From: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org (mad-mission-digest) To: mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Subject: mad-mission-digest V2 #69 Reply-To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sender: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * If you wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * mad-mission-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Patty's tour dates, go to: * http://www.spectra.net/~ducksoup/pattyg/patttour.htm * OR * go to http://www.amrecords.com/road/index.html * and fill in the blanks :) * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V2 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. mad-mission-digest Monday, March 16 1998 Volume 02 : Number 069 Today's Subjects: ----------------- MM: New Mad Mission tabs from Dave [David Lewis ] MM: Mad Mission Tabs again [David Lewis ] MM: Looking for Feedback [heidi burtt ] MM: Lyrical Sense [Juvenilia ] Re: MM: Looking for Feedback [EMSTER68 ] Re: MM: Looking for Feedback [David Lewis ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 17:00:12 -0400 From: David Lewis Subject: MM: New Mad Mission tabs from Dave Hi everyone. I did a transcription of Mad Mission a month or two ago which is still posted on my website. It's accurate in terms of the notes and chords it produces, but after seeing Patty play it live I discovered that she was accomplishing the same thing in a much easier way. She uses standard tuning with a capo on the 7th fret instead of open D tuning with lots of fingerstyle type stuff. Everything makes so much more sense now. I always knew there was something wrong with that earlier transcription since it would have been very difficult to play without using a fingerstyle method of playing... which I don't think Patty uses much. Also, even with fingerstyle, it wasn't that easy to play. Also, I could tell just by listening to the recording that it didn't *sound* like it was being played fingerstyle. It sounded like it was being played with a flatpick (which it is). Anyway, so here's the new, improved and much easier to play transcription! Enjoy! Dave Mad Mission Music and Lyrics by By Patty Griffin Transcription by David Lewis - dlewis@accesscable.net *note* I did a transcription about two months ago that was accurate in terms of which notes to play but was way off in terms of how Patty actually plays those notes. My original transcription was played in the key of D by using an open D tuning and no capo. This transcription is played in the key of D by using standard tuning, mostly G chord shapes (which actually sound as D chord of course) and a capo on the 7th fret. This new version is just done from memory. I haven't double checked it with the recording so it may not be 100% accurate... but who wants to be 100% accurate anyway :) The benefit of this version is that it is much easier to play since it uses standard chord shapes in the first position rather than fingerstyle type stuff way up the neck. Standard tuning. Capo the 7th fret. Gmaj. shape - --------------0--0--2--3--|--------------0--0--2--3--|--------------0--0--2--3-- | - --------------|--3--3--3--|--------------|--3--3--3--|--------------|--3--3--3-- | - --------------|--|--|--|--|--------------|--|--|--|--|--------------|--|--|--|-- | - --------0-----|--|--|--|--|--------0-----|--|--|--|--|--------0-----|--|--|--|-- | - --0--2--|-----|--|--|--|--|--0--2--|-----|--|--|--|--|--0--2--|-----|--|--|--|-- | - --|--|--|--3--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--3--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--3--|--|--|--|-- | | | | |.-| |/ | |/ | | | |.-| |/ | |/ | | | |.-| |/ | |/ ------- ---- ------- ---- ------- ---- 3 3 3 Emin.shape Amaj.shape (barréII) - ------------0--0--0-----0-|--0-----------0--0--2--3--| - ------------|--0--|-----|-|--2---3-------|--3--3--3--| - ------------|--0--|-----|-|--2---|-------|--|--|--|--| - ------0-----|--2--|-----|-|--2---|-------|--|--|--|--| - --0-2-|-----|--2--|--0--|-|--0---|-------|--|--|--|--| - --|-|-|--0--|--|--|--|--|-|--|---|----3--|--|--|--|--| etc... | | | |.-| |.-| |.-| |. -| |. | |/ | |/ ----- ---- ---- ---- ----- ---- 3 p.s. this file should be viewed in a monospaced font to ensure that everything lines up. *********************************** Graphic Design - Multimedia - Web Design email: dlewis@accesscable.net web: http://mypage.accesscable.net/~dlewis ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 17:19:42 -0400 From: David Lewis Subject: MM: Mad Mission Tabs again Opps! The first post seemed got some weird line breaks placed in it. I think I just made the lines too long. So I just cut out one of the repeated bars to make the lines shorter. This one should look better. Just make sure you're looking at it with a monospaced font. Dave Standard tuning. Capo the 5th fret. Gmaj. shape - --------------0--0--2--3--|--------------0--0--2--3--| - --------------|--3--3--3--|--------------|--3--3--3--| - --------------|--|--|--|--|--------------|--|--|--|--| - --------0-----|--|--|--|--|--------0-----|--|--|--|--| - --0--2--|-----|--|--|--|--|--0--2--|-----|--|--|--|--| - --|--|--|--3--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--3--|--|--|--|--| | | | |.-| |/ | |/ | | | |.-| |/ | |/ ------- ---- ------- ---- 3 3 Emin.shape Amaj.shape (barréII) - ------------0--0--0-----0-|--0-----------0--0--2--3--| - ------------|--0--|-----|-|--2---3-------|--3--3--3--| - ------------|--0--|-----|-|--2---|-------|--|--|--|--| - ------0-----|--2--|-----|-|--2---|-------|--|--|--|--| - --0-2-|-----|--2--|--0--|-|--0---|-------|--|--|--|--| - --|-|-|--0--|--|--|--|--|-|--|---|----3--|--|--|--|--| etc... | | | |.-| |.-| |.-| |. -| |. | |/ | |/ ----- ---- ---- ---- ----- ---- 3 *********************************** Graphic Design - Multimedia - Web Design email: dlewis@accesscable.net web: http://mypage.accesscable.net/~dlewis ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 17:00:34 -0800 From: heidi burtt Subject: MM: Looking for Feedback Hi MM'rs, I have a question. Maybe you can all give me some feed back on this. In most of Patty's songs and a lot of other artists that I listen to, they sing songs of sadness, lonliness, personal things, etc., I enjoy listening to this music and I do get comfort from the lyrics, however, in the songs that I write, they have very similar subject matter. I tend to write about things that happen in life be it tragic or joyous or sad. I try to not make them to personal but sometimes that can't be helped. I noticed however that alot of the people around me that hear the music I listen to and write say that it's to depressing and I should try to write "happier" songs. That no one wants to listen to music that hits that close to home. I don't want to give up my style of writing. Number one it's a great outlet for me and number two, I think they make good songs. Obviously we all like to listen to this music and I'm sure we are somewhat well adjusted people, so I find it hard to believe that my music is to "personal". I won't give up my style and I know that the obvious answer would be to go with myself and don't worry about what other people have to say but I just wanted to get some opinions. Any comments? Thanks,Heidi (pretty much a "happy" person) :D ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 20:14:49 EST From: Juvenilia Subject: MM: Lyrical Sense Mad Missionaries.... ...In response to Heidi's statement.... I know that much of the music I listen to have emotions like anger, sadness and other similar emotions embroidered within their lyrics, but I think some of that style of songwriting make the best songs. I don't write songs per say, but I do write a lot of poetry and I have had so many people telling me that I should write an upbeat poem or a poem that doesn't necessarily involve death, sadness or anger. Personally, I pick up negative thoughts better than any positive ones. They allow me to vent and produce some of the best poems I've written. I agree with Heidi that it's also a very creative outlet. Patty's "Sweet Lorraine", and "Poor Man's House" (my two favorites) are perfect examples of 'sad' songs, but they are both so moving in my opinion. So, Heidi, I think you should keep up with the words and music you're writing. I wouldn't change my style for the world. Soulfully, Robbie ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 20:34:47 EST From: EMSTER68 Subject: Re: MM: Looking for Feedback Heidi write what you feel! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 21:40:46 -0400 From: David Lewis Subject: Re: MM: Looking for Feedback >people around me that hear the music I >listen to and write say that it's to depressing and I should try to >write "happier" songs. That no one wants to listen to music that hits >that close to home... I have to disagree with your friends. Sometimes the best thing for someone who's blue is a really "depressing" album. It's a sort of catharsis I suppose. You listen to the tune, relate to the person in the song or the situation and you suddenly feel better, not worse, because you know that you're not alone. Everyone knows what it's like to be lonely at some point so we can all relate. What bothers me are songs about sorrow that are whiney or bitter... like some of the stuff by Alanis Morrisette perhaps. In Patty's music, she often sounds sad but not really bitter. She's not demanding your sympathy, she's not saying, "Hey, look at me, I've had a really crappy life damnit!" she's just expressing and sharing her sadness. Plain and simple. Even in a song like "Poor Man's House", the focus is on how sad it is that these people are so poor and are treated so badly because of it. It's not angry or bitter in my view... it's just plain sad. *********************************** Graphic Design - Multimedia - Web Design email: dlewis@accesscable.net web: http://mypage.accesscable.net/~dlewis ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V2 #69 ********************************