From: owner-lucy-list-digest@smoe.org (lucy-list-digest) To: lucy-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: lucy-list-digest V4 #178 Reply-To: lucy-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-lucy-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-lucy-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk lucy-list-digest Thursday, August 8 2002 Volume 04 : Number 178 In this issue: Re: [lucy-list] Re: bats - the conclusion [lucy-list] "Camelot on the Rocks" --new covers for Lucy? [lucy-list] Purpose of waterbugs Re: [lucy-list] Re: bats - the conclusion [lucy-list] the NYT cover story ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 15:26:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Gina Subject: Re: [lucy-list] Re: bats - the conclusion Good luck with the little guy. Maybe he will find his way out by morning and you won't have to do anything. Gina Tom Neff wrote:My soliloquy on bats (and my claim to be over my aversion) have naturally (and literally) come home to roost - there is a 2 inch brown bat IN MY HOUSE at this writing (2:30am) and he is done swooping around my bedroom and is tucked into the joint where one of the exposed ceiling rafters meets the summer beam. Right over the foot of the bed. My choices are to ignore him or try to catch/expel him. Wish me luck. PS after reading up a little, I think I'll just sleep in the guest room and tackle this in the morning... Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 15:13:59 -0500 From: "Timothy Bruce" Subject: [lucy-list] "Camelot on the Rocks" --new covers for Lucy? So news from Tracy is that there will be another Dave Carter tribute at the Philly Pholk Phest. And I would hope there should be even more. I would especially like to hear some of the "written but unrecorded" songs on their rumored FIVE future albums (like an album of all-original Christmas/Solstice tunes) As one who has "adequately" performed the song for over a year now, I would strongly encourage Lucy to try Dave Carter's "Lancelot" if she ever herself in that position. It works well with one voice (unlike many of Dave and Tracy's songs) and it could be the second in a "Camelot on the Rocks" trilogy (with Guineviere and ???). Any suggestions (funny OR serious!) on a third song Lucy might try with a King Arthur angle? Perhaps she can throw them together for her upcoming gigs over the pond! ETimothy (For more on Dave's various unrealized album projects, go to the between song banter during the D&T tribute at FRFF when it becomes available on GrassyHill's website. Because of it's value to the tribute, I doubt that they will edit out the dialogue between songs on that set as they might do with others. By the way, I can hardly wait for that to be available!) LANCELOT Lancelot rode on a swayback mare He won in a card game up north somewhere He was bottom-out lonesome, he was too tired to care Keepin' one step ahead of the rain Well he blew into Broken Bow late last year Talkin' up the vision of his lost Guinevere But he couldn't tell a grail from a glass of beer So he settled for Lady Elaine He sang "Yodelayhee I ain't no untarnished Galahad Down from Arcadia like a dream in your head But gentle lady lend me the true heart I never had And I'll wash the years from your bed With all the salt tears I have shed," Lancelot said Well, mornin' came sleepy and mornin' came slow And the mirror revealed a face she didn't know And the last autumn robin was packin' to go As another year slipped by the way So she rose and she dressed and she pushed back the night She put up her hair by the dawn's early light And the man in her bed was an eagle in flight And a crooked old crow in the hay He sang "Yodelayhee I ain't no untarnished Galahad Down from Arcadia like a dream in your head But gentle lady lend me the true heart I never had And I'll stain the lavenders red With all of this good blood I shed," Lancelot said So bugles blow golden and banners fly blue But these days the castle's just drywall and glue And tiltin' at windmills is the best you can do With the black knight of time on your lawn So I wouldn't know if he left or he stayed Prospered or starved by the promise he made Or maybe he straggled and maybe he strayed While the bright world went barrellin' on Singin' "Yodelayhee I ain't no untarnished Galahad Down from Arcadia like a dream in your head But gentle lady lend me the true heart I never had And I'll bring you roses and bread And we'll fashion gold out of lead With all the illusions we shed," Lancelot said ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 17:05:50 -0400 From: Elwestrand Subject: [lucy-list] Purpose of waterbugs Ok well Lucy did bring it up! The purpose of waterbugs/roaches/scahooties (what I like to call them a name care of an old West Virginian man I knew) is to be scavengers (techinically called detrivores) and eat natures leftovers. The are also food, primarily for nocturnal creatures like possums, racoons, cats and dogs. Sadly my dog (part coyote) tries to eat them when he gets the chance. Luckily I do not have a problem with them in my current house, but have had to deal with them before. I think feral cats eat alot of them. I am betting one of the problems in a place like NYC is that none of their natural predators are there. The do give me the creeps, not as badly as the creepiest of all bugs - the Jerusalem Cricket. Ewwwwww. http://www.sdnhm.org/fieldguide/inverts/sten-fus.html One more reason to live on the East Coast. I have only seen five or six of these in my life. But I have run screaming in the other direction. ;-) Lisa ________________________________________________ Get your own "800" number Voicemail, fax, email, and a lot more http://www.ureach.com/reg/tag ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 17:15:56 EDT From: TRNMT@aol.com Subject: Re: [lucy-list] Re: bats - the conclusion Okay, I have to chime in regarding bats from a public health perspective, at least as far as the New Jersey Department of Health and Human Services goes: http://www.state.nj.us/health/cd/bats.htm Though not common, bats can carry rabies, so please be careful, folks. NT > Tom Neff wrote:My soliloquy on bats (and my claim to be over my aversion) > have naturally > (and literally) come home to roost - there is a 2 inch brown bat IN MY > HOUSE at this writing (2:30am) and he is done swooping around my bedroom > and is tucked into the joint where one of the exposed ceiling rafters meets > the summer beam. Right over the foot of the bed. My choices are to ignore > him or try to catch/expel him. Wish me luck. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 23:50:30 -0400 From: "Benay Bubar" Subject: [lucy-list] the NYT cover story So this week's New York Times Magazine cover story has come up more on other lists, but I feel like saying something about it and I might as well do it here. For whoever hasn't read it, it's about the creation of the latest pop music star, or what this one record company HOPES will be the next big star. Said creation involves the molding of this woman with no particular talent (she's never written a note of music herself) and no individal identity into...well, whatever they think will sell based on her looks and the fact that she has an okay voice. I've just read this thing for the second time, just to see if I'd be as appalled as I was the first time I read it, and I think I was in fact more appalled. Not that it surprises me so much---the only real surprise is that any of the people involved allowed the story to be written, because it portrays them all in such an unflattering way---but that it doesn't surprise me doesn't mean it doesn't upset me. That this 23-year-old woman, whose career is being created from air, could be 10 times as "successful" (in terms of popularity) as Lucy if she's "molded" correctly and gets one song teenagers happen to like, a song she's only singing because somebody wrote it for her and told her to sing it...well, that's just wrong. I mean, in a selfish way I find it nice that Lucy hasn't achieved the kind of "success" that is accompanied by screaming hordes...it's nice to be able to buy tickets to see Lucy without dialing Ticketmaster on three phones at once in order to get through, and it's nice to be able to say hi to her after shows. And I don't just want to say all this to pat myself on the back because I turned away from "popular" music long ago and have never looked back (except when I visit Boston, where they have mainstream stations that have song rotations comprised of more than four songs, unlike New York's non-FUV, non-NPR stations!). Acoustic music, even GREAT acoustic music, isn't everyone's cup of tea, and I'm sure even the acoustic music business isn't all sweetness and light...there is probably scandal and dissent and corruption of which, as a fan, I remain blissfully ignorant. But...back to "the music industry" in general...I just can't believe all this money in the name of music is going to be poured into, and probably made from, this woman (more of a girl, actually---her most frequent spoken word is apparently "Yay!") who has done nothing to merit such investment except sell herself on the basis of an image. Of course money is a factor in "my" music, too---I may be going to see Lucy for free in Huntington tomorrow night, but I know she's not just going to sing there out of the goodness of her heart: somebody's paying her (thank you in advance, Huntington Arts Council, whoever you are!), and there are always CDs for sale. That's the reason she can do what she does in the first place, and she SHOULD be paid---this is her job, and heck, even when I'm enjoying my job (and there are moments when that's true, even if it doesn't always seem that way!), I still expect and need the paycheck. And it's not that Lucy only sings songs she herself has written---she does probably more covers than anyone else whose music I follow, and she has plenty of influences. But overall, Lucy doesn't have anybody telling her who she is musically, and she is the one who has made herself what she is. I may know most of her songs pretty much by heart, and I may know a lot of her intros by heart at this point too---she doesn't usually vary them all that much---but I don't get tired of her or bored by her, and I don't think I've ever left a Lucy show without wishing it had been longer. I get something of real value to me every single time I see Lucy, and every time I listen to her CDs too. I have a hard time explaining just what it IS that I get out of it to anyone who doesn't already know, but it's sure not something "the music industry," as defined by the powers that be, could ever package and sell to me. I found the NYT article fascinating, and I'm glad to have read it (twice), but I'm sorry to be reminded by it that what I get from the music and the artists I support is something a whole lot of people are always going to be too busy chasing the next big star to discover. Benay ------------------------------ End of lucy-list-digest V4 #178 ******************************* This has been a posting from the Lucy Kaplansky mail list digest To unsubscribe send mail to Majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe lucy-list-digest" in the body of the message