From: owner-lucy-list-digest@smoe.org (lucy-list-digest) To: lucy-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: lucy-list-digest V4 #165 Reply-To: lucy-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-lucy-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-lucy-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk lucy-list-digest Monday, July 22 2002 Volume 04 : Number 165 In this issue: Re: [lucy-list] Freeport...and Dave Carter Re: [lucy-list] Freeport...and Dave Carter [lucy-list] Sunday Breakfast interview? Re: [lucy-list] Freeport...and Dave Carter Re: [lucy-list] Freeport...and Dave Carter [lucy-list] Fw: Dave Carter Re: [lucy-list] Sunday Breakfast interview? Re: [lucy-list] Sunday Breakfast interview? [lucy-list] I'm taken care of [lucy-list] song ? Re: [lucy-list] song ? Re: [lucy-list] song ? [lucy-list] sound check [lucy-list] apropos of nothing Re: [lucy-list] apropos of nothing [lucy-list] Hidden Track ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 05:41:41 -0400 From: fair325@juno.com Subject: Re: [lucy-list] Freeport...and Dave Carter Please tell me that Dave Carter did not die. Could someone either deny or confirm this ? Thank you. Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 07:09:29 -0500 From: "Richard Hill" Subject: Re: [lucy-list] Freeport...and Dave Carter Sorry, but yes it is true. John Platt will play an interview this morning (WFUV) that was recorded just a few days ago, before Dave and Tracy headed on up to Massachusetts. It will be a very special "CityFolk Sunday Breakfast". Below is the report from The Oregonian (Portland, OR): <> ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 10:57:23 -0400 From: "Benay Bubar" Subject: [lucy-list] Sunday Breakfast interview? I woke up late, not knowing about that last Sunday Breakfast interview with Dave and Tracy, and heard only the tail end, with the beautiful song "Mother I Climbed." I realize this may not be the right place to ask, but I was never on the Dave and Tracy list...did anybody record that interview? I'd love to get a copy of it. And thanks for posting the news article. Wasn't glad to see it, of course...but it put to rest that last bit of doubt, and that needed to happen. Benay ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 08:02:07 -0500 From: " Gina" Subject: Re: [lucy-list] Freeport...and Dave Carter Thanks for the article, Richard. It is indeed a sad note that another one has been struck in their career prime. Isn't it interesting that, like Lucy, Math and Psychology are in his past? - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Hill" To: Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 7:09 AM Subject: Re: [lucy-list] Freeport...and Dave Carter > Sorry, but yes it is true. John Platt will play an interview this morning > (WFUV) that was recorded just a few days ago, before Dave and Tracy headed > on up to Massachusetts. It will be a very special "CityFolk Sunday > Breakfast". > > Below is the report from The Oregonian (Portland, OR): > > < > 07/20/02 > > MARTY HUGHLEY > > For the past few years Portland music fans have enjoyed watching the local > duo of Dave Carter and Tracy Grammer rise from small gigs around town to > award-winning performances at prestigious festivals to national tours and > rave reviews. > That ascent was cut short Friday by Carter's sudden death from a heart > attack at a hotel in Massachusetts. > Carter, 49, died at about 9 a.m. Pacific Daylight Time after jogging, > according to his manager, Biff Kennedy. The duo was preparing to perform > today at the Green River Festival in Greenfield, Mass. > Kennedy said no memorial arrangements yet been made as yet. Grammer was > unavailable late Friday for comment. > Kennedy received dozens of phone calls Friday afternoon from all around the > United States, from admirers including Joan Baez, the folk music legend who > invited the duo to tour with her last spring and had added several of > Carter's songs to her repertoire. > In a Boston Globe interview last September, Baez lauded Carter's rare > ability to write songs that can be readily interpreted by other singers. > "It's a kind of genius, you know, and (Bob) Dylan has the biggest case of > it," she said. "But I hear it in Dave's songs, too. There's a very > sophisticated feel to the songs. Dave is masterful with words, and there's a > real spiritual connection in there; nothing direct, it's in the imagery, and > that really rings bells with me." > "He's probably going to end up becoming one of those legendary guys," said > John Malloy, who had booked several Portland shows by the duo. "He died at > his most prolific period, when he was being discovered by a lot of people." > Carter was a superb musician, with voice, guitar and banjo, but was most > praised as a songwriter. Staff writer John Foyston wrote in The Oregonian > last year, "Carter skitters across the language like a water bug but can > plunge to depths of the heart and soul without so much as a splash." > Carter and Grammer, who also brought vocals as well as violin to the duo, > recorded their first album, 1998's independently released "When I Go," in > Grammer's kitchen. But their career quickly advanced from such modest > circumstances. They soon won the New Folk category at the Kerrville Folk > Festival, the sort of victory that had helped launch the careers of Lyle > Lovett and Robert Earl Keen, and they went on to top honors at the Napa > Valley Music Festival and the Wildflower Performing Songwriter Competition. > The albums "Tanglewood Tree" in 2000 and last year's "Drum Hat Buddha" were > well-reviewed and earned the duo a strong national following. > Carter was born Aug. 13, 1952, in Oxnard, Calif., and raised in Oklahoma and > Texas. Though he played and studied music since boyhood, he worked as a > mathematician and computer programmer, and he studied Jungian psychology > until a 1994 epiphany led him to seriously pursue a music career. He and > Grammer began performing together in early 1998. > Survivors include father Robert Carter of Tulsa, Okla., and sister Elise > Fischer of Lawrence, Kan. > Local music promoter Lisa Lepine, who formerly managed the duo, recalled > hearing Carter speak in a songwriting seminar earlier this month at Lewis & > Clark College. He described songwriting as "the tongue of angels" and said > that his work was "to learn the song from God, then write it down so > everyone can hear it." > "It's a huge loss," Lepine said. "Dave had a lot more work to do. But he's > with the angels now, though, speaking in their tongue." >> ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 08:14:29 -0700 (PDT) From: rpniew Subject: Re: [lucy-list] Freeport...and Dave Carter I am completely "bummed out" about this. I just heard about it last night on WFMT's "Midnight Special". Dave was an intersting and extremely creative artist and, on the one occasion that I met him after a show, apparently a really decent guy, filled with humility. He and Tracy were good enough to autograph my cd cover, which I have framed up on the wall with my others. This is a real shame. Also, by the way, Alan Lomax passed away Friday. rick - --- fair325@juno.com wrote: > Please tell me that Dave Carter did not die. Could > someone either deny or > confirm this ? Thank you. Kevin Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 10:10:57 -0500 From: " Gina" Subject: [lucy-list] Fw: Dave Carter Here is a mailing that went out to Darryl Purpose's mailing list. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darryl Purpose" To: "friends of dp" Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 10:56 AM Subject: Dave Carter > Dave Carter, friend an inspiration to me, died of a heart attack this > past Friday in Hadley Massachusetts. Tracy was at his side - she > says it was quick and he wasn't afraid. If Dave or Dave's music > meant something to you and you'd like to send a note to Tracy - > tracy@daveandtracy.com. I know that she's reading these and finding > some comfort in them, so don't be shy. > > I've been saying for years that Dave was the best songwriter I know. > In some ways he was so other-worldly that nothing has changed, but of > course, everything has changed and it's an incredibly sad time here. > > I hope you all are safe and with the ones you love. > > Darryl > > > If you see my wandering form out on the borderline > between death and resurrection and the council of the pines > Do not worry for my comfort, do not sorrow for me so > All your diamond tears will rise up and adorn the sky beside > me, when I go. > > ~Dave Carter "When I Go" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 12:39:49 -0700 (PDT) From: simona loberant Subject: Re: [lucy-list] Sunday Breakfast interview? benay, i recordeded all but the first three to five minutes. I"m swamped right now but if you remind me I'll send it your way. Benay Bubar wrote:I woke up late, not knowing about that last Sunday Breakfast interview with Dave and Tracy, and heard only the tail end, with the beautiful song "Mother I Climbed." I realize this may not be the right place to ask, but I was never on the Dave and Tracy list...did anybody record that interview? I'd love to get a copy of it. And thanks for posting the news article. Wasn't glad to see it, of course...but it put to rest that last bit of doubt, and that needed to happen. Benay Simona L. Loberant Since November 2000, there have been more than 11,000 unprovoked terror attacks against Israel. www.isupportisrael.net "Every now and then go away, even briefly, have a little relaxation, for when you come back to your work your judgment will be surer; since to remain constantly at work will cause you to lose power." **Leonardo da Vinci Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 12:39:55 -0700 (PDT) From: simona loberant Subject: Re: [lucy-list] Sunday Breakfast interview? benay, i recordeded all but the first three to five minutes. I"m swamped right now but if you remind me I'll send it your way. Benay Bubar wrote:I woke up late, not knowing about that last Sunday Breakfast interview with Dave and Tracy, and heard only the tail end, with the beautiful song "Mother I Climbed." I realize this may not be the right place to ask, but I was never on the Dave and Tracy list...did anybody record that interview? I'd love to get a copy of it. And thanks for posting the news article. Wasn't glad to see it, of course...but it put to rest that last bit of doubt, and that needed to happen. Benay Simona L. Loberant Since November 2000, there have been more than 11,000 unprovoked terror attacks against Israel. www.isupportisrael.net "Every now and then go away, even briefly, have a little relaxation, for when you come back to your work your judgment will be surer; since to remain constantly at work will cause you to lose power." **Leonardo da Vinci Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 16:55:10 -0400 From: "Benay Bubar" Subject: [lucy-list] I'm taken care of Thanks to those who offered to send me a copy of the Dave and Tracy Sunday Breakfast interview...I'm set with that now, or soon will be. My wish list next time I have some spending money includes a CD burner and/or a tape recorder/dubber so I will be able to return the favor in such instances (only for individual private use and not to do anything that would undermine anything the artists are selling, I hasten to mention!). Incidentally, I want to say that I really do appreciate in general how often people on this list have come through for me when I've asked about rides and recordings of things I've missed hearing...I don't make such requests lightly, and I don't take the responses for granted. It's a good and generous group of people who happen to have coalesced around Lucy, and I'm very grateful to be able to be a part of it. And thanks, Gina, for forwarding the information from Darryl Purpose about writing to Tracy Grammer. (It is, by the way, indeed very interesting about Lucy's and Dave's both having math and psychology in their backgrounds; I'd never known that.) I'd been wanting to write something to Tracy but hadn't thought about how or been sure it would be all right. I did so today, and it made me feel just a little bit better. Benay ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 17:53:31 -0400 From: Bill Stewart Subject: [lucy-list] song ? I do have a question concerning the song lucy was playing during the sound check. If it's a lucy song, I have effectively blanked it from my mind, which is very possible. It went SOMETHING like "You stole my money, but you didn't steal my heart" ....... "the jester's in the courtyard" TAI BIll ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 19:54:05 -0400 From: "Benay Bubar" Subject: Re: [lucy-list] song ? Hmmm...intriguing...can't think of any Lucy songs like that. Could it have been "Wedding Song" by Bob Dylan? Or "Gypsy" by Suzanne Vega? http://www.bobdylan.com/songs/wedding.html http://www.yimpan.com/Songsite/Lyric/lyric2text.asp?sid=3365 Neither looks exactly like what you quoted, but both have the words "courtyard" and "jester" in them, and there can't be TOO many hundreds of songs fitting that description! Benay who has no actual idea and has never heard either of the above songs but really did have nothing better to do at the moment than an Internet search for "courtyard jester song" P.S. There will be a Falcon Ridge tribute to Dave Carter in Dave and Tracy's time slot, as is now posted at www.falconridgefolk.com. Not an easy thing to pull together, I'm sure, but I'm glad they are doing so---it seems like exactly the right thing under the circumstances. - ---------- >From: Bill Stewart >To: "lucy-list@smoe.org" >Subject: [lucy-list] song ? >Date: Sun, Jul 21, 2002, 5:53 PM > > I do have a question concerning the song lucy was playing during the > sound check. If it's a lucy song, I have effectively blanked it from my > mind, which is very possible. > > It went SOMETHING like "You stole my money, but you didn't steal my > heart" ....... "the jester's in the courtyard" > > TAI > > BIll ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 20:55:27 -0400 From: Bill Stewart Subject: Re: [lucy-list] song ? Benay Bubar wrote: > Hmmm...intriguing...can't think of any Lucy songs like that. Could it have > been "Wedding Song" by Bob Dylan? Or "Gypsy" by Suzanne Vega? > > http://www.bobdylan.com/songs/wedding.html > > http://www.yimpan.com/Songsite/Lyric/lyric2text.asp?sid=3365 > > Neither looks exactly like what you quoted, but both have the words > "courtyard" and "jester" in them, and there can't be TOO many hundreds of > songs fitting that description! > Maybe someone will have a better idea, neither one was the song. Thanks for the try though. Bill ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 21:27:30 EDT From: Sdgold60@aol.com Subject: [lucy-list] sound check i have been searching for the lyrics to "on the road to fairfax county" and cant find them.. lucy has been known to sing this david massengill song in sound check lately... she has checked with her own songs.. but .. Joni mitchell has made an appearance in sound check...too sharon... oh.. ask her at FRFF ... There's a gypsy down on Bleecker Street I went in to see her as a kind of joke And she lit a candle for my love luck And eighteen bucks went up in smoke ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 21:32:26 -0400 From: "Benay Bubar" Subject: [lucy-list] apropos of nothing I just have to share my excitement at the fact that I have FINALLY managed to play, on MY little music system, the hidden track on Flesh and Bone, I've Just Seen a Face! (Yeah, great, Benay...you really think the whole Lucy-list cares? The CD has, after all, been out for quite a while, and other people, obviously, have managed to do this too.) No, see, you don't understand the momentousness here. I've had this same little music setup (personal CD player connected to radio) for HOW many years now---three, four? And I've been trying periodically to play that hidden track, and occasionally complaining to anyone who will listen about my inability to do so except at my parents' house, for HOW many years now---three, four? And then, after my unsuccessful search for the song Bill heard, still having nothing much better to do, I happened to remember Donna's mentioning to me back in Englewood a couple of weeks ago that she'd thought she couldn't play I've Just Seen a Face at first too, but then she'd done it...and I thought, well, what the heck, one more clearly futile attempt... EUREKA! And so, the deep dark mysterious secret to successfully playing the song on MY little CD player turned out to be...holding down the "Back" button. (C'mon, Benay, you've been trying to do this simple little thing for years and you never tried holding down the "Back" button before?) Apparently not. So I'm an idiot. But a happy idiot...who is now listening, at home, to I've Just Seen a Face as sung by the one and only Lucy Kaplansky. :-) Benay ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 21:46:31 -0400 From: "CarolellenNorskey" Subject: Re: [lucy-list] apropos of nothing where's the secret track? - ----- Original Message ----- From: Benay Bubar To: Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 9:32 PM Subject: [lucy-list] apropos of nothing > I just have to share my excitement at the fact that I have FINALLY managed > to play, on MY little music system, the hidden track on Flesh and Bone, I've > Just Seen a Face! > > (Yeah, great, Benay...you really think the whole Lucy-list cares? The CD > has, after all, been out for quite a while, and other people, obviously, > have managed to do this too.) > > No, see, you don't understand the momentousness here. I've had this same > little music setup (personal CD player connected to radio) for HOW many > years now---three, four? And I've been trying periodically to play that > hidden track, and occasionally complaining to anyone who will listen about > my inability to do so except at my parents' house, for HOW many years > now---three, four? > > And then, after my unsuccessful search for the song Bill heard, still having > nothing much better to do, I happened to remember Donna's mentioning to me > back in Englewood a couple of weeks ago that she'd thought she couldn't play > I've Just Seen a Face at first too, but then she'd done it...and I thought, > well, what the heck, one more clearly futile attempt... > > EUREKA! > > And so, the deep dark mysterious secret to successfully playing the song on > MY little CD player turned out to be...holding down the "Back" button. > > (C'mon, Benay, you've been trying to do this simple little thing for years > and you never tried holding down the "Back" button before?) > > Apparently not. > > So I'm an idiot. But a happy idiot...who is now listening, at home, to I've > Just Seen a Face as sung by the one and only Lucy Kaplansky. :-) > > Benay ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 07:33:19 +0100 From: "donald.anderson" Subject: [lucy-list] Hidden Track For those who haven't been able to access "The Hidden Track" on Flesh & Bone try this load cd , press pause , press << , wind back to 3mins 42 secs , press pause , listen to "I've Just Seen A Face" Donald , who's going to see Paul Simon on Thursday in Edinburgh Castle !! ------------------------------ End of lucy-list-digest V4 #165 ******************************* This has been a posting from the Lucy Kaplansky mail list digest To unsubscribe send mail to Majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe lucy-list-digest" in the body of the message