big >faster" is something that may turn her current fans away. I think her >style is very reminiscent of Bonnie Raitt, and she only made it "BIG" >after many years of solid records and touring in the industry. In fact, >her earlier recordings are MUCH better than her pop stuff of the past 10 >or so years. > >Anyway, just my $.02... > >Jason > >p.s. Katell Keineg, what kind of sound does she have? After reading the >last digest I am interested in going to tape her... > > >***************************************************************** >** >Jason Kreuter >Graduate Student >National Library of Medicine Fellow >Biomedical Engineering - Division of Medical Informatics >Duke University >***************************************************************** >** > > >RFC822 header >----------------------------------- > >Received: from siren.shore.net (207.244.124.5) by smtp.crewcuts.com > with SMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.2b4); Tue, 19 May 1998 18:22:47 +0000 >Received: from smoe.org [204.167.97.154] (root) > by siren.shore.net with esmtp (Exim) > id 0ybuWv-0001wY-00; Tue, 19 May 1998 18:06:42 -0400 >Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) > by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) with SMTP id RAA09192; > Tue, 19 May 1998 17:39:43 -0400 (EDT) >Received: by smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Tue, 19 May 1998 17:39:21 - -0400 >Received: (from majordom@localhost) > by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) id RAA08777 > for mad-mission-outgoing; Tue, 19 May 1998 17:33:35 -0400 (EDT) >Message-Id: <199805192133.RAA08777@smoe.org> >Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 10:20:34 -0400 (EDT) >From: Jason Kreuter >To: mad-mission@smoe.org >Subject: MM: Mercury Lounge -- How disturbing? >Sender: owner-mad-mission@smoe.org >Precedence: bulk > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 19:33:37 -0400 (EDT) From: "Stephen V. Gilmore" Subject: Re: MM: Mercury Lounge -- How disturbing? If you get the Public Radio program "World Cafe" in your area, give it a listen (website: www.pri.org/cafe will get you info on the program and a list of stations that carry it). Patty G's works have been featured (along with the works of such artists as Patti Larkin, Katell Keineg, Kate Campbell, Catie Curtis, Cheri Knight, Ani DiFranco, etc.--and those are just the WOMEN!) It's two hours long and is carried 5 times a week. You can e-mail the show at worldcafe@pobox.upenn.edu; they're good at responding to comments and suggestions. P.S. If you're able to hear the show, give a few bucks to the public radio station that carries it, to keep non-commercial outlets for innovative music like that of artists like the Griffin Girl going. On Tue, 19 May 1998, Jason Kreuter wrote: > Hi, > > I DID NOT get to the Mercury show, I missed it by a 7 hours due to airline > flight schedules! I was very upset at the time, but, after reading the > reviews of the show, I am glad I missed it in some ways. > > I was not aware that she was adding a band. I think this is awfull > (though I still as yet to hear the band). I first heard patty at a show I > did not even go to tape her specifically, but that tape has become one of > my most favorite tapes. I remember that the moment she started singing > Sweet Lorraine I was "knocked off my feet" at how INCREDIBLE her sound is. > It was the accoustic solo that brought the raw power of her voice and her > music to the forefront. > > While I do understand that she is getting older, I think her reputation is > growing steadily and to add a silly band just in hopes of "making it big > faster" is something that may turn her current fans away. I think her > style is very reminiscent of Bonnie Raitt, and she only made it "BIG" > after many years of solid records and touring in the industry. In fact, > her earlier recordings are MUCH better than her pop stuff of the past 10 > or so years. > > Anyway, just my $.02... > > Jason > > p.s. Katell Keineg, what kind of sound does she have? After reading the > last digest I am interested in going to tape her... > > > ******************************************************************* > Jason Kreuter > Graduate Student > National Library of Medicine Fellow > Biomedical Engineering - Division of Medical Informatics > Duke University > ******************************************************************* > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 20:06:24 -0400 From: Chris Kornmann Subject: MM: Joy Askew I know that people have mentioned other artists that they enjoy and I would like to take this opportunity to make a quick recommendation. Her name is Joy Askew and she is amazing! She has toured with Peter Gabriel (Paula Cole took over when she left), Joe Jackson and Laurie Anderson. Her music is remniscent of Peter Gabriel and Radiohead (to name a few) and her voice is a cross between Paula Cole, Sinead O'Connor and Sarah McLachlan all rolled into one...You gotta hear it to believe it! Some of you may have seen her on the Lilith Fair last year. For those that haven't, and live in NYC area, she is playing a couple of gigs in the coming weeks...she is definetly worth checking out and I think that you all would enjoy it...Quincy Jones was at her last gig and he was very impressed....Hope to see you there! Joy Askew - Acoustic Friday, May 22 8:30 pm 84 Stanton Street The Living Room (corner of Allen & Ludlow) FREE!!!! Joy Askew with her band Saturday, May 30th 10:00 pm CB's 313 Gallery 313 Bowery (at Bleecker Street) $5 or $6 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 20:12:05 -0400 From: "LB" Subject: MM: No Patty: Wilcox Sorry to use this forum to ask this question, but I'm having the darndest time finding an answer. Is anyone out there from the Dayton/Cincinnati, Ohio area? David Wilcox is performing at the Benner Fieldhouse on the 23rd, but I can't find any information about it. Can anyone help? Thanks. LB ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V2 #138 *********************************