From: owner-lucy-list-digest@smoe.org (lucy-list-digest) To: lucy-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: lucy-list-digest V4 #170 Reply-To: lucy-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-lucy-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-lucy-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk lucy-list-digest Wednesday, July 31 2002 Volume 04 : Number 170 In this issue: [lucy-list] Lucy & Greg at Falcon Ridge [lucy-list] No one has said this yet.... Re: [lucy-list] No one has said this yet.... [lucy-list] falcon ridge Re: [lucy-list] falcon ridge Re: [lucy-list] falcon ridge Re: [lucy-list] falcon ridge [lucy-list] My Name Joe at Falcon Ridge [lucy-list] More thoughts about Lucy and Greg [lucy-list] re: summerfest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 10:35:50 -0400 (EDT) From: kelli@fumblers.org Subject: [lucy-list] Lucy & Greg at Falcon Ridge Yes, I too am reluctantly returning to "real life" post-Falcon Ridge. It was another wonderful weekend made even more memorable for me by the Dave Carter tribute. (btw, there are some photos of that performance up at www.daveandtracy.com; also, Mark Erelli will be posting his rendition of "Cowboy Singer" as an MP3 at www.markerelli.com.) But I wanted to mention for those who had to leave after Lucy's mainstage set that she managed to work her way onstage to support Greg Brown during his. The highlight of that was their duet on Gershwin's "Summertime". Incredible. Torchy songs like that really make the most of her voice. Onward until the Rocky Folks Festival in just over 2 weeks! ~Kelli ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 10:49:37 -0500 From: "Timothy Bruce" Subject: [lucy-list] No one has said this yet.... It appears many of you turned tail and ran right after Lucy's set and missed the final two acts of the weekend. While you saved a heckuva delay in driving out of the festival grounds (we watched the gridlock below from Camp Dar for over an hour and a half!) you inadvertently missed one of my favorite Lucy and Rick moments of the weekend. As many of the Listers present may recall, I scurried back to my tent during Jeff Lang's "pre-Lucy set" to retrieve the "I LOVE LUCY" calender my wife gave me for Christmas. It was very well received and, when Donna saw Rick Litvin walking past our tarp, we jumped up to catch and show him. He found it highly amusing to say the least especially the picture of Lucille Ball, (with Lucy's face pasted-over), trying to prepare a home-cooked meal...."In my dreams..." he laughed. He was adamant that Lucy would have to see this, too. Just before Lucy was to go on, I went a-looking. Not to accomplish the objective cause I knew she would have her mind on her set, but rather to mention to her my intentions. I found her in about fifteen steps--waiting in line backstage for the porta.....uh, you get the picture. I said I know this is a poor time to chat, but could you later....blah blah blah. She said meet me after the set at the signing table. The set came and went fabulously and I scurried over to the signing table, figuring it would be awhile. When Greg Brown started his set, I moved up the hill where I could clearly see both the table and Greg. Time passed in great quantity---still no Lucy. I began to have my doubts. I figured I'd see her in September anyway--I'd just show her then. I decided to walk back by way of the backstage area. Well, there they were! Standing right next to the backstage door. She apologized as I approached, saying that she was standing around waiting to hear Greg sing some song she knew and just as she reached out for the calendar, she shrieked, "He's playing one now!" and ran off. Rick followed with his video camera. The scene in front of the mainstage was frenetic! Greg Brown (the most requested performer in the history of Falcon Ridge) was on and Ani Difranco was up next (with her legion of vocal fans were chipping away at whatever order had been maintained in front of the stage all weekend). And then there was Lucy singing harmony on "Small Dark Movie" and two other Greg songs as he concluded his set. Lucy literally walked off of the stage in front of thousands and thousands of screaming fans and back over to me, as if it was just as important as what she had just been doing. She did enjoy the calendar. She wouldn't sign it "To Yvonne, You're a nut!" as I suggested but rather, "To Yvonne. This is awesome. You're the best!" Which I'm sure, in retrospect was a better move for all concerned. I've got to do some work around here but first, a final word about Dave Carter and his presence. I got to do two Dave songs live for Camp Dar and repeated one at a Dave memorial song swap Saturday night (with many from Camp Dar in attendance). But the most wonderous moments for me were when Pete Kennedy announced from the mainstage that Dave "was the best of us" singer songwriters and "a shaman too". And that at some point during this festival, he would visit us and "we'd all look up in the sky and see a shooting star and think 'That was from Dave'". Well, I do believe in signs but don't believe in requesting them ahead of time! Besides it had been overcast for nearly the whole festival to that point with more clouds in sight. But the next night, just after leaving the Dave songswap, and while Railroad Earth was closing the mainstage, with the full moon rising into a recently cleared sky over the mainstage and during their song "Walk On By", a great big shooting star streaked over the stage next to the moon. They then finished their set and, because they were the last act of the night, they got to do an encore. They came out and did Dave's "When I Go" which, for the initiated, is about the signs the departed shaman would leave after he has left us. They had just learned the song that day. It was my most moving moment of a very moving day. Thanks to Benay for doing such a thorough and erudite job of reviewing the weekend. It takes the heat off of the rest of us so that we can share these little things. ETimothy in south Minneapolis ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 12:11:57 -0400 From: bbubar@hearst.com Subject: Re: [lucy-list] No one has said this yet.... Wow, thanks for sharing that, Timothy and Kelli (and I'm glad your calendar went over well, Timothy!). I'm not too surprised about Lucy's being in Greg's set because I had figured that there was SOME possibility that sort of thing might happen, and I'm incredibly sad to have missed it. But given the uncertainties of traffic and general exhaustion (and the fact of having several difficult 12-hour workdays ahead of me...in which I am currently ensconced), my friends and I had to leave right after Lucy's set... It sounds like it was great, though...glad some of you were able to stay and experience it. AAK! Back to work! Benay ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 14:12:31 EDT From: Sdgold60@aol.com Subject: [lucy-list] falcon ridge hey lucy list what can i add that hasnt been said... Lucy put on a solid performance at every workshop and at every stage she was asked.. Friday's song swap was uneven and needed an artist that was willing to participate more with the others.. erin tried a HUM a long.. Chris smither never joined another artist .. not a note.. greg brown was coaxed by Lucy to play along and sing along.. the joy of the SWAP is to watch a Swap..one that denotes interaction.. Lucy dear Lucy tried to get others going.. they didnt seem welcoming to her joining in on harmonies.. i think that there was an opportunity lost...it was a showcase.. not a swap...there guitarists and Lucy with her magnificent talents... and NOt an interchange Lucy at her roots... Lucy was having a blast.. she sat with Kris delmhorst and Mark erelli.. and was a harmony monger.. she and Kris joined greg brown, jimmy lafave ( on positively 4th street) Lucy"s Someday soon was augmented by jimmy, the banjo from the paperboys, two electric guitars.. Lucy welcomed and encourages others to sing and play.. always announcing hte key... she had kris and nerissa on harmony... it was stunning... Lucy at the beatles workshop...Im glad it wasnt Here comes the sun or ive just seen a face.. to see Lucy join all of Eddie from Ohio on nowhere man is also a treat...Lucy again solicited involvement and nerissa sang along the guitars were on fire and pete and maura joined in...too Lucy in her own set... Lucy was at one of her best.. the set list was posted Lucy who didnt play FRFF til two years.. ago.. earned her place as a headliner and a professional and she made it even more fun for us. watching.. she also was available and could be seen chatting and signing things from the workshop area to the run away ... to sitting with donna for the D&T tribute.. Lucy was there.. for FRFF... sharon There's a gypsy down on Bleecker Street I went in to see her as a kind of joke And she lit a candle for my love luck And eighteen bucks went up in smoke ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 15:08:55 -0400 From: bbubar@hearst.com Subject: Re: [lucy-list] falcon ridge I'm glad you mentioned that about the song swap, Sharon...I felt the same way about its not being nearly as interactive as it could have been...then I wondered if maybe I was just remembering wrong from past years and misinterpreting what it was supposed to be. So I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who felt that way. Lucy did try, though, and she was great---the others just didn't make the effort with her. And on a non-FRFF note, Dar Williams was interviewed this afternoon on WNYC that I actually managed to hear most of (a consolation prize for me who can't get out of work to go see her downtown tonight even though it's FREE...sigh) and she talked about September 11th and how we look to the pundits for wisdom but really the most important understanding ends up coming through things like conversations with taxi drivers...and it's true, she could've just happened to say that, but I thought, hmmm, I know somebody who put that particular idea in a song already... Benay ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 17:56:55 EDT From: Bn2Synthsz@aol.com Subject: Re: [lucy-list] falcon ridge In a message dated 7/30/2002 3:10:32 PM Eastern Standard Time, bbubar@hearst.com writes: > I'm glad you mentioned that about the song swap, Sharon...I felt the same > way about its not being nearly as interactive as it could have been...then > I wondered if maybe I was just remembering wrong from past years and > misinterpreting what it was supposed to be. So I'm glad to know I'm not the > only one who felt that way. Lucy did try, though, and she was great---the > others just didn't make the effort with her. > I wasn't at Falcon Ridge but I know what you're saying about workshop stages. They're so much more fun when all the artists help each other out. Lucy didn't do any guitar playing and very little backup on the workshop stages at the New Bedford Summerfest. The Kennedys, on the other hand, jump right in there and experiment. Tres cool. Kath ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 16:17:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Deb Woodell Subject: Re: [lucy-list] falcon ridge Sharon noted, Chris smither > never joined another artist .. not a note.. I noticed the same thing. And I definitely thought Greg Brown chose songs he hoped Chris would play along with. Not to dis Chris, because I like his stuff, but I was disappointed he didn't work and play well with others. As for my overall first Falcon Ridge experience, it was extraordinary! Thanks to everyone who made me feel incredibly welcome. I hung with Nields Nookers, Dar- and Lucy-listers, folks of all sorts, and even some folks from my church that I ran into atop the hill near the Nields camp....which makes a great gin-and-tonic, by the way. First of all, as exciting as it might be to hear one's name called from the mainstage, let me tell you, it depends on the circumstances. Anyway, for those who heard my name Friday and were wondering, it was an emergency at home involving our pool, but I talked Fran through it, so everything is fine! Or as fine as it will be until I fix the leaky hose. And then it will be fine again. As for the music from the stages, I ended up mostly at the mainstage, but did hear some of the workshops. Among my many many musical highlights, the most pleasant surprise would have to be DaVinci's Notebook; they were terrific! I also had not really heard EFO, and loved them, too. And a huge thrill was seeing The Kennedys live. My first TK record was "Positively Live," so it was way cool to see who plays what on some of the songs, especially "Sirens/Live Is Large." And having seen Erin McKeown only as part of Voices on the Verge, it was cool to see her in a regular set. I thought Lucy was terrific, as well. I'm still fairly a novice at Lucy shows, but she was fine, in my book. I think Jen Moore and I became recorded for posterity when Rick was videotaping the crowd. We waved, for all to see! My first Ani experience was enjoyable, too. A little dicey saving space for Jen and Nicole, when they went for food during Greg Brown, but otherwise OK. And finally, I have to say the Dave Carter tribute was a phenomenal, moving experience. I saw Tracy backstage and it was touching to see how she responded to the music. And everyone sounded wonderful on those songs. Dave's music has been special to me ever since I heard it, and it was a fitting tribute. I also was moved by the shrine on the grounds. I left a message in the notebook and expressed my condolences to Tracy. She is a remarkable woman. All in all, my first FRFF was truly wonderful. I was immersed in the love, friendship, community and camaraderie of the entire weekend! Can't wait till next year! Deb ===== You can take the rock band away from the girl and think you've tamed her. But, she'll just pick up an acoustic, give you that innocent little girl grin, quietly laugh and say? "Nevah!" Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 21:53:27 -0400 From: bbubar@hearst.com Subject: [lucy-list] My Name Joe at Falcon Ridge One more interesting little thing I forgot to mention about Falcon Ridge: at the start of his main stage set, David Massengill did My Name Joe, which of course was his song originally. He mentioned that it was the song of his that had been most recorded by others, and he mentioned Lucy prominently among those who had covered it. Unfortunately, I didn't get to hear very much of his version because I was racing to the other stage...one of those difficult choices of which Falcon Ridge always presents a few. (Ah, the mental gymnastics of figuring out where to be...Lucy trumps everybody else, the Nields win when there's no Lucy available...but why do they ALWAYS put Chris & Meredith Thompson against something else I can't stand to miss?) But anyway, I got to hear at least a little bit of My Name Joe from David Massengill, and it was very different from Lucy's version, which had been the only version I'd heard before. I liked his, too---what I heard of it---but what struck me most was how odd it seemed to hear a male voice doing that song, even though he was the songwriter and if you just saw the lyrics you might well assume it would logically be in a male voice. I found it fascinating to realize how much the song remained Lucy's in my mind even after hearing a bit of the original! Benay who realizes this may not be all THAT interesting to anyone else but herself, but who has been at work nearly 13 hours today and at this point would probably post an analysis of the texture of the grass at Falcon Ridge if it would provide a little more mental escape! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 23:38:18 -0500 From: etimo@usfamily.net Subject: [lucy-list] More thoughts about Lucy and Greg >Ah darn! I hoped that this wouldn't become a recounting the "Shoot! I missed THAT?!" moments. For starters, I actually could not hear Greg and Lucy singing from backstage, where I was waiting. I figured Lucy would be on for one quickie and off, considering how dis-interested Greg was in having any vocal assistance from anyone prior to that point. (To his credit, he often welcomed instrumental assistance from others.) On the first night, I was frustrated that he would not risk scratching his verneer of "cool" by helping Lucy out--even though he and Lucy are probably the two top sellers on the Red House label. I felt a "do I have to?" vibe from him on TYN and this is coming from a very early and fervent Greg Brown fan--my first folk festivals ever were the Red House "summerfolk" days in which all of the Red House artists had to show up and play together in various configurations all day. This was back in the mid 80's...before Lucy. I actually learned half a dozen Greg songs back then (but I couldn't sing and play them at the same time, reducing their worth!) These days--on stage at least--Mr. Brown seems to have supressed whatever feminine side he had once touched. Someone else put it this way: "He is a guy's guy". Well that certainly seems to be his ACT now--the same guy that once wrote "Canned Goods" and "Spring Breeze".... As for Lucy NOT contributing vocally at New Bedford when Pete and Maura openly contributed instrumentally one might naturally ask if THEY knew the words to the song!? It is a very special trust to be invited by a songwriter to share the vocals on one of their tunes because they are precious to the songwriter and easily disrupted by someone unfamiliar. A guitarist of Pete and Maura's calibre, however, can usually jump into any musical space offered to them and crank out a servicable guitar solo. They are indeed fabulous at what they do. This might explain what Kath witnessed in New Bedford. Or perhaps Lucy wasn't particularly moved that time out. Furthermore, I don't think any of us would expect her to jump in and do a guitar lead on someone else's song like Pete and Maura would we? What I can say I witnessed at that FRFF song swap was Lucy TRYING to get the act of sharing going--with little result. I am certain that her effort to do this further endeared her to the FRFF organizers. I have often said that Lucy plays the Folk Festival game the way it was intended--trying to fit songs into the workshop theme, freely offering her vocal harmonies to others, and above all, being genuinely THERE even when not on-stage. Like joining us on one of our tarps. So I was proved wrong when Lucy got called up to actually share the limelight with Greg. And I was wrong to not try to curl around to see the front of the stage until they was nearly finished. So what else did they do besides "Small Dark Movie" (which I THOUGHT I heard) and "Summertime" (which I didn't hear)? Anybody out there know? - ------ http://USFamily.Net/info - Unlimited Internet - From $8.99/mo! ------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 02:14:45 -0400 From: richard rosenbloom Subject: [lucy-list] re: summerfest i had the great pleasure to be at summerfest this year and maybe it was different from the one "kath" was at... i heard lucy sing with, among others, susan werner (who also sang with livingston taylor at the sunday night closing concert!), cliff eberhardt (at least 2 of her songs and one of his) and several numbers with richard shindell, both in workshop and the first 2 numbers of richard's mainstage solo set, 'til she had to go run to another workshop. lucy was out there! smiling, singing and enjoying the moment as #1!! I had a great time! Return-Path: Received: from mx01.mrf.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.4.50] [207.172.4.50]) by mta01.mrf.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP id <20020730215713.WHUG336.mta01.mrf.mail.rcn.net@mx01.mrf.mail.rcn.net>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 17:57:13 -0400 Received: from jane.smoe.org ([199.201.145.78] helo=smoe.org) by mx01.mrf.mail.rcn.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #5) id 17ZezR-00072u-00; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 17:57:13 -0400 Received: from smoe.org (ident-user@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smoe.org (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g6ULv03C017453 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 17:57:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by smoe.org (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g6ULv0lp017452 for lucy-list-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 17:57:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imo-m07.mx.aol.com (imo-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.162]) by smoe.org (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g6ULuw3C017408 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 17:56:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Bn2Synthsz@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id p.f5.1f9412b6 (30950) for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 17:56:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Bn2Synthsz@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 17:56:55 EDT Subject: Re: [lucy-list] falcon ridge To: lucy-list@smoe.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10513 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 0.97c X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-lucy-list@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: lucy-list@smoe.org X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 In a message dated 7/30/2002 3:10:32 PM Eastern Standard Time, bbubar@hearst.com writes: > I'm glad you mentioned that about the song swap, Sharon...I felt the same > way about its not being nearly as interactive as it could have been...then > I wondered if maybe I was just remembering wrong from past years and > misinterpreting what it was supposed to be. So I'm glad to know I'm not the > only one who felt that way. Lucy did try, though, and she was great---the > others just didn't make the effort with her. > I wasn't at Falcon Ridge but I know what you're saying about workshop stages. They're so much more fun when all the artists help each other out. Lucy didn't do any guitar playing and very little backup on the workshop stages at the New Bedford Summerfest. The Kennedys, on the other hand, jump right in there and experiment. Tres cool. Kath ------------------------------ End of lucy-list-digest V4 #170 ******************************* This has been a posting from the Lucy Kaplansky mail list digest To unsubscribe send mail to Majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe lucy-list-digest" in the body of the message