From: owner-lucy-list-digest@smoe.org (lucy-list-digest) To: lucy-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: lucy-list-digest V3 #224 Reply-To: lucy-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-lucy-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-lucy-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk lucy-list-digest Tuesday, October 16 2001 Volume 03 : Number 224 In this issue: [lucy-list] ESD [lucy-list] ESD of the week? [lucy-list] ESD on the dissection table Re: [lucy-list] ESD on the dissection table [lucy-list] Susan Werner and Ellis Paul shows [lucy-list] Saturday Night ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 08:49:02 -0400 From: Roxylee Subject: [lucy-list] ESD I keep wondering about the intended meaning of the line "Every single day, takes a piece of you away." I don't know if it means that Lucy feels less and less respect, awe, or admiration for the singer she is writing about, or if she means the singer is losing a pice of herself every single day, due to her choices and attitudes, etc. What do you think it means? Roxy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 09:23:58 -0500 From: "Timothy Bruce" Subject: [lucy-list] ESD of the week? My, my, my! If that doesn't sound like a plea to start a "song of the week", then I don't know what would.... - -----Original Message----- From: owner-lucy-list@smoe.org [mailto:owner-lucy-list@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Roxylee Sent: Monday, October 15, 2001 7:49 AM To: lucy-list@smoe.org Subject: [lucy-list] ESD I keep wondering about the intended meaning of the line "Every single day, takes a piece of you away." I don't know if it means that Lucy feels less and less respect, awe, or admiration for the singer she is writing about, or if she means the singer is losing a pice of herself every single day, due to her choices and attitudes, etc. What do you think it means? Roxy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 10:09:13 -0500 From: "Timothy Bruce" Subject: [lucy-list] ESD on the dissection table Roxy wrote: >>>I keep wondering about the intended meaning of the line "Every single day, takes a piece of you away." <<< If the strange events of the 2000 Rocky Mountain Folks Festival hadn't come to light on this list, that song would STILL be an enigma to me. But after hearing the story of Nancy and Lucy on stage, it makes a whole lot of sense. A key to understanding this line is that Lucy was, and still is, a FAN of a lot of high-octane performers in the music biz. She sees them as bigger than life. Apparently Nancy remained in this catagory even as Lucy became more and more musically involved with her. I think it is safe to say that Lucy had Nancy Griffith "on a pedestal" for a long, long time. Things Fall Apart. That is certainly true for statues in the park. Wind, rain, blows from the swords of marauding horsemen, even pesky pigeons. There comes a time when one just can't keep up appearances any longer. It may be personal dissipation, or the elements, or even the departure of the creative energy behind the icon to another creative space. To me, the image of this song is of a fan watching the statue (their pop icon) break apart bit by bit. Every time they go back to the park and visit it, there is less and less there of its original greatness. There are very few in the music biz that escape this--Eric Clapton comes to mind, as do pop icons who die in their prime, like Jim Morrisson and Jimi Hendrix. Still, there is the attraction to build up an aura around oneself because it can aid one in the quality of one's live performances. But what an uncomfortable position to be in when the magic spell "breaks" and one finds oneself looking out into the faces in the first couple of rows who are silently glaring "I paid 35 bucks for this ticket and this is NOT what I expected!" It's what's behind the recurring nightmare of being caught naked in public and the fairy tale, "The Emperor's New Clothes". Lucy seems to be aware of the Taoist nature of the ride--first rise, then plateau and, finally, decline. She is after all a pretty smart cookie. So I think we should just pass it off as poetic license when the character in the song refuses to be counseled on this matter ("Could have told him to save his breath/cause I'm not listening"). Rock On Doc! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 11:21:29 -0400 From: Tom Neff Subject: Re: [lucy-list] ESD on the dissection table So far I've interpreted "takes a piece of you away" as meaning more that the music business grinds you down day after day, rather than that the narrator sees more of someone's faults every day on the road with them. The end result is seemingly the same - you fall apart bit by bit - but the difference is that in the first case, you really are falling apart, i.e. you were whole, then later you're all ground down and stuff, while in the second interpretation you were always busted up in advance - the biz isn't particularly changing you - but someone else is slowly seeing the truth. I don't know which way L&R meant it, but I think the first way is how it really works. - --On Monday, October 15, 2001 10:09 AM -0500 Timothy Bruce wrote: > If the strange events of the 2000 Rocky Mountain Folks Festival hadn't > come to light on this list, that song would STILL be an enigma to me. > But after hearing the story of Nancy and Lucy on stage, it makes a whole > lot of sense. > > A key to understanding this line is that Lucy was, and still is, a FAN of > a lot of high-octane performers in the music biz. She sees them as bigger > than life. Apparently Nancy remained in this catagory even as Lucy became > more and more musically involved with her. I think it is safe to say that > Lucy had Nancy Griffith "on a pedestal" for a long, long time. > > Things Fall Apart. That is certainly true for statues in the park. Wind, > rain, blows from the swords of marauding horsemen, even pesky pigeons. > There comes a time when one just can't keep up appearances any longer. It > may be personal dissipation, or the elements, or even the departure of the > creative energy behind the icon to another creative space. To me, the > image of this song is of a fan watching the statue (their pop icon) break > apart bit by bit. Every time they go back to the park and visit it, > there is less and less there of its original greatness. There are very > few in the music biz that escape this--Eric Clapton comes to mind, as do > pop icons who die in their prime, like Jim Morrisson and Jimi Hendrix. > ... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 11:52:28 -0500 From: "Kristen Myshrall" Subject: [lucy-list] Susan Werner and Ellis Paul shows Hey guys, I was wondering if anyone has seen Susan and Ellis together on their little tour together and happened to maybe record it? It was a fantastic show last week and the producer of our show is dying for a copy of them singing Way over Yonder in the minor key (i think that's what it's called) and Knockin on Heavens Door together. He's been great to me since i moved here and I'd love to find those for him ...so if you see a copy of two of them singing those songs could you send a note my way? Thanks! KristenGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 15:39:48 -0400 From: Jeff Bernstein Subject: [lucy-list] Saturday Night This Saturday night 10/20 Pete Fornatale, long time New York DJ and current host of Mixed Bag on Saturday's from 5-8PM on WFUV 90.7FM in New York, will be broadcasting live from the Museum of Television and Radio's seventh annual Radio Festival. There may still be some tickets available, but for those who can't be there WFUV streams on the web at . No, Lucy won't be performing, but fellow lister Martha Trachtenberg will, along with a number of others. Martha is terrific, so check it out. Jeff ------------------------------ End of lucy-list-digest V3 #224 ******************************* This has been a posting from the Lucy Kaplansky mail list digest To unsubscribe send mail to Majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe lucy-list-digest" in the body of the message