From: owner-lucy-list-digest@smoe.org (lucy-list-digest) To: lucy-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: lucy-list-digest V3 #192 Reply-To: lucy-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-lucy-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-lucy-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk lucy-list-digest Thursday, September 13 2001 Volume 03 : Number 192 In this issue: [lucy-list] New York etc. [lucy-list] 5 in the morning [lucy-list] Lucy and Rick are okay [lucy-list] what I've had on repeat Re: [lucy-list] Lucy and Rick are okay [lucy-list] ESD [lucy-list] Tonight's show is cancelled Re: [lucy-list] New York etc. [lucy-list] What is right and what is not right with the world Re: [lucy-list] What is right and what is not right with the world [lucy-list] New York City's Animals Desperately Need Your Voice/9-12-01 (from renee) [lucy-list] to process or not to process [lucy-list] 525,600 minutes [lucy-list] life in my hands ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 09:21:52 -0700 From: "Walter from Glasgow" Subject: [lucy-list] New York etc. Our sense of shock knows no bounds. Our words of comfort are sadly inadequate to offer solace to all our American friends. Please know that all of us here in Europe send our heart felt support, and stand shoulder to shoulder with you. I'm sorry, I'm at a loss for words, Walter in Glasgow ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 04:30:16 -0400 (EDT) From: "Elizabeth (Libby) Wiebel" Subject: [lucy-list] 5 in the morning well it's nearly 5 in the morning.... i'm not lying in bed... but i'm surely listening to the thunderstorms in my head.... you'd think that two sleeping pills would have knocked me out for the evening, but not so... just writing here because i'm not really sure what else to do. the rest of the house is asleep... even the cat... there are no lights on up and down my little street of townhouses... everyone seems to have gone to bed... whether bed implies sleep, i do not know. i refuse to turn on the television again... can't see that all again. i may have to go take a walk... or bake... or clean the bathroom... or something to work off the jitters... would this all be easier if there was an obvious reason???? probably not. just the other night i was chatting between songs while a friend and i performed at a coffeehouse in town... she was tuning her guitar so i took some time... we were about to sing "1000 candles, 1000 cranes"... for those of you who don't know, it's a song about years aftermath of wwII... on "small potatoes" second album... how prejudices and anger can be harbored for years... the aftermath of war. i said that night that many of us gen-x'ers are criticized... i don't know if that was the right word... but anyway criticized for not being able to understand the true violence between nations, the kind expressed in time of war... i went on about how whether that was true or not... the song had hit me deeply... and i felt could cross generational boundaries... well gen-x... this may be our first "real" taste of it... libby, wishing all her dc friends and coworkers were accounted for... - -- - --------------------------------- Libby Wiebel | ewiebel@cs.wm.edu http://www.cs.wm.edu/~ewiebel - ----------------------------------------------------- "I don't want to get to the end of my life and find that I just lived the length of it. I want to have lived the width of it as well." ~ Diane Ackerman - ----------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 09:09:05 EDT From: SteadyOnDC@aol.com Subject: [lucy-list] Lucy and Rick are okay I hope EVERYONE on this list is "okay".....so many New Yorkers and Bostonians, etc. :'( Lucy and Rick are together and are okay. Just wanted to pass that on.... - -Denise ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 09:21:37 EDT From: Fantine729@aol.com Subject: [lucy-list] what I've had on repeat This is something I've sent in to several other lists I'm on...I apologize for anyone who keeps getting it as a crossposting, but by the same token, people keep asking me to post it to x, y, or z, asking me if it's okay for them to post it to u, v, w, or pass it along to family or friends. I have been simply (but powerfully) overwhelmed by the responses flooding my inbox. So, the answer is yes....please share this, pass it along as you see fit. They are words that some are gaining comfort from, and I offer them here. My prayers to everyone still waiting, still looking for family members and friends. I found my last two friends late last night, safe and sound, though they had had dinner at the towers Monday night before heading home to VA. ~ Sheila Subj: words of wisdom Date: 9/12/2001 1:06:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time From: Fantine729 To: jangle-poets@smoe.org I suddenly found myself humming this softly to myself this evening, and thought that this is a song we need today and in the days, weeks and months to come. It is bringing me an astounding amount of solace, even as I have two TVs running concurrent coverage. I hope that no one here lost loved ones today, though I know none of us is unaffected (my mother, who is a federal law-enforcement agent, has actually been sent down to the city to work security). Peace (I pray), Sheila Can't Kill Hope with a Gun by Pete and Maura Kennedy Far beyond the flood of time Past the darkness of despair There's a dove and a rainbow sign We can find our pathway there Now we've seen the violent way And it's failed us everywhere But there's a place where the wise men say We can go, if we only dare Oh you can't slow down a lightning strike And you can't stop the rising sun No you can't hold back the hands of time And you can't kill hope with a gun There's an army on the road Marching toward a better day Trading hate for a lighter load In the end it's the only way Though we face a rocky slope There's a feeling in the air Faith can carve a stone of hope From a mountain of despair Oh you can't slow down a lightning strike And you can't stop the rising sun No you can't hold back the hands of time And you can't kill hope with a gun The past is a memory And the future's far away We've seen our destiny And it's down the bloodless way Every time we stand up tall Knowing that we're not alone We can face a great stone wall And bring it down with the strength of hope Amen. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 11:25:45 -0400 (EDT) From: "Elizabeth (Libby) Wiebel" Subject: Re: [lucy-list] Lucy and Rick are okay On Wed, 12 Sep 2001 SteadyOnDC@aol.com wrote: > Lucy and Rick are together and are okay. Just wanted to pass that on.... > > -Denise Not only are they OK... but... according to the people in Charlottesville, they are still trying to find a way to get down to VA for a concert tonight. Unbelievable. Continued prayers and hope to all... Libby - -- - --------------------------------- Libby Wiebel | ewiebel@cs.wm.edu http://www.cs.wm.edu/~ewiebel - ----------------------------------------------------- "I don't want to get to the end of my life and find that I just lived the length of it. I want to have lived the width of it as well." ~ Diane Ackerman - ----------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 11:35:33 EDT From: Pfleary@aol.com Subject: [lucy-list] ESD dave wrote: >>>>it was Lucy's Release Day, and making an effort to buy the CD at the first opportunity, as I had always intended, was at least some small gesture of defiance. I also saw it as a gesture of survivance and normality in the face of extreme insanity. I woke up to a phone call telling me about this tragedy, and with the exception of going out to buy ESD, spent all my waking hours in front of CNN. It was a bright, clear moment in an otherwise very dark and surreal day. Peter ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 13:09:25 -0400 From: Phil Kalina <76106.566@compuserve.com> Subject: [lucy-list] Tonight's show is cancelled I'd been considering driving to Charlottesville for tonight's concert, but I talked with the Starr Hill Music Hall several times today and they just told me it's canceled. My best to everyone in NYC (my former home town) and metro-DC. And, oh yes, l'shana tova, happy new year! May next year bring peace. Phil Kalina Reston, Virginia ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 15:14:46 EDT From: IFBUCHAN@aol.com Subject: Re: [lucy-list] New York etc. I could'nt have said it better myself. Deepest sympathy Ian ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 15:49:29 -0500 From: "Timothy Bruce" Subject: [lucy-list] What is right and what is not right with the world I am heartened to hear that none of us corespondents on the list have been physically injured. Mentally jarred perhaps, but still capable of "keeping-on" once we regain our equilibrium. Just a quick note: It's been awfully quiet on this list since yesterdays tragedy. I'm sure we can all agree on TWO things, however. What happened in the air yesterday (the targeting of unarmed civilians by combatants) was an example of what is WRONG with our world today.....but the public release of Lucy's new work and the support our "community" is providing its launch is an example of what is RIGHT with our world today. Keep that in perspective and maintain your faith in a loving, and beloved world where higher consciousness and the compassionate application of intelligence and "will" prevail. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 21:56:11 +0100 From: "donald.anderson" Subject: Re: [lucy-list] What is right and what is not right with the world Well said Tim , We all have something powerful together in our admiration for Lucy's wonderful music , which nobody can destroy Let's all be strong and keep it together , unfortunately there's nothing any of us can do or say that's going to make it better so ... let's unite in getting back to supporting the Doc's new release , and keep the wonderful level of communication going through these desperately sad times. Donald - ----- Original Message ----- From: Timothy Bruce To: Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:49 PM Subject: [lucy-list] What is right and what is not right with the world > I am heartened to hear that none of us corespondents on the list have been > physically injured. Mentally jarred perhaps, but still capable of > "keeping-on" once we regain our equilibrium. > > Just a quick note: It's been awfully quiet on this list since yesterdays > tragedy. I'm sure we can all agree on TWO things, however. What happened > in the air yesterday (the targeting of unarmed civilians by combatants) was > an example of what is WRONG with our world today.....but the public release > of Lucy's new work and the support our "community" is providing its launch > is an example of what is RIGHT with our world today. Keep that in > perspective and maintain your faith in a loving, and beloved world where > higher consciousness and the compassionate application of intelligence and > "will" prevail. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 18:57:06 -0400 From: "Batgirl of the Night" Subject: [lucy-list] New York City's Animals Desperately Need Your Voice/9-12-01 (from renee) o all of my friends out there, please take a few minutes to read this. I am in no way trying to minimize the fact that we are still in the process of rescuing possible survivors from the wreckage(I have a couple of people I am still waiting to hear from so I will know they are ok) This is unfortunately just one more tragic result of yesterday's disaster and I urge you read this and help if you can. I, like many of you, feel very helpless and wish I could do more for the people that are still trapped, but at this point they do not want volunteers, only 'trained professionals and technicians' on the scene. So we are all left with this aching, this void in our hearts, and complete sense of shock and terror. So, please find it in your hearts to help me attempt to urge Guiliani to *try* to save the abandoned animals that were left behind. Love & Peace To All, Renee From:veganvirago@home.com (Susan Gordon) Taken from PETA, please pass along....... Obviously our hearts go out to every human being affected by the tragedy at theWorld Trade Center. This terrible tragedy has serious repercussions for animals,too. Due to the tremendous loss of human lives, there will undoubtedly be many animals left orphaned. Other animals are trapped in buildings that have been evacuated and to which people have learned they are unable to return. PETA's headquarters is receiving calls from desperate New York City residents whose companion animals are trapped inside now vacated apartments, some so close to the World Trade Center that the animals inside can only be highly traumatized by the explosions, the sirens, the noise, the shaking ground, the smoke, and now the unexplained absence of their families. We know of at least one 13-floor building, 120 Greenwich Street, practically across the street from the World Trade Center, where more than 20 dogs and an undetermined number of other companion animals are locked inside apartments without food or water or comfort. These animals need your immediate help. Mayor Giuliani has a poor record when it comes to animals. In 1998 he refused to allow desperate New Yorkers whose apartment buildingms scaffolding collapsed, the opportunity to tend to or rescue their beloved animals for more than five days,leaving animals to become dehydrated and starving. Please urge Mayor Giuliani to set up a task force to locate and rescue animals in need. To many of this disaster's victims and their families, these beloved animals are members of the family and would be a great source of comfort. PETA and other animal protection groups are willing to send trained rescuers into the buildings to take the animals out, if given the chance.We will sign waivers of liability in the event of any injury or death.United Animal Nations(UAN.org), can offer assistance with mobilizing volunteers and rescuing and caring for abandoned animals. Mayor Giuliani's address is: Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani City Hall New York, NY 10007 Tel.: 212-788-9600 Fax: 212-788-7476 E-Mail: http://www.nyc.gov/html/mail/html/mayor.html If you have a difficult time getting through to Mayor Giuliani due to phone line trouble, please don't give up; keep trying. ======================================== Friends, Fellow Americans and Animal Lovers: We are all reeling in shock from the unspeakable horror of the cowardly terrorist attack on our nation. As we deeply mourn the loss of so many lives, grieve the end of our collective innocence and reflect on our sense of shaken security, let us take a moment to remember the cherished animals of those lost in the attack. The little ones who lived with the victims of this despicable act of terrorism will wait patiently, in countless homes and apartments, for those they love, but who will never return.As we send our caring thoughts to the victim's families so devastated by this national tragedy, let us remember the loyal animals whose lives were also changed forever. Let us hope that those who lived with a single victim will not be forgotten or lost in the chaos, but will be moved into homes where they will receive the love so violently torn from them - as their dear, late human companions would have wished. In solidarity, Susan Duncan Pet Loss Research Center /\v/\ "Your eyes make me humble, I fall down at your feet. Pick me up if I stumble Over words I can not speak. I can't speak..."-Ellis Paul-'Words' _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 18:58:09 EDT From: Sdgold60@aol.com Subject: [lucy-list] to process or not to process thanks timothy... as we are talking about the DOC.. the DOC of psychology.. i think that in the face of the disaster to the city .. lucy kaplansky calls home.. the JOHN platt interview sunday .. included a discussion about the years lK has been in NY from chicago.. and how SHE considers NY her home.. so respecting peoples needs to talk about the tragedy of the WTC... any one who needs.. feel free to talk about the disaster.. but lets not take away from a new record.. i think that the doc would say.. process if you must.. and healing comes through music.. dave.. you are my man.. you did what i would have done... grieved appropriately and still..you bought the record... i could not go to my favorite record haunts.. but as soon as i can i will.. .. there is nothing wrong with carrying on with ordinary tasks.. so .. i would be lying if i say i hadnt thought about the nanci griffith tickets we all have fo friday night.. and what will happen...how will i get to manhattan.. FUV has added Every single day.. to the favorite cds.. there are layers and layers to talk about.. men with voices.. men with guitars and some of the best songwriting that i have heard.. this cd.. is one my top 10 list for the year... kristen .. i had the same response.. when i got mine.. i started it at 11pm and went to sleep at 3.. i was wired wiht ESD its one hellava record... presonally.. buddy miller.. gorka... shindell.. who has the pinup voice.. sharonG ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 21:10:55 -0400 (EDT) From: "Elizabeth (Libby) Wiebel" Subject: [lucy-list] 525,600 minutes My younger sister sent a message out tonight that just brought tears to my eyes... I ought to stop thinking of her as the "baby" sister... because something like this can't possibly have come from the little girl I used to fight for the purple popsicles with... She was one of the many who knew of my DC connections and frequent trips into the city to work... and one of the first who called/emailed... thanks to her and all of you who have done the same. I am OK and praying that many others I have not yet heard from are OK as well... In any case, I hope my wise little sister doesn't mind that I'm sharing this with you... and I hope you don't mind as it doesn't really have much music content at all. It just hit me particularly hard... as has much of the news of late... and you all on these lists are like a lifeline for me right now... for which I'm very appreciative. Love and light, Libby - -- - --------------------------------- Libby Wiebel | ewiebel@cs.wm.edu http://www.cs.wm.edu/~ewiebel - ----------------------------------------------------- "I don't want to get to the end of my life and find that I just lived the length of it. I want to have lived the width of it as well." ~ Diane Ackerman - ----------------------------------------------------- - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 16:49:20 -0500 From: Karen Subject: 525,600 minutes Hello all. I hope this email finds you all safe and well. As I sit in my office and attempt to focus my mind and energy on seemingly menial things today, my thoughts continue to drift. I'm listening to the soundtrack to Rent right now, finding more meaning in the words than ever before. I guess that's what inspired this email ... that, and my desperate need to try to make sense of life today. I think that's kind of a universal need right now ... actually, probably always. Anyway, I woke up crying this morning. (I know ... some of you must be shocked :-) !!) As I'm sure it did for so many people, reality sunk in today. Even before I got out of bed, I knew it would be a difficult day ... maybe even moreso than yesterday. Despite the tragedy and the shock and the extreme feeling of helplessness, I think the thing that was most disheartening for me was that I had to face the reality that evil not only exists, but it affects me. Kind of basic, I guess, but really scary. Yeah, I knew this before but I don't think I've ever really felt it before. So, I promised myself, as I cried to my teddy bear (yes I still sleep with Teddy) this morning that I would not allow myself to be afraid. I would face the world without any fear. But the more I thought about this, the more I realized that this was ridiculous. I have a lot of fears in my life. A lot. And many of them are what drive me. I had never admitted this before this morning. Yes, yes, Dr. Magno -- I finally get it (for those of you non-Loras-folk, Dr. Magno teaches Eastern Philosphy, a class in which I challenged EVERYTHING, including the concept that fear is a prime motive). Anyway ... I've spent the majority of the day thinking about what I fear most. I fear that the people that mean most in my life don't know how much I really, really, really love them. I fear that I've misrepresnted myself to others. I fear that I get preoccupied with pettiness. I fear that I will waste even one of the 525,600 minutes given to me each year doing something I'm not proud of. I fear that I've hurt others. I fear that I'll overlook the beauty in something. I fear that I've forgotten to thank someone for their kindness. I fear that I'll miss an opportunity to help someone. I fear that at night I'll look back on my day and see that I didn't give enough or love enough. And the list goes on. Since I can't make any sense out of what is happening in the world, I'm going to focus on this for now. Still seems small in comparison to the world's needs, but it is something I can do -- right here from itty-bitty Ripon, Wisconsin. So damnit, I will let fear drive me. Actually, I think I'll let it be my daily motive. Not the fear of evil ... but the fear that I didn't do my share to counter it. Now, the big question ... why am I telling you all this? I guess I don't really know for sure. Maybe it's because you are amonst those that I fear don't know how important you are in my life. Maybe it's because you've heard so many other "Deep and Incredibly Random Thoughts from Karen" that I thought you'd like the latest. Maybe it's because somehow admitting my fears makes them more real. Maybe it's because I'm feeling the need to put a positive turn on this week. Maybe it's because I expect you all to hold me to this. Please know that I love and miss you all. I think of you much more often than I write or call or visit. I hope you and your loved ones are okay. God bless. Much love, Karen ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 20:56:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Deb Woodell Subject: [lucy-list] life in my hands Hey, folks, on many of my lists, I had to get outside today and get away from all the news for a while, and do something life-affirming. I planted a peace garden, with white mums and my Buddha statue. It's a place where I can reflect on all the tragedy and sadness, but ultimately it will bring life back into my spirit. While out in the yard, I found a praying mantis. I took it in my hands and, together, we, well, you know.... Take care all, Deb __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? 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