From: owner-lucy-list-digest@smoe.org (lucy-list-digest) To: lucy-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: lucy-list-digest V6 #37 Reply-To: lucy-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-lucy-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-lucy-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk lucy-list-digest Tuesday, February 17 2004 Volume 06 : Number 037 In this issue: Re: [lucy-list] Lucy in Cleveland [lucy-list] birthday wishes Re: [lucy-list] Lucy in Cleveland Re: [lucy-list] lucy on long island again [lucy-list] Gosh, it's short! Re: [lucy-list] Gosh, it's short! Re: [lucy-list] Gosh, it's short! Re: [lucy-list] Lucy in Cleveland ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 07:40:46 -0500 From: Phil Kalina <76106.566@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: [lucy-list] Lucy in Cleveland Yes, good job, Ken! Ha, except that it was I who followed our leader's instruction to shout happy birthday. I was at the Beachland Ballroom too, with my girlfriend, Donna, and her friend, Diane. Here are just a few add't'l points: The hall was nearly full, close to 200 people, I'd guess. Lucy said she likes the place, as she doesn't get to play many old Croatian social halls. (Actually Lucy said Czechoslovakia, but someone corrected her.) Lucy admired the name of another act that apparently performs at the Beachland: the Gaza Strippers. Molly story: on seeing a photo of a cat, Molly said "meh", which her proud parents interpret as meow. Lucy expects USA Today to review The Red Thread (with a photo!) tomorrow or next Tuesday. The updated www.lucykaplansky.com should be online this week. The Red Thread cover photo was taken on the Williamsburgh Bridge. Donna works on community relations for Folk Alley.com (http://www.folkalley.com/) an all-the-time Internet stream of folk music. After the show, Lucy kindly posed for a photo while holding up a Folk Alley.com t-shirt. Phil ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 08:39:33 -0500 From: Sdgold60@aol.com Subject: [lucy-list] birthday wishes well done Phil...getting to wish lucy a happy birthday is a special Once a year event.. glad you all in cleveland got the chance... thanks for keeping up the 4 year ritual of having fans wish her a Happy Birthday... so happy happy to lucy whereever you are.... sharon "See your life as a gift from the great unknown And your task is to receive it" mary chapin carpenter ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 15:19:05 +0000 From: "Ken Long" Subject: Re: [lucy-list] Lucy in Cleveland Thanks, Phil for providing more details on the show and letting everybody know about the upcoming USA Today article! BTW, I hear you're on a first name basis with Lucy. ;-) Thanks also for mentioning FolkAlley.com, which sponsored last night's show. It's a pretty cool Internet radio station, which is well worth checking out! Ken - ----Original Message Follows---- From: Phil Kalina <76106.566@compuserve.com> Reply-To: lucy-list@smoe.org To: lucy-list@smoe.org Subject: Re: [lucy-list] Lucy in Cleveland Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 07:40:46 -0500 Yes, good job, Ken! Ha, except that it was I who followed our leader's instruction to shout happy birthday. I was at the Beachland Ballroom too, with my girlfriend, Donna, and her friend, Diane. Here are just a few add't'l points: The hall was nearly full, close to 200 people, I'd guess. Lucy said she likes the place, as she doesn't get to play many old Croatian social halls. (Actually Lucy said Czechoslovakia, but someone corrected her.) Lucy admired the name of another act that apparently performs at the Beachland: the Gaza Strippers. Molly story: on seeing a photo of a cat, Molly said "meh", which her proud parents interpret as meow. Lucy expects USA Today to review The Red Thread (with a photo!) tomorrow or next Tuesday. The updated www.lucykaplansky.com should be online this week. The Red Thread cover photo was taken on the Williamsburgh Bridge. Donna works on community relations for Folk Alley.com (http://www.folkalley.com/) an all-the-time Internet stream of folk music. After the show, Lucy kindly posed for a photo while holding up a Folk Alley.com t-shirt. Phil _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 13:58:59 EST From: Bernhot@aol.com Subject: Re: [lucy-list] lucy on long island again In a message dated 2/14/2004 8:41:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, lucykaplanskyfan@earthlink.net writes: Of course, it's still weeks away, but if there's anybody who decides they're definitely going to this show who could take at least one enthusiastic NYC Lucy fan at least from and back to the LIRR station (it looks as if Westbury is the closest), please get in touch with me off-list. It does not quite look public-transit-accessible enough to make me really happy about winging it, especially at night... Actually, Benay, the Garden City station is closest to the campus...or Mineola. Audrey ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 12:24:16 -0800 From: Tom Negrino Subject: [lucy-list] Gosh, it's short! Let me get this out of the way first: I love Lucy's music. The five or six times I've met her she's been unfailingly gracious and warm. I think that she's terrific. I try to spread the word about her with friends, on my Weblog, and by putting references to her in Macworld magazine and in at least eight of my books so far. So I'm not attacking her, OK? I noodge because I love. That said, I just got The Red Thread last Friday, and it is (of course) a good album, with just one glaring exception (the painfully over-earnest "Line in the Sand"). But it annoys me that it's so darned short! Look at this list: CD Length (min) The Tide 42.8 Flesh & Bone 49.1 Ten Year Night 42.5 Every Single Day 46.9 The Red Thread 38.8 As you can see, this is her shortest album yet. And I personally wouldn't say that it's her best. You know, I paid list price for this album at Amazon, preordered because I wanted to have it right away. And as a fan of Lucy's since 1994, I'm pleased with the music. But as a customer, I feel like I haven't gotten quite enough value for my money. We all know that Lucy's a terrific songwriter, and it's hard to believe that she hasn't come up with anything else worth recording in the three years since she recorded Every Single Day. And even if that were the case, we know that she does a terrific job with covers. Would it have killed her to put another one of those on the new album? I know that music isn't sold by the pound. I'm not saying that every artist should be required to max out a CD's 73 minute capacity (though many artists I love do; I'm thinking of MCC's Time*Sex*Love). But putting out a CD that's so short is, IMHO, disrespectful to her audience that eagerly awaits each new release. Is it just me? Do short albums bug the rest of you, too? Tom ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 21:30:17 -0000 From: "Donald Anderson" Subject: Re: [lucy-list] Gosh, it's short! Tom wrote ..... "I just got The Red Thread last Friday, and it is (of course) a good album, with just one glaring exception (the painfully over-earnest "Line in the Sand")." Well it's good that in such a forum of friendly people we can get a bit of dialogue going .... but I have to say I disagree Tom , as I think this is possibly one of the best things that Lucy's sung - Maybe I'm a sentimentalist , but I was really touched with the message that came across to me in this song , and let's all hope and pray that one day that line in the sand will truly disappear :) and sorry to take issue on another point you made ...... "But it annoys me that it's so darned short!" .... but I guess it's better to have quality rather than quantity !! :) Donald ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 17:41:10 -0500 From: Benay Bubar Subject: Re: [lucy-list] Gosh, it's short! Well, Tom, I do agree that The Red Thread struck me as short---certainly in comparison to Lucy's other albums and to many other albums as well. Then again, Dar Williams's most recent album, The Beauty of the Rain, is even a little bit shorter...and while I can wish (and have wished) that both were longer, that doesn't make me feel that I didn't get my money's worth on either one of them. Indeed there was a lot of material Lucy could have included on this album that isn't there. When she first started talking about making a new album, at least a year and something back, I made a list of what I wanted to be on it and quickly realized it would have to be a two-disc set in order to include everything. There are indeed a lot of covers I wish Lucy would record, some of the most prominent being More Than This, I'm Looking Through You, Someday Soon, and Willie. The last two I think are unlikely to get recorded unless and until Lucy gets over her expressed reluctance to record covers of songs by other women for fear that she can't do anything different enough with them---I don't happen to think this is true, but she appears to worry about it. I'm Looking Through You might have seemed redundant given the inclusion of Hole in My Head, since those are similar types of songs. More Than This...well, I still wish More Than This had been there...but I'm sure there were reasons why it wasn't, even if I don't know them. Certainly, unless Lucy did other new songs in concert somewhere that I'm not aware of, all of Lucy and Rick's originals that have seen the light of day since Every Single Day came out are on The Red Thread; I think it might have significantly bothered me if the album was this length and they weren't all there, but they are. Maybe the inclusion of any more covers would have upset the desired balance of covers and originals, since there are more originals than covers on every album since The Tide...and even if I'd been given the choice, I wouldn't really have wanted to wait another year for a new album simply in the uncertain hope of getting a couple more originals that would fit and allow for another cover or two. Some songwriters, like Susan Werner, seem endlessly prolific and have multiple finished but unrecorded originals to choose from in making an album...Lucy and Rick don't seem to be like that (or at least if they are, they hide it well). In any case, these were the songs that Lucy wanted to be on the album; I could wish there were more, but I didn't make the album, Lucy did. And I'm grateful for what's there... Benay ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 21:56:26 -0500 From: "Doug Fuller" Subject: Re: [lucy-list] Lucy in Cleveland - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Benay Bubar" > > the hidden track is I've Just Seen a Face and it's BEFORE > Track 1 Is this a cover of the Beatle's song? If so, has anyone heard Holly Cole's version of it? It's just awesome. I'll be sure to track down Lucy's version also... Cheers, Doug Fuller Boston ------------------------------ End of lucy-list-digest V6 #37 ****************************** This has been a posting from the Lucy Kaplansky mail list digest To unsubscribe send mail to Majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe lucy-list-digest" in the body of the message