From: owner-lucy-list-digest@smoe.org (lucy-list-digest) To: lucy-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: lucy-list-digest V4 #188 Reply-To: lucy-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-lucy-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-lucy-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk lucy-list-digest Monday, August 19 2002 Volume 04 : Number 188 In this issue: [lucy-list] it's too quiet here [lucy-list] WDIY [lucy-list] Re: WDIY [lucy-list] Re: it's too quiet here Re: [lucy-list] Re: it's too quiet here [lucy-list] NY Times link Re: [lucy-list] Re: it's too quiet here Re: [lucy-list] Re: it's too quiet here Re: [lucy-list] Re: it's too quiet here [lucy-list] the NYT folk article [lucy-list] apropos of nothing [lucy-list] Bad Poetry Re: [lucy-list] Bad Poetry Re: [lucy-list] Bad Poetry ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 11:46:59 -0400 From: "Benay Bubar" Subject: [lucy-list] it's too quiet here So where IS everybody lately? Not on the Lucy-list, obviously. Probably engaged in having LIVES...never fear, contrary to all appearances as it may be, I am thus engaged too. And I guess there have been no Lucy shows for anybody to report on---I misspoke a few days ago about Lucy's schedule, as it looks like it's THIS week she'll be out in California and Nevada. (I think it would be nice if the concert schedule search sites kept an archive of performers' past show dates as well as present and upcoming ones...I don't remember any shows Lucy had scheduled this past week, but there's no way I can think of at this point to check and be sure.) I have nothing really interesting OR Lucy-related (let alone interesting AND Lucy-related) to say today, BUT I am celebrating because it is Turtle Freedom Day! To clarify: it's not the turtles who are free---it is I! No bus to catch at 8 a.m. No sticky apartment key to fuss with for ten minutes before gaining entrance. No hot dogs to mince and mince again. And yes, it's true...Skipper and Sophie, a.k.a. the Annoying Turtles, lasted through the WHOLE week! Not that I've yet talked to the Vacationing Friend since she returned late last night...with my luck, the Turtle Twins might have managed to conk themselves out for good moments before she walked in the door, so technically I could still be receiving an accusatory phone call (all the more reason to be on the computer, posting and tying up my phone line!)...but yesterday morning when I left her apartment, our reptilian pals had tired of their favorite game, Let's Play Dead Just to Freak Benay Out, and were bopping around quite purposefully in their little plastic home. AND, after some thought about my always-slightly-precarious finances and an internal debate in which. luckily, I did NOT enmesh the Lucy-list ("Frivolous! Useful! Frivolous! Useful!") I ended up on "Useful" and put in my official order for a black leather jacket! I think it will be some weeks until I get it...which would be good, because that might mean I'll have some weeks to figure out paying for it. But I am excited. Oh, and I got the treat of seeing Sharon and Suzi for dinner a few nights ago...they seem to be hanging in there, and Sharon's arm gets officially mended tomorrow afternoon. (And so, if there are typos in the indices for the holiday issue of Good Housekeeping, which is what I'm supposed to be working on tomorrow, the adoring public will just have to understand that my mind was on more important things! Oh, wait...this list gets emailed to my work, too, and they can read our email if they want...so of course I meant to say I will be totally concentrating on my copyediting and those indices will be flawless!). Apologies to anyone who is wondering by now if they mistakenly joined the Turtle List, the Leather List, or the Benay's Life Update List rather than the Lucy-list...but I will say that this week I happened to discover something most Mac users have probably known forever: that my work computer, which is set up to announce things to me often, can do so in any of about 20 different voices, some of which even SING...and will in fact say or sing anything I wish to type in. After a few rounds of having it intone, "You are wonderful, Benay!" before telling me my work assignments, and a small discussion with coworkers over whether we could make the computers swear (yes, we ARE adults...and yes, we decided, we COULD make them swear, but it wasn't worth the trouble we could get into), I put my computer's voice back to something fairly pedestrian. But I wished Lucy's were one of the singing voices it offered. I could think of little that would be more cheering in the course of my work day than having my computer sing out in Lucy's voice, "Open your eyes...and look at me!" before declaring, "You have five new assignments..."! Benay ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 14:29:53 EDT From: Cpattersonhome@aol.com Subject: [lucy-list] WDIY Hi, Does anyone have the WDIY studio sessions cd, which includes Lucy, among others? Their website isn't very descriptive. I'm wondering what song she plays and if it's a live version. Anyone know? I'm thinking about buying the cd, but don't know if it would be worthwhile. Chris ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 14:38:13 -0400 From: Don Semmens Subject: [lucy-list] Re: WDIY At 02:29 PM 8/18/2002 -0400, Cpattersonhome@aol.com wrote: >Hi, > >Does anyone have the WDIY studio sessions cd, which includes Lucy, among >others? Their website isn't very descriptive. I'm wondering what song she >plays and if it's a live version. Anyone know? I'm thinking about buying >the cd, but don't know if it would be worthwhile. > >Chris I have this CD, although to be honest I had forgotten about it until a week ago when I was filing my CDs (either I'm anal, or it's because of my library background). Lucy's song is "Ten Year Night" and is a live version recorded 8/10/1998. Other artists on this CD include, John Gorka, Susan Werner, The Nields, The Kennedys, Ellis Paul, Eddie From Ohio, Al Pettaway and Amy White, and Bob Malone (to name a few). I think it's worthwhile, although I haven't listened to it an a long while. Now that I have it out I probably will. :-) don dreaming of blue skies (is) where I wanna be -- Regan Don Semmens; Richmond VA; donsem@attbi.com Buy Regan's new CD "Coming or Going?" http://www.cdbaby.com/reganmusic2 Rob Buck Memorial Scholarship Fund http://gottabuck.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 19:57:31 -0400 From: Donna Myers Subject: [lucy-list] Re: it's too quiet here I thought for sure the NY Times magazine article, "Queer as Folk" would be mentioned here. The link: http://www.nytimes.com/2002/08/18/magazine/FOLK.html Donna ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 20:07:03 -0400 From: Phil Kalina <76106.566@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: [lucy-list] Re: it's too quiet here At 18 Aug 2002 19:57:31 -0400 (edt), Donna wrote: > > I thought for sure the NY Times magazine article, "Queer as Folk" would > be mentioned here. The link: http://www.nytimes.com/2002/08/18/magazine/FOLK.html > > Donna Me too. Am I the last folk fan to learn about Dar Williams', "marriage to a man this spring"? Btw, the correct link is http://www.nytimes.com/2002/08/18/magazine/18FOLK.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 20:05:39 -0400 From: Donna Myers Subject: [lucy-list] NY Times link This is the correct link: http://www.nytimes.com/2002/08/18/magazine/18FOLK.html Donna ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 02:13:18 +0200 From: Dierk Schlie Subject: Re: [lucy-list] Re: it's too quiet here I made a PDF print of it (so you don't have to register...), it is at http://home.snafu.de/dierk.schlie/more/Queer_as_Folk_nytimes_Aug_18_02.zip dierk :-) Phil Kalina wrote: > > At 18 Aug 2002 19:57:31 -0400 (edt), Donna wrote: > > > > I thought for sure the NY Times magazine article, "Queer as Folk" would > > be mentioned here. The link: http://www.nytimes.com/2002/08/18/magazine/FOLK.html > > > > Donna > > Me too. Am I the last folk fan to learn about Dar Williams', "marriage to a man > this spring"? > > Btw, the correct link is http://www.nytimes.com/2002/08/18/magazine/18FOLK.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 20:36:27 -0400 From: Phil Kalina <76106.566@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: [lucy-list] Re: it's too quiet here At 19 Aug 2002 02:13:18 +0200, Dierk wrote: > > I made a PDF print of it (so you don't have to register...), it is at > ... You mean not every Lucy fan reads the NY Times in depth every day? :-) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 02:52:41 +0200 From: Dierk Schlie Subject: Re: [lucy-list] Re: it's too quiet here Phil Kalina wrote: > > At 19 Aug 2002 02:13:18 +0200, Dierk wrote: > > > > I made a PDF print of it (so you don't have to register...), it is at > > ... > > You mean not every Lucy fan reads the NY Times in depth every day? :-) Oooops, living on the other side of the world makes me forget such simple things :-)) dierk ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 21:19:12 -0400 From: "Benay Bubar" Subject: [lucy-list] the NYT folk article > Am I the last folk fan to learn about Dar Williams', "marriage to a man > this spring"? Well, maybe...but that's OK. :-) It gives ME a break from being the last to know about absolutely everything, which is usually the case! Ah, yes, that article...it was a strange one...I thought at first, how neat, folk music getting major media coverage! But what's covered is sure not the entirety of the folk world I've been hanging out in for the last few years. Not that I proclaim myself an expert, because I don't...but the article makes it seem like folk music now consists almost entirely of lesbian singers and lesbian anthems...even Dar was only mentioned in the context of not having made an official statement about her sexuality for so long. And maybe I've been hiding under a rock or something, but it seems to me that some of the singers are gay and some of the singers are straight, and likewise for the audience, and sometimes you know and sometimes you don't and sometimes people speculate, but in either case, it's not generally THE major issue. Not for the people who really care about the music, at least. And the article makes it seem as if there are only a few heterosexual women in folk music (all keeping low profiles as such), and even---shockingly!---a MAN or two (the one they interview, like some sort of secret threatened interloper, refuses to be named). Not a word about even the existence of people like Richard Shindell and John Gorka, whom I certainly don't consider "marginal." And aside from a mention of Christine Lavin, nothing close to an acknowledgement of someone like Lucy, who has never made any bones about having been happily married to Rick for years...and Ten Year Night is probably her best-known song, and Rick (besides being the main protagonist in the famous bug intro!) writes songs with her and has become a welcome fixture at many Lucy shows to those of us who have had the pleasure of meeting him. And OK, so I'm a little bit biased toward Lucy (yeah, Benay, and Mount Everest is a little bit steep...), but I still don't think she's stuck on the fringes of folk music because she doesn't happen to be a lesbian any more than I think her audiences are mostly couples because the fact that she's married alienates single people! I mean, I don't want to denigrate the idea of folk music being a voice for the lesbian community...that has its own truth and is not a bad thing...but to give the impression that that's basically ALL folk music is, as I thought this article did, is to give a narrow view of it indeed. And an inaccurate view too. Oh, and: > You mean not every Lucy fan reads the NY Times in depth every day? :-) Yeah, no kidding---really? I do, except for the sports section; I thought everyone did. Are there truly people who don't? How do they LIVE? I am just barely about to manage to wean myself off home delivery for a few weeks so as to get rid of my spare change by buying it at the newsstand...and I've been known to buy a whole new paper if one of my Sunday sections is missing...it's sad, very sad.... :-) Benay ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 21:35:01 -0400 From: "Benay Bubar" Subject: [lucy-list] apropos of nothing Hey, I just found out that today is National Bad Poetry Day! I am so honored...little did I know they were creating an entire holiday just for me! Take THAT, Famous-ish Conceited Poet whose poetry class I had to drop out of in college because even though he initially declared, "ANY kind of poetry is acceptable here!" he turned out to be unwilling to accept my humorous ode to the campus infirmary as a legitimate submission. (True story.) Hope that somewhere out there, Lucy's dad is rejoicing too. Benay ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 22:15:34 -0400 From: Phil Kalina <76106.566@compuserve.com> Subject: [lucy-list] Bad Poetry At 18 Aug 2002 21:35:01 -0400 (edt), Benay wrote: > > Hey, I just found out that today is National Bad Poetry Day! > ... Oh no--just a couple of hours left! Better hurry: We love you Lucy Oh yes we do ooo We're glad you left psychology Though many of us need therapy too ooo That flying waterbug Rick slew He flushed it down the loo Is that bad enough for you? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 22:49:08 -0400 From: "Benay Bubar" Subject: Re: [lucy-list] Bad Poetry Whoo-hoo! A companion in the celebration! OK, OK, gotta do something in the waning moments of the day itself... There was an admirer of Lucy Who posted until she got woozy, Her posts weren't related, But hey, they were dated, And sometimes they even got newsy! (And this poster, her name was Benay, A name which rhymes well with "hooray" She figures it's true There are other rhymes too... But that must be all for today.) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 23:14:48 -0400 From: Phil Kalina <76106.566@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: [lucy-list] Bad Poetry At 18 Aug 2002 22:49:08 -0400 (edt), Benay wrote: > ... > There was an admirer of Lucy > Who posted until she got woozy, > ... Excellent, very bad! C'mon everyone, just 46 (edt) minutes left. Is that the worst we can do? ------------------------------ End of lucy-list-digest V4 #188 ******************************* This has been a posting from the Lucy Kaplansky mail list digest To unsubscribe send mail to Majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe lucy-list-digest" in the body of the message