From: owner-lucy-list-digest@smoe.org (lucy-list-digest) To: lucy-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: lucy-list-digest V6 #25 Reply-To: lucy-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-lucy-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-lucy-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk lucy-list-digest Monday, February 2 2004 Volume 06 : Number 025 In this issue: [lucy-list] Just me beggin' (no Lucy) [lucy-list] the perils of attempting family "harmony" [lucy-list] vin and idiots delight Re: [lucy-list] the perils of attempting family "harmony" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 10:12:04 -0600 From: "Richard Hill" Subject: [lucy-list] Just me beggin' (no Lucy) I know quite a few of you are in NYC. This is a plea to anyone who may have recorded Norah Jones last night, sittin' in with Vin Scelsa on his "Idiot's Delight" (WFUV). One of the guys on the NoJo list attempted a recording of it, but had problems. Vin introduced us to Norah, back in September of 2001, for which I am eternally grateful. It was Norah's first radio interview with anyone/anywhere. Unfortunately, Vin no longer allows his show to be streamed (which is really, really, really annoying). I won't take up any more space here on this, but if any of you near The Bronx happened to record last nights show, PLEASE get in touch with me (off list, of course). Thanks, ~Richard (Speaking of 'FUV: Lucy is John Platt's guest next Sunday morning on CityFolk Sunday Breakfast!) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 11:30:25 -0500 From: Benay Bubar Subject: [lucy-list] the perils of attempting family "harmony" Well, having just sent my parents, visiting for nine days, off to a local event related to their work, I have a few moments to reflect on the last couple of days and the latest puncture wounds to one of my many idealistic visions: that of the warm, respectful exchange of musical enjoyment within the Bubar family...an intergenerational bonding, a mutual appreciation of differing tastes, culminating in a broadening of perspective on both sides. The problem---the RECURRING problem---is not that my parents have musical tastes different from mine, but that (how come I always forget this?) they do not HAVE musical tastes. Now, I am not particularly set on my parents' liking LUCY'S music, per se. They're entitled to their own opinions. But Lucy would, I figured, provide a good way to get the ball rolling on my latest attempt at Great Musical Family Bonding. So, during what passed for a reflective lull in mealtime conversation, somewhere between the cholesterol-free Egg Beaters with meat-free sausages and the sugar-free Jell-o (yes, we eat like kings), I thrust The Red Thread into my mother's hands. "Look! This is Lucy Kaplansky's newest CD!" My mother eyed it warily, then slowly opened the CD booklet. "Oh!" she said. "She's CUTE!" (High praise indeed---"cute" is surpassed only by "adorable" in my mother's lexicon.) She gazed silently for a few moments at the interior of the booklet, and I waited, breathless, wondering which song's lyrics she was immersed in. "Oh!" she finally said again. "They give you the WORDS!" Pause. "Well, that's good. I suppose you need SOME way to figure out what on earth she's singing about." "Yeah, Mom...pretty much all CDs give you the words. Though, actually, Lucy enunciates pretty clearly most of the time." After this scintillating conversation, I figured the stealth approach was best for my next move. And I had the perfect weapon at my disposal, new since my parents' last visit---a computer that would play a good portion of my musical collection, not only Lucy but lots of other people, mixing the songs randomly. True, the system had a couple of imperfections, like the fact that a couple of live Lucy shows were mixed in there, creating an unnerving tendency for a track featuring Lucy's tender spoken introduction to "Ten Year Night" ("Here's a song about true love...") to be immediately followed by, say, Richard Shindell's "Are You Happy Now?" But, overall, I figured, THIS---hearing music---would suck them into some sort of sharing of musical experience. I sidled over to the computer in a free moment, hit "play" on the random setting, and "Crocodile Man" by Dave Carter and Tracy Grammer came bursting from the speakers. I watched my parents. No reaction; they were bent separately over pieces last week's Sunday Times. "Look!" I said excitedly, never one to leave well enough alone. "My computer plays MUSIC!" My mother looked up at me, brow furrowed. "It sounds like she's TALKING. Why is she TALKING? Why isn't she SINGING?" "Well, that's just this song. Tracy Grammer talks during this song. It's part of the song. She sings on the chorus, though." I waited, eager to prove my point. And soon enough, out blasted the chorus. Sure enough, Tracy was singing, and quite clearly indeed, but I hadn't paused to remember WHAT she would be singing just then: "SLEEPING with a STRANGER in a NO-NAME TOWN..." My parents both stared. Ummmm...okay, then. I clicked the button to skip to the next song. Ah! Joni Mitchell's "All I Want"! Perfect! I turned triumphantly to my parents---my parents who were young adults in the 60s, my father who was at BERKELEY then...and, OK, so Joni Mitchell got better known a little later, maybe, but..."You know who THIS is, right?" I said to them, expecting a torrent of reminiscences. "Who?" "Joni Mitchell...You know JONI MITCHELL, don't you?" "Heard of her, I guess," said my father. "Never listened to her music, though." I gave up, grabbed a section of the New York Times I'd already read, and retreated to a corner. My father took over the computer to surf the Web as the computer continued to play randomly selected music, with neither of my parents paying any attention to it. Until Susan Werner came on, singing "Big Car." My father took a deep breath. "So THIS song..." I looked up, instantly giving him my full attention---he was making an effort! He was going to make a comment related to music! And finally, he spoke: "So...this is Joni Mitchell, too?" And that was when I realized it was going to be a long nine days. Benay P.S. Sorry, Richard---didn't hear, let alone record, Norah Jones last night...clearly, I ended up having other things on my mind...but hope you find someone who did! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 11:57:01 -0500 From: Sdgold60@aol.com Subject: [lucy-list] vin and idiots delight Its not that VIN doesnt allow his show to be streamed the Digital Millenium Act prohits shows like Vin's to broadcast an artist singing their songs back to back with out edited the show and for Vin or broadcasters like him to play music in the manner which he chooses to... Richard i suggest you get to an idiot..or one of vin's loyal and most knowledgable listeners... someone give richard the idiots digest link... i know you are all out there live and listening... sharon "I'm so glad that you finally made it here With the things you know now, that only time could tell Looking back, seeing far, landing right where we are And oh, you're aging, oh and I am aging, Oh, aren't we aging well?" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 13:26:54 -0500 From: Subject: Re: [lucy-list] the perils of attempting family "harmony" OK, here's my $.02 on this. When my wife and I first met and were dating, music was a big part of our relationship. Since then, I've become more interested (she would say obsessed) in music, and frankly more interested in less popular artists--meaning that you frequently get to meet em and then have stories to tell. My wife has gone in the opposite direction. Now, if I really want to have a conversation with her, I can just ask her to listen to a very meaningful song, like say "This Is Home", or Rosanne's "What We Really Want". This ensures a good conversation as she tells me what is on her mind WHILE the music is playing. That's right, she blocks it our completely. And if there's a story associated with a concert or meeting the singer after, well, she has no interest. We are compatible in many other ways, of course, so don't think that I don't like her and that I'm just looking for support while putting her down. I don't expect her to share my passion, but it would be nice for her to LISTEN to a tune sometime. Once, we sat literally three feet away from Kim Richie at a show, and it was incredible, or as my wife says, it was "OK, I guess". Well, if looks like there may be a breakthrough. She is scheduled to see Lucy with me when we take a family trip to Minneapolis in early April. The songs on The Red Thread talk about experiences we share, including adopting two beautiful young boys. So, I hope this one will resonate with her, because there's such a wonderful world of feeling and expression in music. I am looking forward to seeing Lucy in Minneapolis, and I am very much enjoying The Red Thread. Lots of great tunes, both familiar from concerts over the last year or so, or brand new to me. Rick V vosmo > > From: Benay Bubar > Date: 2004/02/01 Sun AM 11:30:25 EST > To: lucy-list@smoe.org > Subject: [lucy-list] the perils of attempting family "harmony" ------------------------------ End of lucy-list-digest V6 #25 ****************************** This has been a posting from the Lucy Kaplansky mail list digest To unsubscribe send mail to Majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe lucy-list-digest" in the body of the message