From: owner-lucy-list-digest@smoe.org (lucy-list-digest) To: lucy-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: lucy-list-digest V4 #232 Reply-To: lucy-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-lucy-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-lucy-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk lucy-list-digest Tuesday, October 8 2002 Volume 04 : Number 232 In this issue: [lucy-list] Lucy's World Tour Of Scotland 2002 [lucy-list] pittsburgh Re: [lucy-list] while awaiting more reviews Re: [lucy-list] Lucy's World Tour Of Scotland 2002 Re: [lucy-list] while awaiting more reviews Re: [lucy-list] Lucy's World Tour Of Scotland 2002 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 10:17:09 +0000 (GMT) From: jeremy.briggs@baesystems.com Subject: [lucy-list] Lucy's World Tour Of Scotland 2002 So Lucy's UK/Eire tour is at an end and She went out on a high. The Scottish listers have roamed far and wide to see Lucy our normal two times this tour as there was only one Scottish date, myself to Belfast and Donald & Liz to West Houghton (but that is their story). However this was going to be our last chance to see her (perhaps for some considerable time) and she did not disappoint us. In fact Lucy's reaction when she got on stage in front of the big crowd last night was "Wow!". But I am jumping ahead of myself. St Andrew's in the Square is a large, old, deconsecrated church in Glasgow which seems to be becoming the venue of choice for our favourite type of music - - Catie Curtis and Dar Williams have both played there this year. The main doors of the church baffle the newcomers as they do not open and you actually have to enter the venue by going down the outside stairs, through the basement bar/restaurant and then up the stairs on the far side and out into the main part of the church more or less where those main doors could have let you in. The bar was pretty packed when I got there and Lucy & Rick were sitting eating at one of the tables and being given their privacy by the crowd. It was good to get to chat to Donald and Liz again, who had brought quite a crowd of friends to their first Lucy gig and when we all went upstairs to take our seats we were surprised at the size of the crowd. The seating layout was different from the Dar Williams concert with the stage now being more naturally at the head of the church in front of the pulpit and the chairs arranged in rows looking forward. In July, when Dar was there, the stage was at one side with the chairs strangely arranged in a semicircle around it. First up was Amy Rigby from Nashville playing guitar with a quite a line in angry and cynical songs and who kept going even after breaking a string. She was a confident performer who got the crowd behind her and was a good warm up for the main act. And our main act did seem quite taken aback by the number of people who were waiting to see her, both when she was standing at the side waiting to be introduced and went she got on stage. The crowd in Belfast nine days before had been about 200 (which meant that the Errigle was very packed) but last night there must have been pushing 300, perhaps twice that for the Dar Williams concert. Lucy's reaction to the crowd was "Wow!" which was pretty much our reaction to her. She liked the venue, which is pretty spectacular compared to many we have seen her in over here and she was off into a run of songs and stories. Do I have to say that the Woman's Hour Air Guitar incident is now an enthusiastically told story? No, we were expecting that, but she still does not understand why we all laugh at the mention of Women's Hour and no one admits to listening to it however she did tell us a little more about Bryan Ferry recording. Lucy did not actually sing on the track but just spoke the lyrics which is what the producers asked her to do and that she can hear herself on the track (even if the rest of us cannot). The Dad song in Belfast had been Asteroid but last night when she asked if there were any mathematicians in the audience she did get one very definite "Yes" and so she told us more of the "A Beautiful Mind" story including her parents bumpy introduction to each other and followed it up with the Pi song after someone else was able to recite Pi to more decimal places than she knew. She told the Glenfarg Leather pants/Irish Whiskey story whilst hoping that the bar in the venue had "Auch-something" whisky. On asking if people knew where Glenfarg was there was a definite feeling from those in the crowd who have attended the small and very intimate Bein Inn Sessions that she should not tell too many people about them but continue to do them anyway. Perhaps the delight that so many people are now coming to see her is tinged for us with a little sadness that we may not get to see her in such an intimate venue as Glenfarg ever again. Land of the Living sounded even better to me than the first time around and she added Guinevere to the list of the songs from The Tide. I'll let Donald tell you more about the songs but she did encore with the requested Song For Molly and Broken Things, and then it was off the sign anything with her smiling taunt of "Try me!" The crowd headed for the merchandise stall as I headed home, so with any luck Lucy may not have had that many CDs left to take home to NY with her today. Jeremy (now handing your regularly scheduled review service back to Benay) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 05:17:27 -0700 (PDT) From: simona loberant Subject: [lucy-list] pittsburgh In case anyone in the Lucy camp reads the list I wanted to put out a request to get her back in Pittsburgh, PA. Out here on the outskirts of the midwest and on the border with "the east" we are waiting! Its been almost exactly a year since last Lucy came into town and I'm going to guess by the standing room only crowd that she's definately got a bit of a following here. Also, Lucy you got a great crowd at the Twelve Corners Coffeehouse series in Rochester, NY (my hometown where I visit my mom often) and now that 12Corners is known as Big Tree Music and has found a bigger theatre space you've got to play there soon too! That's just my itty bitty request. back to discussions of britney in a leather pimp hat. ~Simona Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 8:45:43 -0400 From: Subject: Re: [lucy-list] while awaiting more reviews I'm always struck by how angry Lucy seems during Turn the Lights Back On. Like she feels that same anger every time. Rick V Vosmo > Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 08:42:28 -0700 > From: "Gina" > Subject: Re: [lucy-list] while awaiting more reviews > > Lucy does have some depressing, deep and sometimes angry lyrics. But, it's > the way that she presents them honestly that makes them palatable. I > suppose that is the sign of a good shrink, no? We all have anger and > negative emotions on some level. She helps express that. That could be why > it makes you feel good. Then of course, there are the tunes. "Guilty as > Sin" comes to mind. It's a really angry song, but the tune is not in sync > with the anger. The tune softens it somehow. So, if you are in tune mode, > you can just enjoy the music. If you are in lyrics mode, you can enjoy the > safe expression of anger. Just some thoughts... > > - ----- Original Message ----- > From: Benay Bubar > To: > Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 7:55 PM > Subject: [lucy-list] while awaiting more reviews > > > > I am getting impatient for the last of the UK reviews to roll in...but > > thankful for the fact that they have been promised. In the meantime, I am > > wandering the earth in leather-jacketed bliss (well, not much...it has > been > > way too hot for the leather jacket lately...but I WOULD be if it were > > cooler). And tonight I am watching Austin City Limits on TV and it > features > > Bonnie Raitt singing I Can't Make You Love Me If You Don't. Which reminds > me > > that her Nick of Time was the first CD I ever owned, my first year of > > college. I wasn't a huge Bonnie Raitt fan and didn't even own a CD player > at > > the time, but someone had given it to me, I think...and one of my first > > experiences with parody (aside from the takeoff of Bye Bye Birdie I wrote > in > > high school---Bye Bye Birdseed, with chicken-related themes throughout, > I'm > > afraid!) was when some college acquaintances transformed the > above-mentioned > > Bonnie Raitt song into You Can't Make Me Love You If I Don't---their > version > > got pretty sadistic, but it warmed me up to the parody concept. So I've > just > > figured out that if I go back far enough, I can pretty much blame the > laying > > of the cornerstones of my current musical universe on Bonnie Raitt. > > > > Which has little to do with Lucy, but I haven't had any Lucy experiences > > lately aside from the great BBC interview with air guitar conversation! > > Still, I have been giving some thought to something a friend who has seen > > Lucy only once, not entirely of her own volition, said to me recently---to > > the effect that Lucy is a very good singer, but it's too bad her music is > so > > depressing. And I thought---Lucy? Depressing? And then I stopped to > consider > > the lyrics of my current favorite crop of Lucy songs---The Tide, Still > Life, > > Written on the Back of His Hand...hmmm... > > > > Perhaps I've mentioned this before, but once when I was home from college, > > years ago, my mother came into my room in rare familial-bonding mode and > > decided she was going to understand me by Appreciating My Music, and > > proceeded to read the lyrics to the songs on some of the tapes I had > (Indigo > > Girls, among others I recall...these were pre-Lucy days) and thereby > decided > > that I was probably quite seriously disturbed and wanted to know if my > > musical selections signified that there was Anything I Wanted to Discuss. > > And I tried to argue that I actually ENJOYED the music, it made me > > HAPPY...to no avail. I think my mother looked at me oddly for weeks > > thereafter. > > > > Anyway, I've come to realize that if my poor mother ever got her hands on > > Lucy's lyrics, she'd probably be no less concerned...probably MORE so, in > > fact. It would be easy to present to my mother the lyrics of my favorite > Dar > > Williams songs---You're Aging Well, When I Was a Boy---as they have a > > generally inspiring, uplifting tone, and conflicts pretty much get sorted > > out by the end. And yes, Lucy does have some non-depressing songs, mostly > > the romantic ones (Ten Year Night, Just You Tonight), and all right, This > Is > > Mine is pretty positive too...but there's nothing much under the category > of > > Catchily Inspiring and Uplifting. In pretty much all of my favorite Lucy > > songs, there's either anger throughout (as in the highly cathartic Angry > > Trilogy), or else things start out badly, then become vaguely worse, and > > there is at best a hope for understanding and growth by the end, but not > > really any foray into actual HAPPINESS. Optimist that I generally like to > > think I am, it seems kind of weird that these are the songs toward which I > > gravitate. But in fact I've never considered Lucy's music at all > > depressing...and though perhaps it should have been obvious, it's funny to > > realize that some people COULD find it so! I wonder what this says about > > me... > > > > Enough for one evening...waiting eagerly for those last UK reports... > > > > Benay > > ------------------------------ > > End of lucy-list-digest V4 #231 > ******************************* > > This has been a posting from the Lucy Kaplansky mail list digest > To unsubscribe send mail to Majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe > lucy-list-digest" in > the body of the message ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 08:50:44 -0400 From: "Benay Bubar" Subject: Re: [lucy-list] Lucy's World Tour Of Scotland 2002 No, no, I can't take the review service duties back YET! There's still Donald's contribution to come, I hope...and then we have to see if we can scare up anybody in Colorado or New Mexico for this coming weekend's Lucy shows...but I have learned my lesson and am holding out only mild hope of that...and, oddly, no corporate sponsors have yet offered to finance my travel to these shows even for important review purposes! Anyway, thank you for the fine Scotland review, Jeremy...it got me smiling on a Monday morning in the course of getting ready for work, which is a tricky feat indeed! I am pleased Lucy got such crowds, and such enthusiasm, over there...pleased also that she really IS telling the air guitar story, as well she should! (I still want to hear her tell it, even though I KNOW what happened already!) Although it is only right that she should have such devoted and nice U.K. fans, I'm glad that some of you are on the list...and even if she's not performing over there again for a while, we'll try to be sure you don't go TOO far into Lucy withdrawal! Off to work...still smiling... Oh, and I just saw Simona's post...I will, as my grandmother says (but I like the phrase), "take up a thought" that Lucy will make it to Pittsburgh and/or Rochester before too long! Benay ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 20:48:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Libby Wiebel Subject: Re: [lucy-list] while awaiting more reviews Hmmmm... One of my favorite Lucy quotables was at a show this spring in NC at the Neighborhood Theater. She opened with "He Thinks I Still Care." Then Lucy asked who in the audience had seen her before. A number of people clapped... but for the sake of those who didn't she mentioned that the first song was quite dark... and that she sings a lot of dark songs.... but she said... "Singing sad songs makes me feel good! So... that's what you're in for tonight." And then... she proceeded to give one of the best concerts I'd seen in a looooong time. :) I have to agree.... maybe it's that psycho-therapeutic-cathartic thing.... Whatever. All I know's that I like it. :) Libby ===== libbywiebel@yahoo.com http://www.libbywiebel.com http://mp3.washingtonpost.com/bands/libby_wiebel.shtml "Nothing would ever happen if we always stayed the same." - Nerissa Nields (The Sweetness) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 07:52:34 +0100 From: "donald.anderson" Subject: Re: [lucy-list] Lucy's World Tour Of Scotland 2002 Donald's contribution is coming , but work has got in the way - I'll do my bit tonight , promise ... or is it a threat !? and we got some rare Lucy songs .... , so keep watching Donald ------------------------------ End of lucy-list-digest V4 #232 ******************************* This has been a posting from the Lucy Kaplansky mail list digest To unsubscribe send mail to Majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe lucy-list-digest" in the body of the message