From: owner-lucy-list-digest@smoe.org (lucy-list-digest) To: lucy-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: lucy-list-digest V6 #161 Reply-To: lucy-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-lucy-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-lucy-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk lucy-list-digest Friday, October 29 2004 Volume 06 : Number 161 In this issue: [lucy-list] Political Agenda [lucy-list] Bravo! Lucy Re: [lucy-list] Political Agenda Re: [lucy-list] Political Agenda RE: [lucy-list] Political Agenda Re: [lucy-list] Political Agenda Re: [lucy-list] Political Agenda Re: [lucy-list] Political Agenda Re: [lucy-list] Political Agenda ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 19:07:51 -0400 From: "Hugh Polland" Subject: [lucy-list] Political Agenda When did this list become a political tool of people who impose their views on the rest of the list. I thought this list was a place where we all could share wonderful stories and views of our beloved Lucy. Today I received a political message encouraging me to vote a certain way in the upcoming election. I don't think this is a proper use of this list. Hugh ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 19:40:19 EDT From: NCdoc8@aol.com Subject: [lucy-list] Bravo! Lucy I applaud the artists willing to take a stand on the present political situation. This country is at a critical time and this election could be paramount to the continuation of freedoms and free speech as we know it. (Just ask the former Cat Stevens if you think I might be exaggerating the point). As for the "purpose" of this list, it has always been what we all want it to be. The Lucy list has remained and I hope it continues to be a sounding board for politics and everyday life. Of course, we all love Lucy and her music but that does not mean that we need to have ground rules for what other topics can be brought up. Personally, I am even more proud to be a fan of Lucy's after receiving the email message. I hope everyone is well....and Benay...I hope you are doing well. We all miss your posts. Lenny (from NC) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 18:48:10 -0500 From: "PhotoTwang" Subject: Re: [lucy-list] Political Agenda It was signed by your "beloved Lucy". Good for her! This election is much too important not to take a stand. ~Richard - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hugh Polland" To: Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 6:07 PM Subject: [lucy-list] Political Agenda > When did this list become a political tool of people who impose their > views on > the rest of the list. I thought this list was a place where we all could > share > wonderful stories and views of our beloved Lucy. Today I received a > political > message encouraging me to vote a certain way in the upcoming election. I > don't > think this is a proper use of this list. Hugh ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 17:55:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Chaput Subject: Re: [lucy-list] Political Agenda respectfully; I find it offensive that artists as listed in the email use this type of forum to espouse their political views. I appreciate the fact that we all have a right to express ourselves. However, what makes artists think that their customers are at all interested in their political preferences? I am troubled that my hard earned dollars that purchase CD's and concert tickets will contribute to a political expression that I vehemently disagree with. As Laura Ingraham (author, radio, etc) says: shut up and sing! Mike ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 22:49:32 -0400 From: Paul Rafanello Subject: RE: [lucy-list] Political Agenda Due to the petition, my wife & I refuse to see Lucy ever again. Paul ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 23:01:05 EDT From: Cpattersonhome@aol.com Subject: Re: [lucy-list] Political Agenda I agree with Hugh. Below is the email I sent to the list administrator. Incidentally, I'm a Democrat. Bill, I am extremely offended by the delivery of this message. I don't have a problem with Lucy expressing her political opinion but masking a political message as an "Important Lucy Note" is an abuse of her fan mailing list. If the subject had been "The Election", or "November 2", "John Kerry", "George Bush Must Go" or anything else I could have decided whether or not I wanted to read a political message. Instead, I unwittingly opened what I expected would be concert or album news and ended up having another political opinion forced upon me. You may want to suggest a "truth in emailing" policy to Lucy so that those of us who do not want to read political messages can simply opt not to open them. Chris Patterson ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 22:01:43 -0400 From: L Kling Subject: Re: [lucy-list] Political Agenda Mike Chaput wrote: >respectfully; > >I find it offensive that artists as listed in the email use this type of forum >to espouse their political views. > What forum is that? The Internet? >I appreciate the fact that we all have a >right to express ourselves. However, what makes artists think that their >customers are at all interested in their political preferences? > And why would anyone think that because an American citizen who makes his/her living by entertaining others have less right to make their political expressions known than a professor or janitor? >I am troubled >that my hard earned dollars that purchase CD's and concert tickets will >contribute to a political expression that I vehemently disagree with. > > The obvious choice for your dilemma is to stay at home and buy the music of artists whose political beliefs mirror your own. Lisa ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 20:34:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Deb Woodell Subject: Re: [lucy-list] Political Agenda I'm a bit surprised that some folks would be surprised by Lucy's political leanings. Deb ===== This I have learned: Because we can, we must try to change the world -- fully, wisely, restlessly. -- Rudy Nemser == Life is such a changing art. -- Dar Williams == __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 00:09:28 -0400 From: Tom Neff Subject: Re: [lucy-list] Political Agenda - --On Thursday, October 28, 2004 7:07 PM -0400 Hugh Polland wrote: > When did this list become a political tool - --On Thursday, October 28, 2004 5:55 PM -0700 Mike Chaput wrote: > I find it offensive that artists as listed in the email use this type of > forum... The problem with these postings to Lucy-List is that Lucy-List was not used for the mailing in question. The only people using Lucy-List as a "political tool" are the people doing this bellyaching. The news email concluded with a link that you can use to remove yourself if you don't want to receive further mailings. I am personally offended that people like Hugh and Mike would misuse this list for their political diatribes. It's supposed to be about the music, not political critiques of some other mailing list. I do want to add that for those people who are appalled that their CD dollars might be going to someone with a different political persuasion, they ought to be downright terrified at the dry cleaner's, the burger drive through, and the parking garage! About half this country is going to vote for each of the major parties next week. It is physically impossible to wall ourselves off into a political monoculture. For those who say "shut up and sing," I have a request: turn off your PC and type. ------------------------------ End of lucy-list-digest V6 #161 ******************************* This has been a posting from the Lucy Kaplansky mail list digest To unsubscribe send mail to Majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe lucy-list-digest" in the body of the message