From: owner-lucy-list-digest@smoe.org (lucy-list-digest) To: lucy-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: lucy-list-digest V4 #177 Reply-To: lucy-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-lucy-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-lucy-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk lucy-list-digest Wednesday, August 7 2002 Volume 04 : Number 177 In this issue: Re: [lucy-list] you know it's a bad day when... [lucy-list] bats and bugs Re: [lucy-list] you know it's a bad day when... [lucy-list] Roadtrip for Batgirl! [lucy-list] and snakes and scorpions... NLC: Bats (was RE: [lucy-list] you know it's a bad day when) [lucy-list] THAT explains it! Re: [lucy-list] THAT explains it! Re: NLC: Bats (was RE: [lucy-list] you know it's a bad day when) [lucy-list] Fwd: [Dave-and-Tracy] Portland OR Memorial / Philly Performance [lucy-list] Re: bats - the conclusion ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 07:41:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Gina Subject: Re: [lucy-list] you know it's a bad day when... Yeah, bats are very misunderstood creatures. I once read something about how female bats help each other in the birthing process. They lick and dote on the laboring female. One of them was hanging the wrong way for giving birth. She tried and tried while the other bats got nervous. Finally, a few of them hung the proper way to give birth to show her how to do it. Ya gotta love that! They eat bugs and they don't attack humans. Some of them actually have cute little furry faces too. But, like anything else, I wouldn't want them in my house or to be around swarms of them. As for bugs, you can have the cleanest house in the world and get them, especially when you live in apartments and they just make the rounds. *shivers* Gina Tom Neff wrote: I remember a big flat waterbug that got into my little old Upper East Side apartment about 15 years ago, when I had my big purry calico cat Rosie. In NYC if your building is reasonably clean, you can still get the waterbugs via Korean deli grocery bags where they slide in between the plastic and the paper. This one got loose undetected, until about 2am, when Rosie noticed it and went WILD stampeding around the apartment after it in the dim city-glow through the windows. In those days your record collection was still mostly LP's, and I had milkcrates full. She chased the 2-D slitherer down and cornered it between two reggae records: it was powerless to leave, and she was powerless to pursue. It was left up to me to turn on the living room lights and administer a Rasta SQUOOSH. Ewww. These days out at Grassy Hill, waterbugs are unknown but bats are much more my speed. I gave up my aversion when I learned that a brown bat eats its own weight in insects EVERY DAY. Our music barn has three bat houses (they're kind of like inch-deep birdhouses with the slot at the bottom) on the south gable, and this year I think all three are occupied with up to a dozen tenants. If you turn on a single light on a summer night you can lay back in a lawn chair and watch them zig and flit overhead, chowing down. I had one come pretty close the other day, but it was more WOW than YIKES. Don't get me started on snakes!! Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 08:45:36 -0400 From: "Benay Bubar" Subject: [lucy-list] bats and bugs > Well, I am still in great remorse for having fatally > doused with Raid a bat that got into my house > accidentally about 13 years ago, so at this point in > my life, I try to capture all the critters alive and > let them go. > Most of them are more afraid of you than you are of > them. > Deb Bats...yes, bats are good. Bats are nice. I can sympathize with your having killed one once, Deb, because bats didn't have good publicity for a long, long time. But we know now...bats are good. If I had a bat in my home now, knowing what I know these days about bats, I would still want it out, but I would do everything I could to send it peacefully on its merry way (and, preferably, direct it toward Renee's house so it could be fully appreciated by the one and only Batgirl---are you listening, Renee?). And I am normally, in general, one of the biggest pacifists toward living creatures that you can imagine, all for freeing spiders and things that are caught in the wrong place at the wrong time. But waterbugs are...um...DIFFERENT. If they have a useful niche in the natural world, I have yet to be told what it is. They don't consume their weight in anything we want to be rid of, as far as I know. Even if, in some ideal situation, they are consumed by cute little birds (well, actually, you'd need a cute LARGE bird for the job), I am willing to bet waterbugs are not too endangered and whatever eats them can still get its fill even if I am chasing after the ones in my apartment with Raid, bent on destruction. Benay Happily basking in the knowledge that all this is still relevant because there was a bat at a Lucy concert some months back...I wasn't there, but there are witnesses... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 06:06:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Libby Wiebel Subject: Re: [lucy-list] you know it's a bad day when... - --- Tom Neff wrote: > > Don't get me started on snakes!! Eeeeww!!!!! I hate to be so SQUEAMISH about it all... but I don't do snakes... and we've got 'em in the backyard right now! My roommate and I have to take turns on "snake watch" while the other one does the reqquisite watering/mowing/etc.... We heard a report on the news that there are copperheads in our area. Now... being that they looked like plain old greeny-black garter snakes, we were reasonably sure that they weren't copperheads... but we went on the internet to check out some photos... just in case.... I tell you... I had nightmares for DAYS! Keep the snakes and waterbugs... Scorpions are more my style. :) Libby ===== libbywiebel@yahoo.com http://www.libbywiebel.com http://mp3.washingtonpost.com/bands/libby_wiebel.shtml "Nothing would ever happen if we always stayed the same." - Nerissa Nields (The Sweetness) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 09:13:21 -0500 From: "Timothy Bruce" Subject: [lucy-list] Roadtrip for Batgirl! >>>These days out at Grassy Hill.....Our music barn has three bat houses (they're kind of like inch-deep birdhouses with the slot at the bottom) on the south gable, and this year I think all three are occupied with up to a dozen tenants. If you turn on a single light on a summer night you can lay back in a lawn chair and watch them zig and flit overhead<<< Hey Batgirl! Sounds like a roadtrip to me! We'll have to pick a night when they're playing some fine music out there as well! ETimothy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 10:26:05 -0400 From: bbubar@hearst.com Subject: [lucy-list] and snakes and scorpions... Ugh about the snakes, Libby. But I bet chances are they're garter snakes and they're OK...funny, my boss was just telling me last night how as a kid he had a garter snake as a pet and he used to feed it goldfish. He had a certain gleam in his eye, saying it. I wasn't sure I wanted to know. As for scorpions...Lucy's great song notwithstanding, I now have to think of my trip to visit Arizona last year...the friend we were staying with lived in this perfectly lovely, luxurious apartment complex, except she told us to beware of scorpions. So far, she assured us, the scorpions had only been found in the OTHER side of the complex, not hers...but it wasn't that big a complex! One of the favorite places to hide for scorpions, she said, was inside shoes, so always check your shoes before you put them on. We never actually found a scorpion while we were there, so there's no real drama to this story, but one of my vivid memories of Arizona is waking up and eying my shoes with wary suspicion, tentatively picking them up, peering into them, and then shaking them upside down like mad for a good couple of minutes...and STILL taking a deep breath before putting my feet in! I suppose people who actually LIVE there are a little more blase about the whole thing...but if you gave me the choice between scorpions or waterbugs, I think I might still have to pick the waterbugs, much as I really DO hate them! :-) Benay We heard a report on the news that there are copperheads in our area. Now... being that they looked like plain old greeny-black garter snakes, we were reasonably sure that they weren't copperheads... but we went on the internet to check out some photos... just in case.... I tell you... I had nightmares for DAYS! Keep the snakes and waterbugs... Scorpions are more my style. :) Libby ===== libbywiebel@yahoo.com http://www.libbywiebel.com http://mp3.washingtonpost.com/bands/libby_wiebel.shtml "Nothing would ever happen if we always stayed the same." - Nerissa Nields (The Sweetness) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 18:02:47 +0100 From: "Matt Bloomfield" Subject: NLC: Bats (was RE: [lucy-list] you know it's a bad day when) Gina wrote: > Yeah, bats are very misunderstood creatures. I first saw these pics in Reader's Digest but the photographer also has them on his website. They've turned the pictures upside down with interesting results. http://www.timflach.com/bats.html Matt ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 13:55:26 -0500 From: "Timothy Bruce" Subject: [lucy-list] THAT explains it! I'm quite sure I'm not the only one on the Lucy or Dar-Lists that is peeking at the stax archives frequently on my work computer to see if ANYBODY has posted ANYTHING...relevent or otherwise! I'm quite sure it has to do with an extended FRFF withdrawal. For many of us, events such as FRFF are one of the few ways we can put smiling and intelligent faces behind those souls gathered together in this internet community. And when the dirty camping clothes are clean again--the tent aired-out, rolled-up and stored again--it sort of leaves us grasping for something tangible to fill the void.... LUCY CONTENT: This past weekend I visited the Science Museum across the river in St. Paul, where they are currently showing-off their 100 "Lucy on Parade" statues. One of them was a "life size" Lucy in her "Psychiatric Help 5 cents" booth with a stool in front for the subject (me) to sit. IF the photo works (it was with a disposable camera) then I will try to share it with List, perhaps by mailing a hard copy to Kristen for her Lucy site. But what I would REALLY die for is for Bob Feldman or someone else at RedHouse to snap a photo of Lucy on that stool when she's in town next month. Now that would be a scream for the Lucy site photo page! Lucy analyzing Lucy! Bob are you listening? ETimothy in south Minneapolis ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 15:20:53 EDT From: Bn2Synthsz@aol.com Subject: Re: [lucy-list] THAT explains it! In a message dated 8/6/2002 2:55:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, timothybruce@aeromix.com writes: > Lucy > analyzing Lucy! Bob are you listening? > What a great idea! Can't you just see it as the cover of her next CD? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 16:31:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Gina Subject: Re: NLC: Bats (was RE: [lucy-list] you know it's a bad day when) Thanks for the amazing pictures! Matt Bloomfield wrote:Gina wrote: > Yeah, bats are very misunderstood creatures. I first saw these pics in Reader's Digest but the photographer also has them on his website. They've turned the pictures upside down with interesting results. http://www.timflach.com/bats.html Matt Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 00:30:09 EDT From: Pfleary@aol.com Subject: [lucy-list] Fwd: [Dave-and-Tracy] Portland OR Memorial / Philly Performance Thought people on this list would want to see this note from Tracy to the Dave and Tracy list. Return-Path: Received: from rly-ye01.mx.aol.com (rly-ye01.mail.aol.com [172.18.151.198]) by air-ye04.mail.aol.com (v87.21) with ESMTP id MAILINYE42-0806220122; Tue, 06 Aug 2002 22:01:22 2000 Received: from n27.grp.scd.yahoo.com (n27.grp.scd.yahoo.com [66.218.66.83]) by rly-ye01.mx.aol.com (v87.21) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYE11-0806220101; Tue, 06 Aug 2002 22:01:01 -0400 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-2772197-1671-1028685604-pfleary=aol.com@returns .groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.66.96] by n27.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Aug 2002 02:00:05 -0000 X-Sender: tracy@daveandtracy.com X-Apparently-To: dave-and-tracy@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 7 Aug 2002 02:00:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 48228 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2002 02:00:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Aug 2002 02:00:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net) (207.217.120.74) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 2002 02:00:04 -0000 Received: from sdn-ap-002watacop0120.dialsprint.net ([63.187.200.120] helo=[63.187.200.30]) by falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 17cG7H-0003Er-00 for dave-and-tracy@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 06 Aug 2002 19:00:03 -0700 X-Sender: tgrammer@mail.earthlink.net Message-Id: To: dave-and-tracy@yahoogroups.com From: Tracy Grammer MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list Dave-and-Tracy@yahoogroups.com; contact Dave-and-Tracy-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list Dave-and-Tracy@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 19:55:01 -0400 Subject: [Dave-and-Tracy] Portland OR Memorial / Philly Performance Reply-To: Dave-and-Tracy@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Dear friends, Thank you for the continuous outpouring of well-wishes and light. You can't imagine what a comfort your words have been to me and to Elise and to close friends of Dave who are also on this list. Several of us are working on the Portland memorial. We had a very difficult time locating an appropriate venue on such short notice, and my not being home to scout out the venues didn't help matters any. The memorial is TENTATIVELY scheduled for 6:30 pm Friday, August 16 at Cathedral Park in north Portland. I have to jump through a few more administrative hoops before I can confirm this. Sit tight and I'll be back with an update shortly. I have found that when grief strikes hardest, I can still sing. This is a miracle to me. Singing was always a kind of salve for Dave and me when times were tough. Harmonizing on stage was about a bigger, grander alignment, and it never failed us. That it continues to heal, and keeps him close, well -- what a wonderful gift. Someone asked whether I would perform at the Philadelphia Folk Festival. The answer is yes, I plan to be there for a tribute to Dave, which I believe happens early Saturday evening. At the very least, I will play first and last in the set and other performers will contribute their versions of Dave Carter's songs. I am still in awe of Eddie from Ohio's heartbreaking version of "Farewell to St. Dolores" and Chris Smither's gritty "Crocodile Man." I can't wait to see who does what at Philly. Dave would be so, so proud. In peace, in gratitude: Tracy ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ DAVE CARTER & TRACY GRAMMER http://www.daveandtracy.com - ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Free $5 Love Reading Risk Free! Click Here! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Dave-and-Tracy-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 02:41:56 -0400 From: Tom Neff Subject: [lucy-list] Re: bats - the conclusion My soliloquy on bats (and my claim to be over my aversion) have naturally (and literally) come home to roost - there is a 2 inch brown bat IN MY HOUSE at this writing (2:30am) and he is done swooping around my bedroom and is tucked into the joint where one of the exposed ceiling rafters meets the summer beam. Right over the foot of the bed. My choices are to ignore him or try to catch/expel him. Wish me luck. PS after reading up a little, I think I'll just sleep in the guest room and tackle this in the morning... ------------------------------ End of lucy-list-digest V4 #177 ******************************* This has been a posting from the Lucy Kaplansky mail list digest To unsubscribe send mail to Majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe lucy-list-digest" in the body of the message