From: owner-lucy-list-digest@smoe.org (lucy-list-digest) To: lucy-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: lucy-list-digest V4 #38 Reply-To: lucy-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-lucy-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-lucy-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk lucy-list-digest Wednesday, February 13 2002 Volume 04 : Number 038 In this issue: [lucy-list] "The Lucy Kaplansky Story" [lucy-list] Live album title [lucy-list] lucy on stage Re: [lucy-list] Live album title Re: [lucy-list] "The Lucy Kaplansky Story" [lucy-list] lucy on stage =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_[lucy-list]_lucy_on_stage?= [lucy-list] Lucy and the Lucy list.... [lucy-list] lucy's stage presence RE: [lucy-list] lucy on stage ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 12:39:15 -0500 From: Donna Myers Subject: [lucy-list] "The Lucy Kaplansky Story" I have to agree with Rick in reference to Julia Louis Dreyfuss as Lucy in "The Lucy Kaplansky Story". I saw Seinfeld the other night and Elaine walked into the diner wearing jeans, white t-shirt and black leather jacket. She looked just like Lucy!! As for Lucy being uncomfortable on stage and looking at her shoes....I agree with Kristen about not taking the spotlight away from Jennifer. As Kristen stated...Lucy does this to play down her appearance and Jennifer does the same. In my opinion it is why Lucy is so great at harmonizing...she knows exactly when to combine her voice with others without taking the spotlight(very hard to do with her beautiful voice!!) Matt wrote: << I sincerely hope she records it and makes it available.>> Referring to Lucy's new song, "Land of the Living". I wish she would too Matt!!! I can't get this song out of my head. I am constantly singing it. Solution: "Lucy Live". With all these discussions lately about Lucy covers and piano tunes it proves to be the perfect solution. She can record, "Land of the Living" & "More Than This". Timothy suggested the title, "The Doctor Is In"...which I love! The cd title I thought of is "Group Therapy". Donna ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 12:58:31 -0500 From: Tom Neff Subject: [lucy-list] Live album title "Still Live" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 13:07:17 EST From: Pfleary@aol.com Subject: [lucy-list] lucy on stage Rick asked: > Question, longtime fans: Is > Lucy uncomfortable on stage, at least at first? She seemed very reluctant > there in the beginning. She warmed up later on, but at first there was a > lot of staring at shoes. Funny, I never consciously noticed this, but as I read through Rick's question, I could easily visualize Lucy having done this when I have seen her. I have also noticed that she is paying a lot of attention to her sound when she first comes out. Avoiding looking at the audience certainly would allow for better listening. Perhaps her first concern is with making sure she sounds right, is playing well, and then she seeks to establish rapport with her audience. Also, was this her first time in the venue where you saw her? I imagine it's hard to go somewhere new for the first time. I have seen her play a venue here in Sebastopol, CA a couple of times and she seemed more comfortable (but not quite as good)! the second time I saw her here. The first time she was here, she came out, was tuning her guitar and looking at her shoes. When she looked up and out at the audience and I couldn't help but blurt out a great big "Welcome" from where I sat in the back. She smiled a huge smile and replied, "No welcome to all of you." She noticed people were singing along with her songs and became even more at ease, saying how flattered she was that we knew her stuff. I think it's a two way street. Artists need to know that their audience knows them and/or appreciates them. It's a huge risk getting up on a stage to perform, and all the experience and familiarity with doing it, might make it easier, but it doesn't necessarily guarantee a receptive audience. Peter (Who wonders if he qualifies as a long time fan. What are the criteria?) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 13:05:40 -0500 From: Kathleen Sands Boehmer Subject: Re: [lucy-list] Live album title Ethel and Fred present the "I Love Lucy Live" tour! At 12:58 PM 2/12/02 -0500, Tom Neff wrote: >"Still Live" You can't test courage cautiously. ~Annie Dillard~ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 12:09:12 -0600 From: steffen@storm.simpson.edu (Brian Steffen) Subject: Re: [lucy-list] "The Lucy Kaplansky Story" >I have to agree with Rick in reference to Julia Louis Dreyfuss as Lucy >in "The Lucy Kaplansky Story". I saw Seinfeld the other night and >Elaine walked into the diner wearing jeans, white t-shirt and black >leather jacket. She looked just like Lucy!! Does this mean we may see Lucy doing Olympic ski-jumping, as JLD is "doing" in a promo for her upcoming new sitcom? ____________________________________________________________________ Brian Steffen Simpson College Indianola, IA 50125 Voice: 515.961.1650 FAX: 515.961.1350 Web: http://www.simpson.edu/~steffen "No nation can preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare." -James Madison ____________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 13:41:13 EST From: Sdgold60@aol.com Subject: [lucy-list] lucy on stage this is what i noticed- Lucy will stay back and look at her feet and stand with her hands crossed while she awaits her harmony part (what else can she do when she is not singing with John Richard Jennifer etc. she will stand to the side or back and when its her part. she will tilt her head and hold one ear closed or stand with her hands crossed and will sing. NOW with bryan ferry or in the studio i dont know what happens Lucy solo or with her band.. she hits the stage and sings the first three songs with out break and then talks..she seem nervous in the beginning entering the stage and after she warms up to the stage, lights her space the crowd she is fine and calms down.. she can get excited like when she plays with friends or her band. she will tell the audience she is having a great time. and will be smiling through the sad songs. i have seen her relaxed in sound check and at festivals when she is not the center of the attention. she seems to have fun at sound checks and is loose and sings as beautifully as you hear on stage later. just my observations... sharon There's a gypsy down on Bleecker Street I went in to see her as a kind of joke And she lit a candle for my love luck And eighteen bucks went up in smoke ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 13:24:29 -0600 (CST) From: Matt Pankratz Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_[lucy-list]_lucy_on_stage?= > Rick asked: >> Question, longtime fans: Is >> Lucy uncomfortable on stage, at least at first? She seemed very >> reluctant there in the beginning. She warmed up later on, but at first >> there was a lot of staring at shoes. My wife commented on this at the Lucy/Jennifer show on Sunday. I think it's part of her "public gaging". It's a feeling-out process. To see what stories she can tell, what kind of mood(s) the audience is in, and what the overall tone of the performance might be. I am taken with her willing-ness to communicate with her audiences, through the music and beyond. She always remains in the moment of the song and the performance. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 14:30:43 EST From: NCdoc8@aol.com Subject: [lucy-list] Lucy and the Lucy list.... I have enjoyed the discussion re:whether she is shy or just taking things in or not trying to upstage whoever.... As a former therapist, Lucy would probably love this analysis of her behavior. I wonder if she subscribes to "the Lucy list" and if she does I wonder if she ever considers getting involved in the dialogue. I know I resisted for awile but have found it more difficult recently. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 15:33:44 -0500 (EST) From: "Elizabeth (Libby) Wiebel" Subject: [lucy-list] lucy's stage presence Just a couple comments... my own POV... I think I've seen Lucy over 10 times in the last year... and her stage presence has grown/changed each time. Hmmmm... kinda like the evolution of albums... growing, growing... better & better... :) Sharong is right on... typically it's 2 or 3 songs w/o any dialogue... and then she'll say something... and start to get chatty w/ the audience. I personally think this does a couple of things... 1 - gets her warmed up to the crowd, 2 - gets her warmed up to the venue... and notice what kind of issues might be going on w/ sound, lights, etc now that people are in the room (there are a few things that one can't gauge during soundcheck... and I've seen her before, having these "issues" rectified during those first 2/3 numbers), 3 - lets the audience get a good taste of her MUSIC... what she's really there to to before she lets people in on who this person is who's there to sing/perform. Yeah, the talking and stage banter, etc, is part of the performance... but I think that for Lucy, it's definitely secondary to the music. As far as the bit about singing backup... the looking down, etc... You have to be totally focused on the lead in order to add backup that **enhances** rather than detracts. This is the case in all styles of music... I learned that lesson as a pianist in several jazz ensembles. Lucy, dominatrix of folk harmony (DFH??), has PROVEN that she is the super-star in this area. :) I mean... whose albums _hasn't_ she sung on... *grin* So... if I had to guess... I'd say that it's a concentration mechanism... concentrating on the lead... so as to really make their performance the best... When you're up there on that stage... lights, people, etc... even if you know something inside and out, it's easy to get distracted... and one moment lost could mean a missed entrance, opportunity, etc. One of the most fun shows I've been to was an instance of the Lucy-Gorka-Cheryl-Cliff show... And it was great... someone had the lead on each song (except for the few they designated as "group numbers")... The others were sitting behind... And then when someone felt that they had something to add to whatever the lead was doing, they just sorta inconspicuously came up to a mic... and joined in. It was GREAT. Everyone was soooo involved in each other's music... you rarely saw the ones who were _not_ doing lead looking into the audience... they kept their focus on the one they were following... taking cues from them on what was going to sound the best. The non-verbal communication onstage was just amazing... and the verbal communication... :) Well... if you've been to an LGCC-show... you know how much fun _that_ can be!! Anyway... enough rambling... Libby - -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Libby Wiebel | ewiebel@cs.wm.edu | http://www.cs.wm.edu/~ewiebel ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ there is a hope that's been expressed in you the hope of seven generations maybe more and this is the faith that they invest in you it's that you'll do one better than was done before inside you know, inside you understand inside you know what's yours to finally set right and i suggest, and i suggest to you and i suggest this is the best part of your life ~ susan werner ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 13:34:18 -0000 From: Eric B Milstein Subject: RE: [lucy-list] lucy on stage Good point Peter . I saw Lucy in a small venue in Davis, CA and thought that she was pretty comfortable with the audience. Of course, the audience practically sits on stage and the owner's Golden Retriever was wandering through the audience and on stage throughout the whole performance! Pretty mellow and a lot of artist-audience interaction. I have noticed in concert photos that some of you have posted that Lucy appears "uncomfortable" however. Thought it was just a photo-thang though. Eric - -----Original Message----- From: Pfleary@aol.com [SMTP:Pfleary@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 08:07 To: lucy-list@smoe.org Subject: [lucy-list] lucy on stage "Artists need to know that their audience knows them and/or appreciates them. It's a huge risk getting up on a stage to perform, and all the experience and familiarity with doing it, might make it easier, but it doesn't necessarily guarantee a receptive audience." Peter (Who wonders if he qualifies as a long time fan. What are the criteria?) ------------------------------ End of lucy-list-digest V4 #38 ****************************** This has been a posting from the Lucy Kaplansky mail list digest To unsubscribe send mail to Majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe lucy-list-digest" in the body of the message