From: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org (mad-mission-digest) To: mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Subject: mad-mission-digest V2 #125 Reply-To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sender: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * If you wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * mad-mission-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Patty's tour dates, go to: * http://www.spectra.net/~ducksoup/pattyg/patttour.htm * OR * go to http://www.amrecords.com/road/index.html * and fill in the blanks :) * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V2 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. mad-mission-digest Monday, May 11 1998 Volume 02 : Number 125 Today's Subjects: ----------------- MM: Ellis Paul ["House, Steve, HOUSESH" ] Re: MM: Patty-related content... -Reply [Mark Cicero ] Re: MM: Patty-related content... -Reply [hooligan ] MM: RE: Patty-related content... ["Luca, Joseph" ] MM: wish list [McWoolander ] Re: MM: guess i'll jump on the BANDwagon :) ["Sean Palen" ] Re: MM: Patty-related content... [BETHANY LEANN BAKER ] MM: Cincinnati show ["LB" ] MM: Cincinnati Show :( :( :( :( [Tom McFarlane ] MM: RE: wish list [Erin Scrafford ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 12:35:00 +0100 From: "House, Steve, HOUSESH" Subject: MM: Ellis Paul Hi folks Well at last I have managed to get an Ellis Paul cd.... ' Stories' First listening I thought very good, the more I've listened, the greater it gets. Thanks to Tina, Cindy, Caroline, Rick etc for your earlier replies, yes Rick King of Seventh Avenue blows your mind but whatabout ' Looking for my Friends' Patty content:- I read in one of the UK Sunday papers that Lilith Fair was coming to England in the Autumn (Fall) can anyone confirm this? Patty at last..... Take care Steve Lichfield, England ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 07:30:53 -0500 From: Mark Cicero Subject: Re: MM: Patty-related content... -Reply Just my 2 cents: I would like to see Jewel open for Patty. Patty should headline. Regards, Mark Nashville, TN >>> CornflkGl 05/09/98 08:49pm >>> In a message dated 5/9/98 1:21:05 PM, you wrote: <> I would have to be pretty stinking unoriginal and say I'd love to see Patty open for Jewel. Oops... I already saw that ;). OK then, I'll vote for Patty and The Indigo Girls, and Moxy Früvous... maybe with Kinnie Starr opening. And while I know I'm probably crucifying myself, I have to say that I saw Ellis and Patty together once... and I wasn't impressed by Ellis at all. :::pulling on her bullet and flame proof vest::: Rachel :D ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 07:33:50 -0700 (PDT) From: hooligan Subject: Re: MM: Patty-related content... -Reply I'd vote for Elliott Smith, and the Cure - which seems kinda random but i've been listening to a tape with FR on one side and some Cure songs on the other. Sounds odd, but it works well for me. ;) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 11:11:40 -0400 From: "Luca, Joseph" Subject: MM: RE: Patty-related content... Howdy! With whom would I like to see Patty tour? Without doubt, the incomparable Dar Williams. Ciao, Joe ---------- From: kartalst@HUGSE1.HARVARD.EDU[SMTP:kartalst@HUGSE1.HARVARD.EDU] Sent: Saturday, May 09, 1998 1:09 PM To: mad-mission@smoe.org Subject: MM: Patty-related content... OK, now, put on your dreaming caps... ...even though this may not seem practical, as we have like no input as to patty's touring schedule (only her management/booking/record label does...), here is my question: who would YOU like to see Patty tour with?!? I personally would like to see Patty tour with ELlis Paul (oh, like that's a surprise coming from me...) or CATIE CURTIS (I AM A HUGE CATIE FAN...) or i could see her on a bill with Keb Mo and Bonnie Raitt... that's all for now stephanie Stephanie Maria Kartalopoulos We should be very greatful to have a kartalst@hugse1.harvard.edu limited body...like mine or like The Greek Poet Chyck yours. If you had a limitless life it would be a real problem for you. What makes a desert beautiful is -Shunryu Suzuki that soemwhere it hides a well. -Exupery ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 11:11:59 -0400 From: Amy_Emerman@time-inc.com Subject: MM: wish list I would love to see Shawn Colvin open for Patty. This is not supposed to be insulting to Shawn in any way...just that I think it would be good tht way, especially since Shawn is playing shorter sets now anyway due to a combination of her pregnancy and age. Shawn is wonderful, but much mellower than Patty. It might be cool to start mellow and sweet, warm up, and then go to gorgeus and powerful. Well, even back-to-back sets would be awesome. But Shawn should come first, and lead up to Patty. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 11:15:48 -0400 From: Amy_Emerman@time-inc.com Subject: Re: MM: Patty-related content... -Reply - --------------- cc:Mail Forwarded --------------- From: MC1@wallerlaw.com AT TIME_INC Date: 05/11/98 07:30 AM To: CornflkGl@aol.com AT TIME_INCmad-mission@smoe.org AT TIME_INC Cc: Subject: Re: MM: Patty-related content... -Reply jewel opening for patty would be cool. or at least on the same bill -- equal time 'course patty is better. jewel may have sold more records, but who cares...watch out. world here comes patty griffin ______________________________ Forward Header _____________________________ _____ Subject: Re: MM: Patty-related content... -Reply Author: MC1@wallerlaw.com at TIME_INC Date: 5/11/98 7:30 AM Just my 2 cents: I would like to see Jewel open for Patty. Patty should headline. Regards, Mark Nashville, TN >>> CornflkGl 05/09/98 08:49pm >>> In a message dated 5/9/98 1:21:05 PM, you wrote: <> I would have to be pretty stinking unoriginal and say I'd love to see Patty open for Jewel. Oops... I already saw that ;). OK then, I'll vote for Patty and The Indigo Girls, and Moxy Fr?vous... maybe with Kinnie Starr opening. And while I know I'm probably crucifying myself, I have to say that I saw Ellis and Patty together once... and I wasn't impressed by Ellis at all. :::pulling on her bullet and flame proof vest::: Rachel :D ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 11:25:04 EDT From: LeShawnte Subject: MM: guess i'll jump on the BANDwagon :) Love to see Patty tour with Marc Cohn, Dave Mathews Band, Paula Cole, Jonatha Brooke, JackoPierce, Elliot Smith (good one, whomever stated it), Ben Folds Five (don't ask :), and of course the all time fave, though probably never, Sarah M... but hey we gots Lilith!!! I want to thank the Maddest (this means good) of the missioners who replied and actually snail mailed me about We Are Water, and if you're expecting something from me, it's in the mail, no not a cliche', but honestly I just trecked to the post office in the down pours of Westport, MA and sent out some things :) Shawnte' "All the smart kids live in Asia, lord have mercy on us, euthanasia..." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 12:10:12 -0400 From: McWoolander Subject: MM: wish list Patty touring with Jonatha Brooke, Patty Larkin, Lucinda Williams, Marc Cohn - or even some bigger names such as Jackson Browne; or perhaps the ultimate redhead bill: Patty and Bonnie Raitt. On a personal, maybe parochial level, if she plays Connecticut I'd love to see the nutmeg state's own Sweeter Than Wine opening for Patty (they would've last year at the Eli Whitney Barn but were asked too late and had a prior gig). Patty Griffin fans would love this acoustic-based duo. Have fun, folks! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 09:12:20 PDT From: "Sean Palen" Subject: Re: MM: guess i'll jump on the BANDwagon :) I just wanted to let you know that Jackopierce has broken up, they're now known as American Horse with three of the four band members plus an amazing lead guitarist. I caught them down here in San Antonio, they grow on you and I'm sure will form a good fan base. OK take care, Sean >From owner-mad-mission@smoe.org Mon May 11 08:31:39 1998 >Received: from smoe.org [204.167.97.154] (root) > by siren.shore.net with esmtp (Exim) > id 0yYuYB-0001z7-00; Mon, 11 May 1998 11:31:35 -0400 >Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) > by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) with SMTP id LAA28464; > Mon, 11 May 1998 11:31:31 -0400 (EDT) >Received: by smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Mon, 11 May 1998 11:31:27 - -0400 >Received: (from majordom@localhost) > by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) id LAA28411 > for mad-mission-outgoing; Mon, 11 May 1998 11:29:11 -0400 (EDT) >Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (imo29.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.73]) > by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-relay2) with ESMTP id LAA28399 > for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 11:28:53 -0400 (EDT) >Received: from LeShawnte@aol.com > by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv14.1) id FRZUa02462 > for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 11:25:04 -0400 (EDT) >From: LeShawnte >Message-ID: <8483cbf9.35571851@aol.com> >Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 11:25:04 EDT >To: mad-mission@smoe.org >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Subject: MM: guess i'll jump on the BANDwagon :) >Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit >X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 52 >Sender: owner-mad-mission@smoe.org >Precedence: bulk > >Love to see Patty tour with Marc Cohn, Dave Mathews Band, Paula Cole, Jonatha >Brooke, JackoPierce, Elliot Smith (good one, whomever stated it), Ben Folds >Five (don't ask :), and of course the all time fave, though probably never, >Sarah M... but hey we gots Lilith!!! > > >I want to thank the Maddest (this means good) of the missioners who replied >and actually snail mailed me about We Are Water, and if you're expecting >something from me, it's in the mail, no not a cliche', but honestly I just >trecked to the post office in the down pours of Westport, MA and sent out some >things :) > >Shawnte' > >"All the smart kids live in Asia, lord have mercy on us, euthanasia..." > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 11:38:38 -0500 From: Erin DeRuggiero Subject: MM: Patty in Minneapolis Some news about the change of venue from Fine Line to Bunkers on 5/12/98. Apparently, this show is for music journalists, photographers, writers, and A&R people only...The only way to get in is via the "guest list" and you must show a press pass.... - -Erin Erin DeRuggiero "We are the music makers... Advertising Coordinator and we are the dreamers of dreams" Utne Reader Magazine (612) 338-5040 -Willy Wonka erin@utne.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 14:16:57 -0500 (CDT) From: BETHANY LEANN BAKER Subject: Re: MM: Patty-related content... I would have to say Bruce Springsteen (since he is one of her biggest influences)! :) - -Beth On Sat, 9 May 1998 kartalst@HUGSE1.HARVARD.EDU wrote: > OK, now, put on your dreaming caps... > > ...even though this may not seem practical, as we have like no input as to > patty's touring schedule (only her management/booking/record label > does...), > > here is my question: > > who would YOU like to see Patty tour with?!? > > I personally would like to see Patty tour with ELlis Paul (oh, like that's > a surprise coming from me...) > > or > > CATIE CURTIS (I AM A HUGE CATIE FAN...) > > or > > i could see her on a bill with Keb Mo and Bonnie Raitt... > > that's all for now > stephanie > > Stephanie Maria Kartalopoulos We should be very greatful to have a > kartalst@hugse1.harvard.edu limited body...like mine or like > The Greek Poet Chyck yours. If you had a limitless life it > would be a real problem for you. > What makes a desert beautiful is -Shunryu Suzuki > that soemwhere it hides a well. > -Exupery > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 16:04:42 EDT From: DCar10 Subject: MM: Mpls. Fine Line show still on After reading Erin & Mike's e-mails about the Patty show at The Fine Line in Minneapolis on 5/12/98 I was completely dissappointed beacause I already had tickets!! and have been waiting for patty to come to town. But according to the people at the Fine Line, the show will go on tomorrow. The doors open @ 5:00 and music starts @ 5:30. Patty will be on first, warming up for Cheri Knight. There is a show at Bunkers but that is later and it is Invitation Only. If this info isn't correct, blame the Fine Line because this is what they told me as of 2:00PM today (Monday). If your in the Mpls/St. Paul area come on down, I definately will be there. Dan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 17:30:18 -0400 From: "LB" Subject: MM: Cincinnati show Hey, kids. I just want to send a quick post to let you all know I saw Patty (and her kickin' band) at a little place in Cincinnati last night. She came onstage alone and started with "Sweet Lorraine," (which was plenty for me. I could've gone home after that!) then moved on to "Poor Man's House," before bringing on the band. They did songs from the new album, but I don't know the songs, so besides "One Big Love," I couldn't make out the words. Being a person who loves her first album, I was a bit apprehensive, as I know many of you are, about hearing Patty perform with a band, but lemme tell you...MAN! They rocked! Yeah, at times Patty could barely be heard, but at other times she came through so clearly and soulfully that I wondered why I ever doubted that I would like her with backup. Hints of Janis Joplin... The most absurd moment of the evening was when the singer for the opening band got into an old-fashioned bar brawl right there in the club, IN THE MIDDLE OF "One Big Love"!!!!!! I think I smell some irony, don't you? Patty kept right on singing, though, and she made light of it afterwards, remarking, "That song has that effect on people." :) She came back to encore with one of her guitarists, and they did a sweet rendition of "Let Him Fly." It's true that I teach school at 7:15 in the morning, and since Patty didn't take the stage until 10:45 p.m. I was getting impatient, but I'm really glad I stayed. I saw her open for John Gorka (my favorite) in the fall of 1996, and again with Freedy Johnston and Shawn Colvin in March of last year, but this show was all about her, so I really enjoyed it. I hope she comes back through town when she polishes up the band. LB ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 18:58:06 +0000 From: Tom McFarlane Subject: MM: Cincinnati Show :( :( :( :( I was at the Cincinnati show at Top Cats last night too, but I can't give a review as generous as LB's. I too had attended her warm ups for John Gorka and Shawn Colvin, and was very eager to see her perform for the first time as headliner. Here's the simple truth guys: THIS BAND THING IS A REAL BAD IDEA! They so overpowered her that she was like a songbird on a freight train. Her unacommpanied versions of "Sweet Lorriane" and "Poor Man's House" were the only bright spots in an otherwise terrible evening of music. I had talked another couple into coming along - even loaned them a copy of LWG to familiarize them with her music. I don't think I'll ever here the end of it from them. All I heard on the drive home was how they didn't understand my taste in music anymore, and wondered if I'd started liking Green Day, Nine Inch Nails and Marilyn Manson too. That's how bad it was. There was hardly a glimmer of anything we've come to love about her music. There may have been some passionate lyrics and haunting melodies hidden within and behind the avalanche of noise produced by the band, but I missed them. In 1965 when Dylan went electric at Newport with The Band, there was a similarly negative clamor, but it was primarily a PHILSOPHICAL issue. With Patty its strictly a QUALITY issue. Her back up muscians did NOTHING to enhance the sound, feel or emotion of her music. Maybe it'll all be a lot easier to listen to and even enjoy on the CD, with professional engineers handling the sound. I'll buy Flaming Red as soon as it's out. And I'll given it an open-minded listen and really hope I end up liking it. (And even if I don't, I hope she gets real popular and makes lots and lots of money. She is one of the most unacclaimed talents in the music industry today. ) But for now, take this as fair warning: If you are looking forward to seeing Patty live for a "Living With Ghosts" kind of evening, BE PREPARED TO BE SLIMED! tm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 16:12:58 -0400 From: Erin Scrafford Subject: MM: RE: wish list My wish line-up would be Patty with Gillian Welch. >---------- >From: McWoolander[SMTP:McWoolander@prodigy.net] >Sent: Monday, May 11, 1998 12:10 PM >To: mad-mission@smoe.org >Subject: MM: wish list > >Patty touring with Jonatha Brooke, Patty Larkin, Lucinda Williams, Marc >Cohn - or even some bigger names such as Jackson Browne; or perhaps the >ultimate redhead bill: Patty and Bonnie Raitt. > >On a personal, maybe parochial level, if she plays Connecticut I'd love >to see the nutmeg state's own Sweeter Than Wine opening for Patty (they >would've last year at the Eli Whitney Barn but were asked too late and >had a prior gig). Patty Griffin fans would love this acoustic-based >duo. > >Have fun, folks! > ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V2 #125 *********************************