From: owner-lucy-list-digest@smoe.org (lucy-list-digest) To: lucy-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: lucy-list-digest V2 #44 Reply-To: lucy-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-lucy-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-lucy-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk lucy-list-digest Monday, February 21 2000 Volume 02 : Number 044 In this issue: [lucy-list] duets Re: [lucy-list] duets [lucy-list] One of the partners in Cry.... [lucy-list] susan werner. [lucy-list] soho to noho and RE: [lucy-list] susan werner. Re: [lucy-list] susan werner. RE: [lucy-list] susan werner. Re: [lucy-list] susan werner. [lucy-list] i beleive in susan werner [lucy-list] Re: influential internet Re: [lucy-list] duets Re: [lucy-list] i beleive in susan werner RE: [lucy-list] i beleive in susan werner ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 10:43:00 +0100 From: Katrin.Uhl@t-online.de (Katrin Uhl) Subject: [lucy-list] duets happy Sunday everyone, I had myself a Suzanne Vega night last night and started wondering if Lucy and her ever recorded anything together? I'm assuming they must have been on the same stage together at some point in their earlier careers since they were part of the same music scene (or am I totally off here?). Right now I'm listening to Darryl Purpose's Travelers' Code - when I ordered that I had no idea that Lucy is doing harmony, well a bit more than just harmony I'd say, on one of the songs (Ring on my hand). What a great surprise! Is there somewhere a list of all the songs Lucy has sung harmony / additional vocals on? That must be one long list and it would be really interesting, too. If there's none around (i.e. accessible to us) should we start one? I'd volunteer by putting together what's in my CD collection and then everybody else could chime in, would you guys be up for that? Katrin ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 09:13:32 EST From: Rongrittz@aol.com Subject: Re: [lucy-list] duets << I had myself a Suzanne Vega night last night and started wondering if Lucy and her ever recorded anything together? I'm assuming they must have been on the same stage together at some point in their earlier careers since they were part of the same music scene (or am I totally off here?). >> No, they started about the same time in Greenwich Village, but I don't know if they've ever recorded together. Ironically, the first time I ever heard Lucy sing was on an old Fast Folk compilation on which she sang Suzanne's "Calypso," which I believe she actually still performs from time to time. Lucy's actually got some great performances on those Fast Folk albums, including another song she occasionally does called "Old Factory Town" by a guy named Brian Rose, plus incredible duets with Shawn Colvin on Cliff Eberhardt's "Goodnight" and Judith Zweiman's "Heart on Ice" . . . an incredible harmonizing tour-de-force. She also does an early version of her own "You Just Need a Home" (when it was titled "Spotlight") and a solo take of Shawn's "Diamond in the Rough." That old stuff is a lot of fun to listen to, especially considering Lucy's growth as a performer and songwriter in the fifteen years since then. RG ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 10:20:27 -0500 From: "Jennifer L. Shanley" Subject: [lucy-list] One of the partners in Cry.... I know... I know... it's the Lucy list. BUT, I just wanted to say... if Richard Shindell is playing a show ANYWHERE near you... GO!! His concert in Rochester last night was just awesome! As is his new disc "somewhere near paterson" He opened the show with Wisteria (oh lovely lovely song...) and went on to play a bunch of others from the new CD, several from Reunion Hill, and a few from his earlier discs. Plus, Shades of Grey and the Ballad of Mary Magdalen. Richard closed with Calling the Moon. When I saw Cry3 it was mostly Dar and Lucy doing the talking... didn't realized that Richard was such a comedian! :-) His between-song stories are almost as good as the songs themselves. heheheheee! A great show all-in-all. GO SEE HIM! :-) ok. I'm done gushing now. :) hope everyone's having a good weekend. ~jen~ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 12:23:51 EST From: Shadyt2911@aol.com Subject: [lucy-list] susan werner. Save your money on this one I saw Susan Werner last night in Austin. I felt like I was at a comedy club, not one good song in the bunch. when she sat down at the piano she had her back to me. That was my cue to leave. first time and last time. i was talking with someone who said he got one of her CD's for 99 cents, even at that price it wasn't worth it. jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 10:20:57 PST From: "sharon g" Subject: [lucy-list] soho to noho and well on that long trip from NY to Mass, thru the valley of bad CT radio, i heard a version of "girls just want to have fun" and suddenly Ferrons voice talking those lyrics came into my head... i scared myself and needed to stop for more coffee that is my cover story for the day... Kris delmhorst should open for lucy the fiddle would add to her music as well sharonG ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 13:28:36 -0500 From: "Tom Neff" Subject: RE: [lucy-list] susan werner. Even though (or exactly because) I am not a Susan Werner megafan, I will immediately rise to her defense after a low blow like this. Susan has a great voice and works very hard. She works on what we might call the cabaret end of folk - an honorable place to be - and if you like that kind of thing, you were born to fall in love with Susan Werner. Even if that's not your cup of tea, she is a nice and talented person who deserves respect and support, not a snide dismissal. > -----Original Message----- > Save your money on this one I saw Susan Werner last night in > Austin. I felt like I was at a comedy club, not one good song in the > bunch. when she sat down at the piano she had her back to me. That was > my cue to leave. first time and last time. i was talking with someone > who said he got one of her CD's for 99 cents, even at that price it > wasn't worth it. > jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 13:38:58 EST From: Shadyt2911@aol.com Subject: Re: [lucy-list] susan werner. I tried with all my might to find some redeeming value from any of the songs performed last night and found none, not a snide remark!!. just a fact. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 12:11:42 -0800 From: "Susan Krauss" Subject: RE: [lucy-list] susan werner. Gotta disagree on this one Jimmy. I love Susan Werner. Yes she has some funny songs (as does Cheryl Wheeler and many others) but she also has some wonderful love songs and songs of regret and growth. I'm seeing her next week and can't wait. Susan mailto:susankrauss@earthlink.net AOL Buddy Name: susankr ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 17:42:03 EST From: Wblr4@aol.com Subject: Re: [lucy-list] susan werner. In a message dated 2/20/00 12:30:57 PM Central Standard Time, tneff@panix.com writes: << Even though (or exactly because) I am not a Susan Werner megafan, I will immediately rise to her defense after a low blow like this >> It is interesting with the internet how influential a poor performance can be in this day and age. That would be motivational to me even if I were playing before a small crowd. I have never seen Susan Werner and unless she were opening for someone I don't know that I would buy tickets based on what was said be it a bit unfair or not. wbe ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 15:36:55 PST From: "sharon g" Subject: [lucy-list] i beleive in susan werner as a member of the susan wernaer family, i can begin to tell ya of her redeeming qualities, susan is trained at Temple could have been juilliard and can play multiple instruments, susan "chose" folk or folk chose her, cuz she was" born a little too late" rather than jazz aka diana krall or opera, and she has preformed arias in PA and not the one i saw as part of the Downtown MEssiah susan werner is an important songwriter because of her topics she captures without abandon, the full range of human emotion from "Aint I lonely tonight" to being in love, losing love chosing happiness over misery (unrecorded) she is kind to women and writes about hte feeling and experiences of us. Time between Trains, like Bonzai. old mistake, bring round teh boat..much at all the st mary of regret, the last of good straight girls though men can relate to these she uses a variety of musical styles and many times seh takes a few listenings to get that her songs are multilevel and she is smart and funny but not potatoe or handihouse funny if you saw her YOU saw do re mi and hte stock exchange and you saw a young woman working hard -giving her all with a great voice and talent and if you can say she is not your taste, i say fine but not redeeming not a true statement.... susan werner has redeemed me more time than she can image a proud believer.....have i earned my PIN yet... SharonG bwt again i have been in my car too long with bad radio i heard lucy covering NAtural woman with a backgroup group that included susan - or susan with lucy backing her- those girls gutta do some aretha and SHOOP it up - like a girls group thing i also think they can have fun and show off their perspective gifts ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 19:17:57 -0500 From: "Tom Neff" Subject: [lucy-list] Re: influential internet Wblr4@aol.com wrote: > It is interesting with the internet how influential a poor > performance can be in this day and age. That would be > motivational to me even if I were playing before a small crowd. > I have never seen Susan Werner and unless she were opening > for someone I don't know that I would buy tickets based > on what was said be it a bit unfair or not. However, the Internet is influential in more than one way. For example, if you had heard about Susan Werner and you weren't sure whether she was worth your listening time, you could visit http://susanwerner.com and listen to sound clips from her albums, so you would know what she sounded like and could make a decision based on your own tastes rather than some disgruntled concertgoer's. Also, deciding whether to buy tickets based on "what was said" depends on where you draw the limits of "what was said." Here, for example, one person wrote in saying "don't waste your money, I thought I was at a comedy club" and two or three (or more by now) other people wrote in saying Susan was excellent. Which of these people's views "count" and which don't? Only the negative ones? Only the ones with an even number of characters in the title? It's hard to decide. That's why listening for yourself is the best solution, and why the Internet helps. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 22:29:23 -0500 (EST) From: stephenu@webtv.net (Stephen Underwood) Subject: Re: [lucy-list] duets - --WebTV-Mail-7147-3258 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Katrin, Go to this website and enter Kaplansky.It will tell you what other cd's Lucy has appeared on. www.allmusic.com Stephen - --WebTV-Mail-7147-3258 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from mailsorter-102-5.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.31) by storefull-171.iap.bryant.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 01:53:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by mailsorter-102-5.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) id CB9086C; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 01:53:36 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: stephenu@webtv.net Received: from chmls05.mediaone.net (ne.mediaone.net [24.128.1.70]) by mailsorter-102-5.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) with ESMTP id 377D424E for ; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 01:48:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from smoe.org (jane.smoe.org [24.30.216.55]) by chmls05.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id EAA28494; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 04:46:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) with SMTP id EAA29041; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 04:45:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.10); Sun, 20 Feb 2000 04:45:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) id EAA28985 for lucy-list-outgoing; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 04:44:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailout01.sul.t-online.de (mailout01.sul.t-online.de [194.25.134.80]) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-jane) with ESMTP id EAA28978 for ; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 04:44:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from fwd01.sul.t-online.de by mailout01.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 12MSuV-0002KC-01; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 10:44:15 +0100 Received: from oemcomputer (320036536300-0001@[62.158.83.111]) by fwd01.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 12MSuR-1vLE00C; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 10:44:11 +0100 From: Katrin.Uhl@t-online.de (Katrin Uhl) To: "Lucy-List" Subject: [lucy-list] duets Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 10:43:00 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Sender: 320036536300-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-lucy-list@smoe.org Reply-To: lucy-list@smoe.org Precedence: bulk happy Sunday everyone, I had myself a Suzanne Vega night last night and started wondering if Lucy and her ever recorded anything together? I'm assuming they must have been on the same stage together at some point in their earlier careers since they were part of the same music scene (or am I totally off here?). Right now I'm listening to Darryl Purpose's Travelers' Code - when I ordered that I had no idea that Lucy is doing harmony, well a bit more than just harmony I'd say, on one of the songs (Ring on my hand). What a great surprise! Is there somewhere a list of all the songs Lucy has sung harmony / additional vocals on? That must be one long list and it would be really interesting, too. If there's none around (i.e. accessible to us) should we start one? I'd volunteer by putting together what's in my CD collection and then everybody else could chime in, would you guys be up for that? Katrin - --WebTV-Mail-7147-3258-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 22:38:48 EST From: Shadyt2911@aol.com Subject: Re: [lucy-list] i beleive in susan werner maybe my review was a little rough, but when someone is put in the genre of folk music, my expectations are placed a little high. what i heard last night i would not call folk. comedy suits it better. i heard no song that even began to touch me in anyway. all the songs were goofy in nature I'm sure that they were meet to be written that way. i knew nothing of Susan when I saw her, I just wasn't expecting songs like that. I'm sure there are a lot of people who enjoy her music, the crowd was very large. it just so happens I'm not one of them, nor ever will be. jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 20:01:38 -0800 From: "Susan Krauss" Subject: RE: [lucy-list] i beleive in susan werner Jimmy - Did Susan sing "St. Mary's of Regret" or "Last of the Good Straight Girls?" susan mailto:susankrauss@earthlink.net AOL Buddy Name: susankr ------------------------------ End of lucy-list-digest V2 #44 ****************************** This has been a posting from the Lucy Kaplansky mail list digest To unsubscribe send mail to Majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe lucy-list-digest" in the body of the message